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    Calpop?

    Anone ever go with Calpop? They seem too good to be true. Look at the hotmail email I found from a whois of their domain:

    Registrant:
    CalPop, Inc. (CALPOP-DOM)
    624 S. Grand, Ste. 700
    Los Angeles, CA 90010
    US

    Domain Name: CALPOP.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    CalPop, Inc. (S10349-OR) [email protected]
    CalPop, Inc.
    624 S. Grand, Ste. 700
    Los Angeles, CA 90010
    US
    213-559-7206 fax: 213-559-7207
    Technical Contact:
    Halloway, Tony (TH14773) [email protected]
    CalPop, Inc.
    624 S. Grand, Ste. 700
    Los Angeles, CA 90010
    213-559-7206 (FAX) 213-559-7207

    Record expires on 04-Jan-2003.
    Record created on 04-Jan-2001.
    Database last updated on 23-Oct-2002 13:25:57 EDT.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS1.CALPOP.COM 64.242.38.5
    NS2.CALPOP.COM 64.242.38.6

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    hmmm

    Kinda funny that they use hotmail....

    let me run a trace route and ill get back with ya on them in a second

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    looks to be they are laget. I think they use Savvis for their datacenter possibly or they use them for the IPs. heres teh Trace Route:


    C:\>tracert calpop.com

    Tracing route to calpop.com [64.242.38.19]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.106.224.1
    2 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms HE6-CENTRAL-GSRB-P31.cfl.rr.com [24.95.225.102]

    3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms HE5-CENTRAL-GSRD-SRP40.cfl.rr.com [24.95.224.10]

    4 20 ms 20 ms 10 ms pop1-tby-P0-2.atdn.net [66.185.136.173]
    5 20 ms 60 ms 20 ms bb1-tby-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.136.160]
    6 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms bb2-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.245]
    7 40 ms 30 ms 40 ms pop2-atm-P5-0.atdn.net [66.185.138.43]
    8 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-gw25-atl-11-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.211.205
    ]
    9 40 ms 30 ms 40 ms sl-bb23-atl-6-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.22.9]
    10 60 ms 60 ms 50 ms sl-bb25-fw-4-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.61]
    11 61 ms 50 ms 60 ms 144.232.11.90
    12 80 ms 80 ms 70 ms sl-bb23-ana-11-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.77]
    13 80 ms 80 ms 70 ms 144.232.1.154
    14 100 ms 90 ms 90 ms sl-savvis-14-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.103.46]
    15 101 ms 90 ms 90 ms 64.240.66.174
    16 90 ms 90 ms 100 ms calpop.com [64.242.38.19]

    Trace complete.

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    I wonder how long they will be around...

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    Anyone who uses a hotmail address for domain registration is a complete idiot.

    And for those of you who do not know:

    Hotmail is supposed to be for non-commercial use and they can delete your account without any sort of notice (and for whatever reason they want). And chances of someone noticing that their account was deleted are slim, because i've noticed most people just get a hotmail account because "it will be around for a long time". Wait till the account gets deleted, someone notices and registers for your old username... you can fill in the rest.

    I'd feel pretty confident in saying that most, i personally haven't read all the TOS agreements, free email providers don't need to give any reasonable explanation for terminating an account.

    With the above information, you might ponder what other sort of negligent behavior might follow a company whom doesn't find time for important details like properly securing their own domain name.

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    They're located at Savvis from my 3 minutes of research.

    Calpop website: "CalPOP's Network has been rated the #1 rated backbone in the world - two years and counting according to Keynote Systems, an independent ISP auditor, as reported in Boardwatch Magazine's Year 2000 Directory of Internet Service Providers."

    Savvis website: "SAVVIS was rated the top rated backbone in the world - for two years - according to Keynote Systems, an independent ISP auditor, as reported in Boardwatch Magazine's Year 2000 Directory of Internet Service Providers. To attain this status, SAVVIS surpassed 36 other service providers including AT&T, UUnet, PSINet, Sprint, Exodus and Digex."


    Sad thing is, they BOTH used the word "rated" twice in one sentence.... "rated the top rated", argh!

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    I'd also like to interject... "Clockwork's Internet has been rated the top rated internet in the world by at least one individual!"


    When will the madness of cloaking end?

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    Clockwork...u like making 3 post in a row?

    Yeah i noticed they were with savvis too fromt hat tracert but i didnt aucally look into the wording of the sites. Thats funny t hat they used the same line from the site word for word lol.

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    You'd think vBulletin's search feature is a little known secret...

    Anyways, read this thread. The server I mentioned in it was from Infinology (wasn't my idea to get it from them ), read this thread about them. Traceroute infinology.com & calpop.com, and draw your own conclusions. I gave up trying to fathom them long ago

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    Originally posted by cedwards
    Clockwork...u like making 3 post in a row?
    Had nothing better to do, but then after I saw I made 3 consecutive posts I felt really dirty and had to go take a shower...


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    You better have felt dirty boy!

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    I'm surprised nobody thought of this first. Many spammers out there get e-mail addresses from whois searches. Since you have to have legitimate information to meet the guidelines set by ICANN they know the e-mail more than likely will be accurate. But if someone enters a hotmail.com or yahoo.com e-mail address they can keep all the spam separate from their regular e-mail. I'd find it hard to believe that they do business from that e-mail address. Although, anything is possible...
    Mark Blair

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    hmmm your right....

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