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  1. #1
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    This is kinda sad,kids of today have NO IDEA what "good" sound is.......

    Giving up my iPod for a Walkman

    When the Sony Walkman was launched, 30 years ago this week, it started a revolution in portable music. But how does it compare with its digital successors? The Magazine invited 13-year-old Scott Campbell to swap his iPod for a Walkman for a week.

    When I wore it walking down the street or going into shops, I got strange looks, a mixture of surprise and curiosity, that made me a little embarrassed.
    Im sorry but i wouldnt give a rats ass who thought what of what i had!!

    I prefer QUALITY and Walkmans (ANALOG) produce much better quality than these digital pieces of crap!!


    Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8117619.stm





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    If you want 'Quality Sound', you need valves,
    none of these modern chip or transistor driven things.

    Can I start a campagn to 'bring back 78s' ?
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    analog walkmans do not produce better quality than those 'digital pieces of crap'. technology developed quite tremendously. there's great difference.

    an altec lansing fx6021 'pc speaker set' had made me give up my 4 deck, 3 way full pioneer music set from 1991.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian-de-vie View Post
    If you want 'Quality Sound', you need valves,
    Agree 100%

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    While digital audio may be of lesser quality, the format in which that digital audio is stored, and how much compression is applied makes a large difference. My iPod has Rockbox on it, and every last track on it is in FLAC. Just remember that not all iPod users are MP3 users
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    Let me preface this by saying I'm hardly an audiophile. But honestly I could see the argument of a CD "discman" having better quality than MP3, particularly in the low end. I could also see you claiming that the output amps in an older walkman would be superior to most MP3 players (though admittedly, the ipod itself has pretty beefy output).

    But as far as cassettes being a superior technology, you're dreaming. Background noise is awful, dynamic range sucks - and guess what? All this stuff is only "fixed" with - you guessed it... filtering! It's like claiming the Cadillac 4-6-8 is superior to modern "displacement on demand", and it's only true in the minds of the deluded nostalgic.

    Now what would be really hilarious is if the kid took a step back another 10-15 years and started carrying a boombox/"ghettoblaster" on his shoulder!
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    That walkman is huge compared to the old one had. I would personally stick to my digital player.

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    To plug two pairs of headphones in to an iPod, you have to buy a special adapter.
    Special? A stereo Y splitter costs $5 at Radio Shack, $0.71 at Monoprice.

    Another useful feature is the power socket on the side, so that you can plug the Walkman into the wall when you're not on the move.
    An adapter to turn an AC outlet into a USB power source costs about $5. An adapter to turn a 12V DC outlet in a car into a USB power source costs about $5. Either one easily fits in a pocket. The iPod comes with a USB cable. Plug it into the wall when you're not on the move...
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    I'm certainly not an audiophile, I can't even tell the difference between a 128kbps mp3 & FLAC but to me digital sounds better.

    Size of the player to me is more important anyway, after using the new ipod shuffle for a few days most mp3 players feel huge so there's no way I'd use a walkman even if it did sound better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebit View Post
    I'm certainly not an audiophile, I can't even tell the difference between a 128kbps mp3 & FLAC but to me digital sounds better.

    Size of the player to me is more important anyway, after using the new ipod shuffle for a few days most mp3 players feel huge so there's no way I'd use a walkman even if it did sound better.
    Sometimes usability is key.

    Isn't there an expression about food along the lines of "presentation is 1/2 the taste"?

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    You're probably thinking of something that has been encoded 5 times, and been ripped off a youtube video. When you get the proper 320kbps tracks, which are the industy standard, they're completely flawless. Cassetes are muffled, and often have crackling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coduk View Post
    You're probably thinking of something that has been encoded 5 times, and been ripped off a youtube video. When you get the proper 320kbps tracks, which are the industy standard, they're completely flawless. Cassetes are muffled, and often have crackling.
    Well put. What kbps is iTunes music?

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    I remember the first walkman to come out. Wasnt really that useful because if you walked or ran, the music would skip. Later versions got a lot better, but would still skip if they got a good enough jolt, such as running down a flight of stairs or jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Well put. What kbps is iTunes music?

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    oh gosh, apparantly they are 128kbps or 256kbps (itunes plus), which is okaay, but not at its best. I dont like itunes anyway, friends who have had it cant copy or share the music. The protection is overkill.

    I've never used itunes, i just use cd rips which are normally 320kbps. Still, 256kbps would beat a cassete any day.
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    I love how he questions if his dad really ever thought this was credible technology. In 50 years people will be questioning Blu-Ray that way?

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