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Old 04-17-2009, 07:17 AM
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Pirate Bay founders found guilty


A court in Sweden has jailed four men behind The Pirate Bay (TPB), the world's most high-profile file-sharing website, in a landmark case.

Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde were found guilty of breaking copyright law and were sentenced to a year in jail.

They were also ordered to pay 30m kronor (£2.4m) in damages.

In a Twitter posting, Sunde said: "Nothing will happen to TPB, this is just theatre for the media."

Sunde went on to say that he "got the news last night that we lost".

"It used to be only movies, now even verdicts are out before the official release."

The damages were awarded to a number of entertainment companies, including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI, and Columbia Pictures.

However, the total awarded fell short of the 117m kronor (£9m) in damages and interest the firms were seeking.

Speaking to the BBC, the chairman of industry body the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) John Kennedy said the verdict sent out a clear message.

"These guys weren't making a principled stand, they were out to line their own pockets. There was nothing meritorious about their behaviour, it was reprehensible.

"The Pirate Bay did immense harm and the damages awarded doesn't even get close to compensation, but we never claimed it did.

"There has been a perception that piracy is OK and that the music industry should just have to accept it. This verdict will change that," he said.

The four men denied the charges throughout the trial, saying that because they did not actually host any files, they were not doing anything wrong.

Speaking to the BBC earlier this week, Sunde said that there was no difference between us and Google."

A lawyer for Carl Lundstrom, Per Samuelson told journalists he was shocked by the guilty verdict and the severity of the sentence.

"That's outrageous, in my point of view. Of course we will appeal," he was quoted as saying by Reuters news agency. "This is the first word, not the last. The last word will be ours."

Political issue

Rickard Falkvinge, leader of The Pirate Party - which is trying to reform laws around copyright and patents in the digital age - told the BBC that the verdict was "a gross injustice".

"This wasn't a criminal trial, it was a political trial. It is just gross beyond description that you can jail four people for providing infrastructure.

"There is a lot of anger in Sweden right now. File-sharing is an institution here and while I can't encourage people to break copyright law, I'm not following it and I don't agree with it.

"Today's events make file-sharing a hot political issue and we're going to take this to the European Parliament."

The Pirate Bay is the world's most high profile file-sharing website and was set up in 2003 by anti-copyright organisation Piratbyran, but for the last five years it has been run by individuals.

Millions of files are exchanged using the service every day.

No copyright content is hosted on The Pirate Bay's web servers; instead the site hosts "torrent" links to TV, film and music files held on its users' computers.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8003799.stm

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:20 AM
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This is bad news. I don't care about ThePirateBay, but the idea behind it and what this will cause.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:23 AM
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This is bad news. I don't care about ThePirateBay, but the idea behind it and what this will cause.
What is this "idea behind it"?

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:28 AM
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The data that is containted in .torrent & .nzb files. I wonder if those judges actually know the full story and technique used. In Holland NZB index websites are getting closed, that is bad.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:30 AM
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I was wondering how fast this decision would be made. I knew it was supposed to be out today. I didn't expect it to be released already.

It's too bad. The Pirate Bay is an excellent resource. I've used it multiple times for downloading copies of software I had purchased and the disks ended up misplaced or broken.

Even though it says nothing will happen to the site, I am doubtful of that. They've been shut down before, I'm sure it will happen again if this ruling sticks.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:45 AM
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A lot of warez website claim they don't host the files but only server as a medium for people to share links. The files are loaded to filesharing sites like Rapidshare.

What happened to the youtube lawsuit that they are not doing enough to delete copyrighted video?

Could rapidshare be liable to lawsuit later?

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:56 AM
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Could rapidshare be liable to lawsuit later?
And what about other file hosting sites like Mediafire and Megaupload. These sites are making thousands from copyrighted material, because they charge for premium accounts mainly used to download/upload warez.

Also, google. I remember when tv-links.co.uk was shut down because it linked to copyrighted tv shows from places like megavideo, tudou and stage6 (deceased) - When google had pretty much every link on that site (and millions more) indexed aswell.

Im not saying any of the sites are doing anything wrong, but you cant prosecute one organisation, and not prosecute another for the same (or worse) offence.

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Old 04-17-2009, 08:17 AM
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And what about other file hosting sites like Mediafire and Megaupload. These sites are making thousands from copyrighted material, because they charge for premium accounts mainly used to download/upload warez.

Also, google. I remember when tv-links.co.uk was shut down because it linked to copyrighted tv shows from places like megavideo, tudou and stage6 (deceased) - When google had pretty much every link on that site (and millions more) indexed aswell.

Im not saying any of the sites are doing anything wrong, but you cant prosecute one organisation, and not prosecute another for the same (or worse) offence.
Yep, I agree with you.

It's linking not hosting, links can freely be found on google.

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Old 04-17-2009, 08:18 AM
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A lot of warez website claim they don't host the files but only server as a medium for people to share links. The files are loaded to filesharing sites like Rapidshare.

What happened to the youtube lawsuit that they are not doing enough to delete copyrighted video?

Could rapidshare be liable to lawsuit later?
You bet.... just takes someone to step up to the plate. Producers are tired of this sh*t.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=853507

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Old 04-17-2009, 08:23 AM
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Yep, I agree with you.

It's linking not hosting, links can freely be found on google.
Google removes.. TPB does not.

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Old 04-17-2009, 08:23 AM
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This has nothing to say for TPB, the court rounds will continue till the highest hold.

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:15 AM
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When will these pirates ever learn?

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:30 AM
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If only they were able to refuse payment to the studios, and send the €30 million to the people who acted and directed the movies.

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:32 AM
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ahh damn...that sucks.

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:53 AM
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If only they were able to refuse payment to the studios, and send the €30 million to the people who acted and directed the movies.
Porn biz has no bodies like MPAA/RIAA at all. It's all thousands of independent companies. Can't say they were screwing their actors/directors. Well maybe they were... after all.. that's the biz

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