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    Need help the 100% vs 650 dilema

    Hello all

    When building and working with a site there's always the dilema if you're using % with the site - for example on http://www.FindSP.com we're using 100% so the site is on the whole page.

    But we were thinking about making it 650 instead cnet.com style...

    which one do you prefer and why?
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    I'd prefer viewing a site that doesn't utilize the entire screen. That way, I won't have to turn my head in order to grasp the content on each page.

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    I prefer the expanded tables (100%) because the content isn't as cluttered as the 650 is.

    Looking at FindSP.com (as it already is relatively cluttered)-- I wouldn't bother even trying to convert the layout into 650 width.

    Also, you do know that Cnet.com is more of a 750 width.

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    width

    If you use dreamweaver you notice the little X by X dimension thingy at the bottom right of your window.

    it seems that 760x420 is what you have to work with on 800x600 maximized, of course the 420 would actually depend on the # of toolbars etc... but the 760 seems to be accurate.

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    I prefer 100% stretch because at higher resolutions...your website is just going to be a little box in the middle of the screen with a LOT of empty space EVERYWHERE.

    Even if there is no content stretching, just something to fine the gaps.
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    Oh and by the 780 is the width in pixels you'll want for 800x600 display. The scroll bars on Netspace and IE are both 20 pixels wide.
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    Originally posted by Chaps
    Oh and by the 780 is the width in pixels you'll want for 800x600 display. The scroll bars on Netspace and IE are both 20 pixels wide.
    Actually it's 760, there is the "Favorites, history, etc." bar on the left that you have to accomodate for as well. At 780 you'll end up with scrollbars for just a tiny bit of data, which is almost worse than scrolling for a lot of data!
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    It's like this....

    Let me make it really easy on you.

    Any column of text wider than 52 letters is too hard for the human eye to read as finding the next line becomes too difficult. This is why you'll see newspapers in relatively narrow columns - these are designed for extreme readability.

    Web sites with a large readership design their sites for the lowest common denominator - 640 x 480 - these are sites like the news sites. I think most sites aimed at a North American viewership can easily go with sites optimized for 800 x 600 resolutions.

    Designing a site with 100% width presents quite a challenge. You need to make the site useful for all resolutions and the problem with that is that if your viewer comes in at 640 by 480 the site will be squished and if the viewer comes in at 1200 x 800 the site will be too wide to read.

    I personally prefer to set my sites for 800 x 600 resolution. A fixed width gives me better control over the layout and how the information gets presented. I really don't see any benefit to 100% width.

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    Hi Lonny,

    I think your site looks perfectly fine in full width. I don't see a need to change it.

    I can definitely see the benefits of moving to a fixed width, first of all you will have a design that looks the same on pretty much most screens, but with the amount of information you have going on there i would be tempted to utilise the screen resolution that the end user has defined.

    DM

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    Actually it's 760, there is the "Favorites, history, etc." bar on the left that you have to accomodate for as well.
    That's only for the small number of Mac users, of course.

    640 by 480
    I wouldn't worry too much about visitors with the resolution. From all your visitors combined, I'd say about 0.001% have a 640x480 resolution.

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    Originally posted by progex
    That's only for the small number of Mac users, of course.
    That's true, but we're still out there ... and growing in numbers.
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    Fixed Width is the way to go...

    I just opened up your site to the max on my browser and it rendered the content in the middle illegible. The lines of text were too long and it was too hard to find the next line below it. Fixed width of 760 would definitely be the way to go - see a similiar site as yours - http://www.tophosts.com.

    I thought findsp.com was a site for hookers or escorts who are often referred to as service providers... But I see you list Web hosting companies. How do I go about getting our hosting company listed on your site? It looks very good and very professional by the way.


    Originally posted by DangerMouse
    Hi Lonny,

    I think your site looks perfectly fine in full width. I don't see a need to change it.

    I can definitely see the benefits of moving to a fixed width, first of all you will have a design that looks the same on pretty much most screens, but with the amount of information you have going on there i would be tempted to utilise the screen resolution that the end user has defined.

    DM

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    Re: Fixed Width is the way to go...

    Originally posted by d00m2k
    I just opened up your site to the max on my browser and it rendered the content in the middle illegible. The lines of text were too long and it was too hard to find the next line below it. Fixed width of 760 would definitely be the way to go - see a similiar site as yours - http://www.tophosts.com.

    I thought findsp.com was a site for hookers or escorts who are often referred to as service providers... But I see you list Web hosting companies. How do I go about getting our hosting company listed on your site? It looks very good and very professional by the way.



    heheh, escorts? never though of it

    you can add your company by going to

    http://www.findsp.com/hosting/hostcenter/signup.asp
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