I have been looking into the differences between Plesk 5.0.2 and Ensim Webppliance 3.1.1 (Linux).
Since I'm interested in moving over to one of these CP's sometime soon, I have spent the past month or so evaluating each control panel in depth on my own.
Itís pretty clear that Ensim has many more features than Plesk.
FEATURE Plesk Ensim
Unlimited Domain License $799 $199
Website Preview Capabilities No Yes
Shared SSL Capabilities No Yes
JSP (Tomcat 4) No Yes
Safe SSH Environment No Yes
Can change the domain name of a site
to something else just by typing in No Yes
a new name for it.
NTP Server set through control panel Yes No*
Mailing List Support (ex.Majordomo) No Yes
Email Client after Account Creation No* Yes
Send Email if over Quota Yes Yes
View list of all sites bandwidth
usage on one page No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes HTTP Yes Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes HTTPS Yes Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Incl. Anon. FTP Yes Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes FTP No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes IMAP No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes POP3 No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes SMTP No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes SSH No Yes
Bandwidth Monitoring Includes TELNET No Yes
* Can be added manually.
They both have many features in common, so I did not include these common features in my list above. Obviously, I can install anything I want on either system, such as MRTG graphs, so thatís a non-issue for me.
I also did not include "look and feel" in my comparison. Since it is opinion-based and not fact-based, it was not taken into account.
Some say Ensim Webppliance is a resource hog. Based on my testing, I have not seen any dramatic increase in CPU usage or memory usage when adding or removing sites or in any other instance for that matter. Ensim does use up more web space per site, but that is of no real concern to me as large hard drives are common place these days.
Can anyone convince me as to why Plesk 5.0.2 is really better than Ensim 3.1.1?
Last edited by steve93138; 09-26-2002 at 12:41 AM.
Was that made by you or listed on a site? I am refering to the list. I think its missing a lot of other stuff. I mean 1/3 of that list is all about what bandwidth is managed. And there are some things that there are hacks for, like viewing total bandwidth on one page. But I think its missing a few of plesks features.
davidb: I created this list for my own analysis but it is a list in progress.
Deahost: You are correct - Ensim does only allow one database and I will count that against Ensim in my list! Of course a user can add as many tables as they want to one database but if they really want more databses, I have a simple form page that will add a new database by just entering in a couple pieces of information.
RFhost: Thank you. This is the kind of information that I'm interested in. Upgrading is a pretty big issue and I know that with the RPM install version of Plesk, patching security holes is easier than Ensim (or so I've heard!). I'll put this on my list when I look into this issue further.
You also appear to have compiled the list from what Plesk is lacking over Ensim... how about an impartial list including some of the things Plesk 5 does have out of the box.
I've never used Ensim so don't ask me to compile one... but I'm told it has features than Ensim doesn't
Believe it or not, it is an impartial list. There are no other features, correct me if I'm wrong anyone, that Plesk has over Ensim. That used to be the case, but I'm looking at current versions and I don't see any significant ones. For example, Ensim now has reseller capabilities.
I do realize that you can install some things manually on Plesk such as Tomcat, website preview & shared ssl (via symbolic links), maybe add your own ftp bandwidth monitoring through a custom script that looks at logs, etc but why should I pay an extra $600 for Plesk then?
99% of my customers don't need SSH but for those who request it, I should grant them access. If you do this on a Plesk box, you're asking for trouble. On an Ensim box it is a confined environment.
I also have quite a few customers that want mailing list support and Plesk just doesn't have that built in. Ensim has Majordomo.
I have heard many people say "Plesk is better" but have yet to hear a solid justification for that statement. That's why I started this thread because I just can't seem to justify that statement. I know that Plesk works in harmony with RedHat and Ensim takes over, but who cares. And it's not really about the money for me as much as it is about what features I can get, and the least amount of hassle.
I mean, let's take data loss as an example. My hard drive crashes so I put a new one in, and then reinstall Plesk. Then I have to reinstall all the extra features I added manually and then reinstall the site backups. If I were to *upgrade* Plesk, the same also holds true. I'd have to manually do all kinds of things. What's the point? Ensim installs in one shot, maybe I'll add a few extra things, restore the sites and call it a day. Not so when you have to do everything manually in Plesk.
I used to be a Plesk fan but now I wonder if that's even a wise thing to be...
Last edited by steve93138; 09-25-2002 at 09:55 PM.
Originally posted by Deahost
Ensim only sets up one database when a domain is added and only one database is allowed. If more are needed then they have to be added manualy via phpmyadmin by admin.
That can be changed. A read through the technical ref PDF will show you what commands are issued by the appliance that creates the accounts, all you need to do is edit them, as well as add a second blank to the new account creation page to ask if you want a second database or not.
Originally posted by RFhost
I have heard that it is very difficult to update core packages on an Ensim system (Php , apache etc.) without breaking everything. However with a plesk system it is very easy.