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    Question Does paypal accept china user to accept USD?

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    Can anyone advise .. is paypal allow china user to accept or send payment in USD?

    If can.. can advise me the step to do it?

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    you get the option to select currency when sending paypal payment. Regarding receiving payment in US$, I think yes, but you should contact paypal using contact form your paypal account.

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    http://www.google.com/search?q=paypa...ient=firefox-a

    They do have a Chines website there listed first result so my guess is yes.
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    RMB not being a fully convertible currency, Paypal in China is not connected to the international Paypal, and Chinese Paypal users cannot send or receive USD. Chinese consumers have however the option to register for an international Paypal account as well, however withdrawal fees are high and this it not yet very popular in China. The most popular payment methods in China are wire transfer and Alipay (the leading local payment processing companies). Alipay doesn't support USD as well.
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    What about USD->HKD->RMB?

    Or, USD->some other currency->RMB.
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    No use, HKD is also considered a foreign currency in China.
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    hi,

    i think so, the only contry i can think of, not accept paypal is macau

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecvps View Post
    hi,

    i think so, the only contry i can think of, not accept paypal is macau
    There are a few that paypal do not accept such as Pakistan (or was it India. I'm not really sure) but there are others in addition to Macao

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    No use, HKD is also considered a foreign currency in China.
    Quite bizarre since HK is already a part of China now.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinohosting View Post
    RMB not being a fully convertible currency, Paypal in China is not connected to the international Paypal, and Chinese Paypal users cannot send or receive USD. Chinese consumers have however the option to register for an international Paypal account as well, however withdrawal fees are high and this it not yet very popular in China. The most popular payment methods in China are wire transfer and Alipay (the leading local payment processing companies). Alipay doesn't support USD as well.
    That explains why some merchants in China have fees up to 8-10%. Quite ridiculous really.

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    I can confirm what sinohosting is actually quite accurate. Paypal has a China facing website though no foreign currency is allowed, for the possible reason of compliance with local financial legislation. There are some local payment gateways offering payment options of local and/or foreign currencies but they normally offer services to local merchants for accepting payments from foreign visitors.

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    For sending payment to China users, try Western Union.

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    And which options are better to get the payment from China?
    Any converter Alipay -> world PayPal?

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    From what I know the only option currently would be to work with a China based agent, who takes the payments on your behalf in RMB and pay you in USD by wire transfer or Paypal.
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    We have many clients in China that pay via PayPal with no problems we have ever heard of
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    From the information on PayPal site, they work with the following currencies

    Anyway it is worth addressing such question directly to PayPal representatives, they will advise exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcbarak View Post
    We have many clients in China that pay via PayPal with no problems we have ever heard of
    Yes, they use the international Paypal, not the Chinese one (www.paypal.com/cn)
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    Chinese customers can pay you in USD,there is no problem,just use Paypal if you want receive money.
    But if you need send money,try other solutions,because Paypal charge USD35.00 withdrawal fee for Chinese users.

    If you want send money to a Chinese user,try Western Union.It is a well-known service in China,you can get your money in almost every local post office.If your user is in small city and their post office do not provide Western Union service,they can go to Agricultural Bank of China and get the money.
    Last edited by 2EZNetwork; 08-05-2009 at 07:19 AM.

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    Yes international paypal works fine to accept USD

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    Wanted to ask a question - i always thought that Western Union charge too high commission for their services. Is it different in China? What are the rates there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XCart View Post
    Wanted to ask a question - i always thought that Western Union charge too high commission for their services. Is it different in China? What are the rates there?
    I believe it's cheaper.

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    Likerise, thank you for the information. I believe it will be helpful for our customers who are looking for available payment options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XCart View Post
    Likerise, thank you for the information. I believe it will be helpful for our customers who are looking for available payment options.
    You're welcome.
    I believe most of people will choose Paypal.

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    I recently saw this article about paying methodes from China. I myself am searching for payment methodes from china too. But it seems paypal is very little if you take a look at alipay.

    chinasourcingnews com/2009/07/08/131462-chinas-alipay-overtakes-paypal/
    Last edited by BruinsmaReclame; 09-04-2009 at 05:25 PM.

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    Alipay is very popular in China.And alipay.com has put out their international version.Said that alipay could receive USD for chinese users.As paypal is the most popular in e-commerce payment method,I am not optimistic about alipay to receive USD from internationals.
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    I also see you have to earn at least 5000 USD at alipay before the wire transfer it to your account. Your website will also be checked by chinese goverment rules.

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    i guess paypal accepts to send USD
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinohosting View Post
    From what I know the only option currently would be to work with a China based agent, who takes the payments on your behalf in RMB and pay you in USD by wire transfer or Paypal.
    hi sinohosting, would you be able to give me any information on how to find these kinds of agents? i'd like to use paypal to receive foreign currency here in china

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    I’d like to send money to my daughter in Israel using Paypal. It seems that I can send the money, but there is no way for here to receive the money, since she cannot transfer the money to an Israeli bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahdon View Post
    Hi,

    Can anyone advise .. is paypal allow china user to accept or send payment in USD?

    If can.. can advise me the step to do it?
    Of course, but i think you might need a multi-curreny account or credit card for this purpose.

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    @nelsonkist - can you use Moneybookers instead and withdraw by check?
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    this is really interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by cdgordon View Post
    hi sinohosting, would you be able to give me any information on how to find these kinds of agents? i'd like to use paypal to receive foreign currency here in china
    This is really interesting - you seem to be looking for someone to collect China Yuan & send US dollars to you, and you guess what, we, who are not alone, are in fact seeking someone who can collect US dollars & pay us RMB... intersting? Of course both of us are seeking secure reliable service with reasonable rates.



    A few more words on this interesting topics -

    1. Re. Paypal & China Users

    I personally use quite a lot of paypal in both ways: buying & selling. when I initially used Paypal to purchase something online (hosting and domain for example), I funded paypal with a master / visa card. Then I was able to utilize it to sell something to various countries like the US, and people choose Paypal to pay me. There is no problem, like all of you using it.

    However, Paypal is pain in some ways for a typical China user, which is different from all of you.

    A. Paypal fees to withdraw: $35 per withdraw (compared against $0 for US users).

    B. China's foreign funds censor on both individual and business accounts. For an individual a/c its annual max. limit is $50k. For business (like mine, which is a registered foreign trading co) all funds from outside mainland China should be censored before entering your biz a/c. Means physical export documents from the customs / shipping company and so on is required, otherwise the fund is immediately frozen.

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    Continued

    Quote Originally Posted by wujian View Post
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    C. China Paypal users get suspended more easily for many people don't have a credit card to verify his/her a/c, which leads to the weak acceptance of Paypal by China buyers.

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    important update / edit

    A. Paypal fees to withdraw: $35 per withdraw (compared against $0 for US users).
    MORE DETAILS TO GIVE -

    A. Paypal fees to withdraw: $35 per withdraw (compared against $0 for US users). This caused a lot of people as sellers in China mainland to choose other methods than Paypal. There used to be a method of USD > HKD > RMB supported by China Merchants Bank but now the service is stopped for the reason of foreign fund cersor. Withdrawal to HKD a/c is free if amount is over HKD 1k despite of a 2.5% or so exchange fee by Paypal, and consequently another exchange fee of ???% by the CMB while HKD is made available in RMB (CNY).

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    I will continue to give some details and I hope to help you all; sorry for the bad organization, bcoz i have to stop to respond to some urgent work. Internet is not my business, as i mentioned, different from you all. We are a real world trading biz. I like WHT for it gives me a lot of info and I believe I should give back now for I really know some detailed things bcoz of my career. OK get back to the point.

    2. Western Union

    I often get forced (that said coz I prefer bank wire to company a/c in real world trading for the documents required to legitimize the trading activity)to accept funds via WU but I really don't understand till now, why customers would choose WU instead of Paypal / CC (anybody give me a point). Anyway I am happy since people trust us, for WU is in my favor: Clear payment b4 shipment; less fees. I usually go to the Agricultral Bank of China which just 200 meters away from my office and 5 mins later I am with the cash in CNY / RMB. I believe Post Office will do the same but never tried on my own. I think I should warn all of you while sending money via WU, no matter why you guys preferred it so much (seems crazy to me bcoz some customers do send $5k via WU just to avoid using bank wire to my biz a/c?) A fact with me is that some customers have met me in person, and know me well. But a fact with all China sellers is the $50k limit. If you wanna play well, don't use to its limits to rise suspition. For many people in similar situation, multiple ID is used to collect WU funds. So my question again: why the hell is WU so good for international buyers that you all choose it? I know there are many many honest guys like us...who knows really.. let's prey...

    3. Alipay -

    Alipay is not the only one who operates online payment in CNY(RMB). Many many more...

    Alipay initially supports domestic C2C taobao.com (in Chinese) where you can imagine...prosperous, spamming,saving...honest and bad,everything.

    Alipay has two types of payments. The first type is when you sell on taobao.com (owned by alibaba) and the funds will only be available while the buyer clicks online to confirm the goods received. The second one would just do a bank transfer for you and as a buyer you can not retrieve the money if get a fraud. This can be done offsite / on your own ecommerce site.

    To use Alipay you will need a China bank debit a/c just from any major banks, not credit cards. Also you must apply an "e-banking" or "online banking" from the bank and you will be able to manage your a/c online. A ID # is also required.

    I used to buy some things from taobao.com for example a ram, a usb stick, or a portable desk and so on, thus I have an a/c with taobao com / alipay. To sell on taobao is so far free (yes its true) of charge. But website version of Alipay should charge a little, I don't know exactly. But if you need, I can call them and find out for you in a moment.

    Alipay supports Credit cards in a limited capability. Banks limit the use of CC as funding source of alipay, for example, a bank sets CNY 1k as monthly maximum amt. But this is of little hurt to alipay as most China users don't use CC at all!

    Withdrawal funds to your bank a/c is free so far. (other ideas?)

    Alibaba also sets up a wholesale chanel to utilize alipay and alibaba com to the max. International buyers pay USD online via alipay, and funds go to alibaba's a/c in Bank of China New York Branch (American Bank in fact) and then wired to China's alibaba a/c in BOC mainland branch (Chinese bank) , then alibaba exchange into RMB(CNY) and give to different vendors as their payment. Smart? Still censored? Yes the censor is not passed in any way. But the intention of censor is not to hurt trading, right?

    Please post and share your opinions, cheers
    Last edited by scyllar; 01-08-2010 at 10:15 AM.

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    There are a few that paypal do not accept

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    Paypal wire transfer fee to china bank account is too high at USD 35. Anyway I have go with 2CO, if customer want to pay via paypal their can also pay through 2CO gateway.

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