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    PR and position in SERPs

    I find that in Google search result pages, the PR of the website in the front position is lower than the below. What's the matter? What's the relationship between the position and PR? Or they are just two unallied things?
    Plz give me some advice. Thanks!

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    It happens because google pr is not updated frequently.The actual pr is not known to anyone apart from google.What we see is pr from toolbar which does not always tells the correct story.

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    Dispite you have high PR does not mean you will get higher SERP in Google.

    PR and Ranking are 2 totally different thing.

    Normally PR is just a measurement on how authority is your website and how many links you got from smaller PR sites.

    In many cases Higher PR ranking is even lower than PR2 or PR3 on Google First Page. Dont rely on PR for SERP Factor.

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    Thanks!
    is it true that they are 2 totally different things?
    there is no relationship between them?

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    it's two different things of course. PR is getting highly when you hvae high PR related site linking to you.

    Your ranking on search result page depends on keywords that people search for. If you have a relevant keywords shown on your page, you will rank high. (well assume that other site have similar PR as you)

    There is relationship between them though.Although, they are different things, the relationship is that the higher PR your site get, google will want to display your site on the most front page as possible for the same keywords.

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    PR and position in SERP

    Yes, PR is depend on the factor of PR of other sites you are backlined to and SERP is different. SERP is different in case of different keywords depend on your site relevancy.

    Quote Originally Posted by getwebhosting View Post
    it's two different things of course. PR is getting highly when you hvae high PR related site linking to you.

    Your ranking on search result page depends on keywords that people search for. If you have a relevant keywords shown on your page, you will rank high. (well assume that other site have similar PR as you)

    There is relationship between them though.Although, they are different things, the relationship is that the higher PR your site get, google will want to display your site on the most front page as possible for the same keywords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow09 View Post
    Thanks!
    is it true that they are 2 totally different things?
    there is no relationship between them?

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    PR is just one of the factors considered by Google when ranking sites. There are about 200 factors which have some significance...So high PR doesn't automatically translate into a high ranking. It just informs you on the link popularity of a specific web page.
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    PR is nothing more than window dressing. A pointless discussion topic that takes up a lot of peoples time. It is worthless. Has no value other than as a measure the stupidity factor that apply to the idiots who track its course to nowhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by getwebhosting View Post
    There is relationship between them though.Although, they are different things, the relationship is that the higher PR your site get, google will want to display your site on the most front page as possible for the same keywords.
    Not entirely correct. Its possible to get any site to rank higher using links and if you do get out ranked its not necessarily the PR that is the factor that is in play and sticking a spoke in your wheel. I believe that amongst many points Google gives consideration to, the length of time your links have been in place is particulary important. Its common sense, a mature link in the right environment is worth more than yesterdays news.

    Quote Originally Posted by seo Shruti View Post
    SERP is different in case of different keywords depend on your site relevancy.

    Relevancy is another. Its a good idea. No doubt about that but any link you can get works, as long as it comes with targeted anchor text.
    Last edited by rainchild; 06-27-2009 at 12:27 AM.

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    Reason for drop of PR is you don't have enough backward links to your website.You can Achieve this with Submission of your website into Good SERP websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow09 View Post
    I find that in Google search result pages, the PR of the website in the front position is lower than the below. What's the matter? What's the relationship between the position and PR? Or they are just two unallied things?
    Plz give me some advice. Thanks!
    Many says PR no value in SERP.. But according to my exp there is value.. and also Google says high ranked sites have priority in SERP

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    Higher PR doesn't mean Higher SERPS

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    To have good results in SERP, you should quality link building techniques.. With good result in SERP, your PR may increase. If your site have good PR that means Google give importance of your web page, so try to collect quality high PR back link then I think, you might increases your SERP as well PR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by inspiron View Post
    If your site have good PR that means Google give importance of your web page, so try to collect quality high PR back link then I think, you might increases your SERP as well PR!
    Wrong. PR does nothing for your serps.

    Quote Originally Posted by inspiron View Post
    To have good results in SERP, you should quality link building techniques
    What do you call a quality link? One that doesn't fall over the minute you look the other way? Or one from a site which applies strict editorial guidelines and does not link out to dodgy sites. Or do you check to see that they are not charging extra for featured links?

    Where does one find these "quality links"?

    Quote Originally Posted by inspiron View Post
    With good result in SERP, your PR may increase.
    Forget about PR. It's window dressing, nothing more.
    Last edited by rainchild; 07-06-2009 at 12:34 PM.

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    Good discussion here!

    Right! These 2 are different totally. A high PR would not guarantee you a better SERP! But generally speaking, a really high PR, saying 6 or more, would help you!

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    If it is an established site that has been around forever and its recognized by Google as an authority site, yes it might give you a boost in the serp's. But that's got nothing to do with its PR and secondly you just don't get links from authority sites. That's why they are authority sites and anyone trying to sell you a look alike is trying their best to take you to the cleaners and to get your domain trashed.

    Its that simple. Link building is a very simple exercise You have throw away links just as you have long term value links. You have established sites that have passed the test of time and you want links that will get the time to mature and grow. What is it that is so difficult to understand? Why does anyone still believe that there are short cuts and ways to fudge the system?

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    PR doesn't translate directly to a good position. It does have affect it though. It just not a one to one relationship.

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    if page rank increases the results also improve the results depend upon links how many backlinks you have will effect your site ranking.

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    You sell SEO services?


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    Not important SERP to get high pr

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    Dispite you have high PR does not mean you will get higher SERP in Google.

    PR and Ranking are 2 totally different thing.

    Normally PR is just a measurement on how authority is your website and how many links you got from smaller PR sites.

    In many cases Higher PR ranking is even lower than PR2 or PR3 on Google First Page. Dont rely on PR for SERP Factor.
    i agree with linux-engineer, no one know pr apart from google..
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    PR is a factor, but it's only ONE factor.

    PageRank is an approximate indicator of the site's overall importance in the "link sphere." It's based on the number of links to your site, the PR of the pages linking to you, how many outbound links appear on each of the linking pages, etc.

    So just consider it a shorthand approximation for your inbound links.

    When determining SERP placement, Google also considers the relevance of each page to the user's query, the relevance of the linking pages, the anchor text used in the links, etc.

    In other words, the algorithm is very complicated. A PR 2 site may appear before a PR 4 site in the results because the PR 2 site is more relevant, or has more links from relevant, "authoritative" sites.

    So I don't believe that PR is worthless or meaningless, but you should certainly understand the other factors that go into determining SERP results.

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    Duplicate post
    Last edited by rainchild; 07-19-2009 at 01:11 AM.

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    Do you deny that just one link from a page showing PR7 to a three month old blog with one post will do wonders for its its page rank come the next update? If so what impact will that have in the serp's?

    Nada, nothing, zero, zip
    Last edited by rainchild; 07-19-2009 at 01:12 AM.

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    Website with lower pagerank could get a higher serps than website with PR5 for example.

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