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Hi,

I am the newest in the hosting world have just 48 clients from my area by door to door marketing. Now i am trying to do something on-line. I dont want to get THAWTE or versign certificates. I have SSL on my dedicated, so how can i use SSL without buying anything from versign? I have heard about personal certificates... Please guide me from a lil basic ...

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A personal certificate isn't the same thing at all, and would be of no use. The cheapest cert available right now that I know of is from Equifax, at $89. If you have 48 clients, that should be manageable.

Just one of the many costs of doing business, and one of the many obstacles that keep webhosting from being a get-rich-quick operation.

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Do you think sign-ups reduces without a cert ? if yes.. then how much ....? Also ... is equifax cert recognised or accepted by popular browsers or my question is just explaining how new I am ... heheh...


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Absolutely. You will consistently see that as one of the reasons why people won't sign up with a host on this board. You need to have SSL to attract many clients.

Equifax should work with as many browsers as Thawte. So you won't run into problems. We use Equifax certs, and have yet to have a problem.

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How about getting SSL and paying nothing, Globalsign says their certificates are free. Will IE and Netscape support it? Is anyone using their certificate and find any problems?

http://www.globalsign.net/digital_ce...freeserver.cfm

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Check their knowledgebase, there are some versions of IE and Netscape that are not going to support it:

http://crm.globalsign.net/

I'm not sure what the Euro is trading at agains the dollar, but the certificate is only free for a year, then you have to renew at the regular price of 175 Euros.

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I've heard that global sign is not integrated with many browsers resulting in error messages

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Taking payments through ibill or instabill creates a bad impression resulting in less sign-ups....

How many of you people agree to this statement?

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Do you think sign-ups reduces without a cert ? if yes.. then how much ....? Also ... is equifax cert recognised or accepted by popular browsers or my question is just explaining how new I am ... heheh...
I was reading through the Equifax site night before last for a customer. The appear to have something going with Thawte so I would presume use much the same encrypting.

Getting a secure cert isn't for getting more signups by the way... it's to protect your customer's valuable information from being intercepted. If you appear to be a professional company who clearly values the trust people are putting in you then the signups will happen of their own accord.

I'm sure it's just the way you worded the statement so I apologise if it wasn't your intent, but you really should move your focus to that of your customers, not yourself...

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Well .. if thats your way of advertising .. then I like it ...
By the way, I told you that I am new to online ordering and need to know each and everything which effect this business. I care for myself my business and my customers because if i get nothing to invest .. I can't facilitate the customers.

I think most people visiting dedicated section won't get emotional by such nice statements

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The SSL demo for Equifax is at https://www.equifaxsecure.com/ebusinessid/ssl_demo.html ... If you look at the "Equifax Secure Business CA" cert details, it expires in less than two months.

I set my system time to June 10th instead of April 10th and visited the site again...the warning about an expired cert popped up. Doh! Is this the CA that Equifax is using to issue SSL server certificates??

I'll probably be getting a cert from Equifax in the near future. But I am a little concerned that their CA cert expired soon. I guess I'll have to contact them to find out how they're planning to deal with it...

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Well .. if thats your way of advertising

If I want to advertise I'll do it in the Advertising section. If you want to take advice as a shameless plug on my part then so be it. Let someone else help you out...

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Rehan,

You mean the lock in the tool bar? I would imagine when the cert is about to expire they'll just renew it. It's not big deal really. As long as it's valid when you're there all is well.

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Dont be abgry dear ... i apologise if you r hurt ..

but please use goog language on this board ...

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Two things have to happen:
1) Equifax has to renew their CA certificate (through Thawte)
2) All of the web site owners that have SSL certs from Equifax need to renew their certificates with the new CA Equifax CA cert

But I've changed my mind about getting an Equifax cert. OpenSRS (Tucows) is also offering certs now, and the reseller price is only $99. I've already signed up as a domain reseller, so I'll also register as a cert reseller and get one through them.

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