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  1. #1
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    is the Cloud stable (amazon/mosso)??

    hello,

    Does anyone has experience with the cloud hosting network from Amazon or Mosso? Is it fast and reliable?

    Regaridng uptime, do until now they have 100%?

    Any recent major problem of offline/outtages?


    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedrojose View Post
    hello,

    Does anyone has experience with the cloud hosting network from Amazon or Mosso? Is it fast and reliable?

    Regaridng uptime, do until now they have 100%?

    Any recent major problem of offline/outtages?


    thanks
    Not at all. Cloud has allot of downtimes, it depends on the nodes you are but amazon had dowtimes and problems with their cloud as well mosso

    They actually currently have more problems then just using a HA cluster if uptime is what you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazmanultra View Post
    Looks like an absolute mess to me. LOL. I think I'd have a heart attack on a shared system like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObjectZone View Post
    Looks like an absolute mess to me. LOL. I think I'd have a heart attack on a shared system like that...

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    According to Mosso, that is but a small sample of their overall (massive) cluster!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebold View Post
    According to Mosso, that is but a small sample of their overall (massive) cluster!!!
    They may say its small but its not or I am just a lucky customer and included in jsut about every outage. I have complained so many times and so frustrated with Mosso I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy. There is no SSH so if your transferring a large site have fun, there is no ticket system you have to TRUST them with issues they say they will fix as well if you want SSL you need to pay an extra $20/mo. There is no flexibility in mysql user accounts so its all (default) or nothing. There is not an proactive alert system for maintenance so your site will be toast and you check to find out. Now you can subscribe to the rss feed of the page and get alerts but that was something I needed to do.

    I have never seen so much downtime with any host and I have used my fair share. MediaTemple was as bad as I thought it was.

    Mosso you have lots of work to do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebold View Post
    According to Mosso, that is but a small sample of their overall (massive) cluster!!!
    They say their cluster is so massive, however I never hear anyone posting about Mosso. It makes me really wonder because usually when I mention Mosso in a thread, the name is either associated with problems, downtime, or goes unbeknownst by anyone. Mosso doesn't seem to be all that popular, so who is actually using that massive cluster of theirs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquacraze View Post
    They may say its small but its not or I am just a lucky customer and included in jsut about every outage. I have complained so many times and so frustrated with Mosso I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy. There is no SSH so if your transferring a large site have fun, there is no ticket system you have to TRUST them with issues they say they will fix as well if you want SSL you need to pay an extra $20/mo. There is no flexibility in mysql user accounts so its all (default) or nothing. There is not an proactive alert system for maintenance so your site will be toast and you check to find out. Now you can subscribe to the rss feed of the page and get alerts but that was something I needed to do.

    I have never seen so much downtime with any host and I have used my fair share. MediaTemple was as bad as I thought it was.

    Mosso you have lots of work to do...
    So, why do you stay? Is there something there that you absolutely have to have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by plumsauce View Post
    So, why do you stay? Is there something there that you absolutely have to have?
    I am in the process of looking for new host, Ive been there since January and tried and gave them the benefit of the doubt but I am done.

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    I'm using many Amazon instances (20+ currently and sometimes more across zones) and have had only one issues in the last 8 months. I use the cloud to create stability for the application users by being able to create a virtual network or cluster of machines that otherwise would take up a rack. If there is an outage with one node in one zone my other two, for example with my app servers, pick up the slack in other zones.

    Is one single instance on Amazon stable? If you have mission critical stuff I would put it on a dedicated with a good managed host with all the goodies like RAID drives, dual nics etc. But if you're going to build a multi node system serving an app I believe, and have proven, that the cloud can preform wonderfully.

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    how about gogrid? does anyone experience with it?

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    Amazon's cloud has a lot of shared resources in it.Its functionality is also a bit higher than other ones.

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    The "cloud" isn't there to host a single website, or a single anything for that matter.

    The idea behind the "cloud" is scalability and on demand upgrading etc.

    the cloud is best represented by say VMWare Server installed on a limitless machine.



    The idea is that you setup your OWN infrastructure. You want a High Availability Cluster that spans multiple locations? Guess what? setup 10 nodes in each location you want. Think of each Node as a Server. So now you are running 20 servers.


    Check out: http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/

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    I'm on cloud server of Mosso (not the $100 / month cloud sites). It's cheap and unmanaged, thus far, everything's quite good and no problem at all.
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    A cloud platform should be less likely to have problem if designed properly. I'd put my money on Amazon but mind you they have suffered more than twice massive outage since they started their business several years ago. If maximum availability is something you are after, don't bank on one provider and try geographically distributed multi-providers.

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    An individual cloud machine is probably as likely as a server to die (in some cases slightly less as the physical node is missing some hardware that can cause a failure [and in some rare cases, possibly WAY less, because they pro-actively migrate instances around if they catch a whiff of hardware failure on a node], and in some cases slightly more as they're utilizing older stuff because it is cheap); but the idea is you can more cheaply and easily have others available to replace it, probably online simultaneously and ready to be failed over to, if you've built a proper architecture for hosting it on the cloud.

    Truly enterprise cloud offerings may offer built-in HA by providing services to live migrate from one machine to another in the event of a problem; but this logic can get iffy, because how can you live-migrate an instance if it's dead? You can't. The best option is to run 2+ instances simultaneously yourself, and cluster them using the appropriate technologies.

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    As of my experience with working on cloud servers, Amazon leads the cloud industry, running 2 instances simultaneously will cost double, we have few options to make sure sever data and settings safe up-to some extend,

    Before engaging your cloud servers into live production, bundle your server to be on the safer side, even if the live server fails we can boot the bundled server in few minutes, and please note if you have any major configuration changes or updates made on the server immediately bundle the server which saves your configuration.

    As far as data is concerned:
    Please note: Attach EBS(Elastic Block Store)to store all your data.
    Hence even server crashes EBS stands still with all the data.
    You can also reconnect the EBS to another instance.
    Also please make pro-active measures to safe guard your data by performing regular backups from ec2 servers to s3 using some unique tools like s3cmd, rsync, s3backup(Win) and etc,..

    Hope this helps and gives you some idea!!

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    Speaking on our own experience on Rackspace Cloud, having about 300+ websites on it - no issues so far. Sometimes we get the odd database cluster being worked upon, but nothing major. Support related queries have gone down, and the uptime is very good.
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    One can try cloud services from www.softlayer.com. They have geographic diversity and well maintained cloud services.

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    You can contact their sales for further details.

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    Well a dedicated cloud is the next new thing in my opinion , same concept as switching from shared to dedicated , you get all the flexibility of being on the cloud , without having to share the environment with anyone else , and just add servers as needed.
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