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    Where do the Big names stay?

    so this just hit me..

    big companies like Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, even say Facebook and twitter.. where do they park their domain names? do they godaddy or any of the others? and what will happen to them.

    ok, so chances are the first 3 have their own massive setups for hosting.. and their domain names?

    but i'm sure something like twitter (not a user btw) could've started out with a simple domain name and host when they started and didn't expect to blow up to these heights. so whats next, will they pull their domain name out of their server and into a personal one or what?

    i know i don't have any clear cut question, just some random question marks that i wanted to get out of my head. so if you manage to understand what i'm talking about, please feel free to respond, it would be much appreciated.

    thanks,
    Luigi

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    They don't park their domains. They use them. If you need to find who's their domains registrar just go to any whois website to check the domain registrar.
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    oops, that's what i wannted to know, not where they park but if they regiter their care for thier own or if they use a domain registrar.. but i did't think to check whois. ill do that now, thanks for that.

    coincidentally, if a company can be their own server and host, can one be thier own domain registrar? how's that done then?

    again, sorry if anybody here reads this and just shakes their heads

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    To save digging for the curious:

    microsoft.com: Tucows, Inc.
    google.com: MARKMONITOR INC.
    yahoo.com: MARKMONITOR INC.
    facebook.com: Tucows, Inc.
    twitter.com: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
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    Most big websites and companies do not run their own registrar.
    It's a big waste of time and money for most companies, even if their business is online.
    Only domain registrars should be registrars(although google is accredited, but my point still stands!), not search engines or microblogging services.

    So yeah they keep their domains with a registrar.
    In the past few years all the big IT companies and other big corporations in the US have moved their domains over to markmonitor or csc corporate domains.
    These registrars do not have open registration, and for markmonitor you have to spend at least 20,000$ on their services.
    Markmonitor specializes in brand protection and handling of brand domain names in many cctld's and is quite exclusive, so your normal everyday domainer will never have their domains there.

    Before markmonitor and csc the big corporation registrar was Network Solutions, but they seem to have become less popular, probably because markmonitor gives better services for corporations and brand owners in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coax View Post
    Before markmonitor and csc the big corporation registrar was Network Solutions, but they seem to have become less popular, probably because markmonitor gives better services for corporations and brand owners in general.
    Network Solutions pulled out of the brand protection market many years ago. Netsol's brand protection division was sold to Verisign in about 2002 (and became Verisign DBMS, DBMS = "Digital Brand Management Service"). It was sold again last year, this time to Melbourne IT (who also acquired a Swedish brand protection registrar, Domain Network).

    The brand protection market seems to be shared out fairly evenly between Markmonitor, CSC, Melbourne IT and Group NBT (trading as two separate companies, Ascio and Netnames).

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    microsoft.com: Tucows, Inc.
    google.com: MARKMONITOR INC.
    yahoo.com: MARKMONITOR INC.
    facebook.com: Tucows, Inc.
    twitter.com: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
    markmonitor? does yahoo owns that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo666 View Post
    markmonitor? does yahoo owns that?
    What a strange question! Why should Yahoo (or Google, or anyone) own Markmonitor just because they use their services? Do you own the shop from which you buy your bread and milk?

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    Very interesting. I think Yahoo and Google would be using their own register or partner company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hosting View Post
    Very interesting. I think Yahoo and Google would be using their own register or partner company.
    But they're not in the registrar business. Why should they set up a registrar company just to manage a few hundred domains for them?

    Multinationals use specialist registrar companies that are able to register their name (and any trading name) in all TLDs the world over including small obscure ccTLDs. This requires specialist knowledge. There are a dozen or so companies which have that specialist knowledge, and they, between them, look after all the big accounts (the big banks, the big car manufacturers, the big blue chip companies). There would be no point in any one company setting up their own specialist trademark protection registrar - it just wouldn't be very efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hosting View Post
    Very interesting. I think Yahoo and Google would be using their own register or partner company.
    Yes. Google is definitely a registrar and I think that Yahoo is too. Yahoo has a retail hosting part of its business. In Google's case, as of 01/July/2009 the domain count on its nameservers was:
    .com: 2786 - .net: 872 - .org: 927 - .biz: 100 - .info: 418 - .mobi: 30 - .asia: 38

    Yahoo.com has slightly more on its Yahoo.com nameservers:
    .com 1929864 - .net: 186159 - .org: 139110 - .biz: 41492 - .info: 21748 - .mobi: 433 - .asia: 899

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmccormac View Post
    Yes. Google is definitely a registrar and I think that Yahoo is too.
    Being a registrar for GTLDs does not help you when it comes to registering your own name under ccTLDs... and when you go for the full domain name management package with someone like Markmonitor it doesn't make sense to instruct them to register ccTLDs only because it's unlikely to make the package any cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo666 View Post
    markmonitor? does yahoo owns that?
    No. Yahoo partners up with MelbourneIT to offer domains: http://www.melbourneit.com.au/. So even Yahoo is basically a domain reseller :/
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    They can use any Data Center service and rent some dedicated server, or if they need many servers they'll need to build their own infrastructure.

    A company can't be its own registrar. Even Google that has Google Apps rely on resellers to register domains for ppl that wanna use the service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari View Post
    A company can't be its own registrar. Even Google that has Google Apps rely on resellers to register domains for ppl that wanna use the service.
    Sure they can:

    Domain Name: TUCOWS.COM
    Registrar: TUCOWS INC.

    However, Google (and probably Yahoo!) only have domain registrar status so they can get peeks at domain information for their search ranking purposes, not so they can sell domains.
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    ok I'll fix that, it is very unusual a company being its own registrar

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    Very interesting thread. I would of thought the big shots would have their own registrar, but I guess it does not make sense for them to spend extra money for this.

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