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    what about this idea?

    I heard it's a bad idea, but i want to know your opinion. Hosting from home. Server setup in garage. Free web hosting, just in case of server failure. Also using sub domains based on the hosting site (kind of like co.cc)

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    Free web hosting will for sure attract a lot of illegal activity so I don't know if that would be a good thing for you to host in your home for privacy and security reasons. And then there's the issue of obtaining a fast and reliable connection to the net which will not be cost effective at all when compared to renting out a dedicated server. So in my opinion, I don't think it is a good idea.

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    makes sense

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    Why are you looking at offering free hosting? :curious:

    Were you thinking of running ads, or do you just want to serve the Internet community?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Why are you looking at offering free hosting? :curious:

    Were you thinking of running ads, or do you just want to serve the Internet community?

    -mike
    Running ads and helping the internet community. Also as a learning experience. Obviously, it wouldn't have as many offers as paid hosting would. I just wanted to create an online service.

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    also because I got bored of hearing about new tech. I wanted to be apart of that. So i searched this topic up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geeksmart View Post
    Running ads and helping the internet community. Also as a learning experience. Obviously, it wouldn't have as many offers as paid hosting would. I just wanted to create an online service.
    Not bad then. Just be cautious about attracting spammers/phishers. You may want to limit outbound email in particular.

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    Run up too much electricity in your house.

    Expect a raid on your house.

    Why? People who sell drugs usually have a large amount of electricity in their homes to grow plants.

    An agent will not think your doing hosting at all.

    6A.M sometimes 5 when you should expect someone crushing through your doors home. Don't expect knocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peruviantalk View Post
    Run up too much electricity in your house.

    Expect a raid on your house.

    Why? People who sell drugs usually have a large amount of electricity in their homes to grow plants.

    An agent will not think your doing hosting at all.

    6A.M sometimes 5 when you should expect someone crushing through your doors home. Don't expect knocks.
    do you speak like that to your customers too? I understand it's not safe and I shouldn't do it. Didn't i already state i wasn't going to? No need to create something which might be taken wrong, most likely as a threat. Why would somebody want to steal from a free host anyways?
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    You didn't state that you weren't going to, only said it was a bad idea.

    That is my opinion ...you didn't ask for "proffessional opinion" just opinion. So I gave you one whether you like the facts or not I gave it to you raw.

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    I have always had an in home server for doing certain things even with a public domain. I have done such to provide software sneek peaks etc. Its hard to do with a home computer and manipulating firewalls and ports.

    Upstream is a problem, you know that it will affect your home internet if its on the same connection. Upstream is always capped lower by residential providers.

    As for the power thing. Thats kind of outlandish. Most households have a couple PC's running. Unless you have a whole bakers rack, nothing to worry about. And even then thats still outlandish. Some people have like outdoor lights and hot tubs and the police dont raid them.

    I personally dont think its a bad idea. Just some good management is needed. It would definitely be a good experience.

    As for what the others said. I would just completely disable the mail server functionality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan_tong View Post
    I have always had an in home server for doing certain things even with a public domain. I have done such to provide software sneek peaks etc. Its hard to do with a home computer and manipulating firewalls and ports.

    Upstream is a problem, you know that it will affect your home internet if its on the same connection. Upstream is always capped lower by residential providers.

    As for the power thing. Thats kind of outlandish. Most households have a couple PC's running. Unless you have a whole bakers rack, nothing to worry about. And even then thats still outlandish. Some people have like outdoor lights and hot tubs and the police dont raid them.

    I personally dont think its a bad idea. Just some good management is needed. It would definitely be a good experience.

    As for what the others said. I would just completely disable the mail server functionality.
    Thanks Bryan, I was also thinking about disabling mail server functionality for safety.

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    No - because people offer free hosting in stable hosting environments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstyn View Post
    I have always had an in home server for doing certain things even with a public domain. I have done such to provide software sneek peaks etc. Its hard to do with a home computer and manipulating firewalls and ports.

    Upstream is a problem, you know that it will affect your home internet if its on the same connection. Upstream is always capped lower by residential providers.

    As for the power thing. Thats kind of outlandish. Most households have a couple PC's running. Unless you have a whole bakers rack, nothing to worry about. And even then thats still outlandish. Some people have like outdoor lights and hot tubs and the police dont raid them.

    I personally dont think its a bad idea. Just some good management is needed. It would definitely be a good experience.

    As for what the others said. I would just completely disable the mail server functionality.
    So hosting websites would be fine?

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    I am not sure about the service providers in your country but over here most have prohibited home servers on their home internet connections. So you might check this whit your provider.

    And probably the power costs will me much higher than when you would have a server in a DC.

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    I ran free webhosting back in 99-2001. Im sure some things have changed, but overall it was a hellish buisness that was glamored up by the fact some companies were being boughtup by large ones for millions of dollars. I mean it was just insane when you see how much people were being paid.

    The biggest problem was pirated software/movies etc. This was a huge daily chore to find and remove. I hope now that torrents exist among other software sharing, its not a big deal like it was before, but you never know.

    As for spam and whatnot, no need to worry about that unless you allow scripts, which you shouldn't because your server will need to be reloaded on a daily basis.

    I dont know of something like google will allow you to place ads on your hosted sites, since they are not under your control, but at least when I ended, the CPM was around 10 cents(down from 2 dollars not that much earlier) This in turn was a huge killer. In fact half the ads turned out to be free by ad council because there were no paid ads availible.

    Lastly the cost. At least the prices have gone down, and I forget what the up speed is on cable, at least I dont know what it is for mine but I have 20mbps down. But you need the up to be high. I hosted the free servers from home, not a data center(paid hosting was here) and it was about $175 a month for SDSL(symmetrical same speed up and down). Im sure this has gone down, but you will pay a premium.
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    I'd have to say you're looking for trouble if you try and run a host from home - depending on where you are (as was stated by someone else), most residential ISP's forbid running servers on their connections, in addition to which, you're not getting a symmetrical connection, and your upload is capped very low. I'm on Rogers cable express and I'm pretty sure my upload is capped at about 768kbps - it's pretty terrible for running a host off of, and it'll kill your internet browsing.

    If you want to run a free host, you'll most likely need to get a business internet connection from your ISP or lease a reseller or VPS..which will require ads to pay off.

    If it's something you really want to do, you're best off getting a small reseller and working from that - there will be costs though and if you're doing free hosting, you have to front the costs and figure out some way of making revenue.

    There's a lot of free hosts out there already - and the whole concept of the kiddie/one night host that shuts down after they realize they can't afford to keep running it.

    It's not the easiest thing to get into, but if you're interested and put the effort..it can be rewarding and you might be successful.

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    Most US providers just allow you to use your upstream for what you wish until you hit the cap.

    They usually cap the upstream pretty low for this reason usually half of the downstream. I could understand that policy more in countries where connections are more commonly full duplex.
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