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    Cool Data Center - Raised Flooring

    Hello Everyone!

    I would like to see if I can get one of you folks who own your own data center to give me some help here.

    I am wondering who is a good supplier of Raised Flooring for Data Centers?

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    Somehow i doubt anyone who owns a datacenter goes anywhere near this forum.

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    Ask deb from futurequest, im pretty sure they have it there.

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    Re: Data Center - Raised Flooring

    Originally posted by TechEGlobal

    I am wondering who is a good supplier of Raised Flooring for Data Centers?

    I'm sure your local industrial construction company could do that for you... I'd be *QUITE* surprised if there are companies that actually focus on that niche, i mean, is there some huge market for raised flooring? nah.

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    Originally posted by zerphyte
    Somehow i doubt anyone who owns a datacenter goes anywhere near this forum.
    I believe rackshack owner comes here as he owns this forum.


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    We have our own datacenter however we use overhead cable management as opposed to a raised floor. Im pretty sure I remember seeing pictures of them installing raised flooring at futurequest however.

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    our raised datacenter floor cost us about $18,000 every 2000/sqft

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    Paul and Bailey form VenturesOnline also post here, as does Daniel (formerly from the aforementioned)

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    Sorry if this is totally irrelevant but, could someone brief me as to why raised flooring is needed in a lot of DC's?

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    Originally posted by 311
    Sorry if this is totally irrelevant but, could someone brief me as to why raised flooring is needed in a lot of DC's?
    Our A/C cooling flows under the floor up through vent tiles that we can put down anywhere we need airflow on the servers. The electrical wires also run to the server racks under the floor, the network cable runs on ladder racks hanging from overhead to prevent electrical interferance from the 110v and 240v power lines under the floor.
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    Originally posted by 311
    Sorry if this is totally irrelevant but, could someone brief me as to why raised flooring is needed in a lot of DC's?
    Raised flooring helps in maintaining temperature and cable management.

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    Originally posted by Sainthax


    Our A/C cooling flows under the floor up through vent tiles that we can put down anywhere we need airflow on the servers. The electrical wires also run to the server racks under the floor, the network cable runs on ladder racks hanging from overhead to prevent electrical interferance from the 110v and 240v power lines under the floor.
    That's the way it should be done. RF interference from power lines and cabling can be a real problem with any kind of installation let alone a datacenter. Keeping RF away from data cables is a very good idea plus having the electrical cables under the server platforms ensures better earth potential.

    You can also have racks whereby you do not place the first row of servers at ground level. You leave the first level free to run power cables and allow for cooling and run your datacables overhead as in the first example.
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    Originally posted by Sainthax


    Our A/C cooling flows under the floor up through vent tiles that we can put down anywhere we need airflow on the servers. The electrical wires also run to the server racks under the floor, the network cable runs on ladder racks hanging from overhead to prevent electrical interferance from the 110v and 240v power lines under the floor.
    We run ours the same way. Works great.
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    You should give Paul a call at Colo4Dallas. I think he told me he has a good supplier.
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    I've always wondered how strong those raised floors are. Can you imagine the weight of one full rack? Eek.

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    Answer; REALLY STRONG!!!
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    Originally posted by RackMy.com
    Answer; REALLY STRONG!!!

    Just to confirm RackMy.com, you could park a fleet of Hummers on them.
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    I think each non-vented tile we use is rated at 1200lbs
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    Where are you located. I can probably recommend a few supplies/contrators in Texas. Dallas and Austin will have large suppliers due to the semiconductor plants and datacenters.

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    There are a lot of suppliers out there for raised floor. You should easily be able to get them installed for under $10. There is a lot of raised floor in storage right now. Bottom line = Buyers market. I will give you one bit of advise on who to use. Look for the company that is actually doing the work. Contractors add 20% or more to materials and labor.

    Strength of the floors depends on several things. Ours support over 1200lbs per tile, or 300lbs/foot. That is pretty high considering colos in high rise colos have building floor loads often below 100/ft. One more reason to go single story.
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    I always thought raised floors were used to protect equipment from floods.... /stupid me

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    Originally posted by imitech
    I always thought raised floors were used to protect equipment from floods.... /stupid me
    .... Yeah, On the 8th floor of the building, that extra 1 foot helps your chances if theres a flood!

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    1) In our OLD datacenter, we used raised flooring. It is expensive. Very strong, too -- the tiles weigh a TON.

    2) In our NEW datacenter, we ran everything overhead using raceway. FAR cheaper, just as effective, especially since the datacenter is on the second floor.

    Even if I were doing a datacenter on the first floor, I'd run everything overhead and not rack anything in the bottom 2-4U of a rack and not bother with raised flooring. The cost differential is just TOO great.
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    Originally posted by porcupine


    .... Yeah, On the 8th floor of the building, that extra 1 foot helps your chances if theres a flood!
    LOL

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    Equinix..

    No raised floors, instead trays overhead keeping power, copper, and fiber in different trays.

    I heard they paid like $69,000/sq foot to build those centers out, for HVAC, FC, etc...anyone know the numbers?

    Tom

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    Re: Equinix..

    Originally posted by TomK
    No raised floors, instead trays overhead keeping power, copper, and fiber in different trays.

    I heard they paid like $69,000/sq foot to build those centers out, for HVAC, FC, etc...anyone know the numbers?

    Tom
    $70,000 per square foot? That i'd love to see, maybe if the raised flooring was made of diamonds and gold

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    Re: Re: Equinix..

    Originally posted by porcupine


    $70,000 per square foot? That i'd love to see, maybe if the raised flooring was made of diamonds and gold

    If they built it in the middle of the .com boom...anything is possible. Hell, there might be diamonds and gold embedded in it...lol

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    Re: Re: Equinix..

    Originally posted by porcupine


    $70,000 per square foot? That i'd love to see, maybe if the raised flooring was made of diamonds and gold
    No raised floors at Equinix, just 2+ feet of concrete all around.

    TomK

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    I expect that $70,000 per square foot could only be possible if you took ALL costs of running the datacenter (and staffing it over a few years, and the hardware over a few years) and calculated like that...

    I'm looking at an old quote for 1000 sq.ft raised floor and it comes in around $100/sq ft. Thats for 8 inches of rise, 2x2 ft tiles, each rated at 1100lbs.
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    Originally posted by refcom
    I expect that $70,000 per square foot could only be possible if you took ALL costs of running the datacenter (and staffing it over a few years, and the hardware over a few years) and calculated like that...

    I'm looking at an old quote for 1000 sq.ft raised floor and it comes in around $100/sq ft. Thats for 8 inches of rise, 2x2 ft tiles, each rated at 1100lbs.
    Indeed, that # I heard includes HVAC, FS, security, etc. In Ashburn alone, they have 3 buildings, the biggest being about 3 to 4 football fields in length.

    Fort Equinix is more like it.

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    Oh if they used fm400 gas i could believe it, that stuff is just rediculously expensive, and i doubt it would be in use whatsoever were it not for the .com bubble, as it's pretty useless too IMHO (because what happens to all your staff if theres a fire!?), theres far better fire supression methods available.

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