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09-20-2002, 12:24 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Interesting Observation? (EarHost/FloHost)
There was a thread this morning on the Web Hosting Forum started by Travis about the acquisition of Ear Host. I don't know where it's gone (probably deleted by a mod), but visiting the FloSupport.net site that Travis has designed for supporting FloHost members revealed something very interesting.
This is a post made on the FloSupport forum, it's visible on the main page:
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Fork Bomb Posted by: [Tim] on 09-14-2002 @ 03:08 PM
Hello,
FloHost Web Services has been under attack of a Fork Bomb Attack. The users account has been terimated and in question. Everything should be back to normal. We apoglize for any problems this has caused.
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The fact the servers were put through a Fork Bomb is not significant but what is interesting about this post is the poster's ID. Take a look everyone... This after FloHost denied all further association with Tim, James, EarHost and Paradise Designs.
Leaves a lot to be desired, unless I'm mistaken.
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09-20-2002, 12:27 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Interesting
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09-20-2002, 12:28 PM #3Aspiring Evangelist
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The thred is here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=75625
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09-20-2002, 12:28 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Re: Interesting Observation? (EarHost/FloHost)
Originally posted by Fazel3
There was a thread this morning on the Web Hosting Forum started by Travis about the acquisition of Ear Host. I don't know where it's gone (probably deleted by a mod), but visiting the FloSupport.net site that Travis has designed for supporting FloHost members revealed something very interesting.
This is a post made on the FloSupport forum, it's visible on the main page:
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Fork Bomb Posted by: [Tim] on 09-14-2002 @ 03:08 PM
Hello,
FloHost Web Services has been under attack of a Fork Bomb Attack. The users account has been terimated and in question. Everything should be back to normal. We apoglize for any problems this has caused.
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The fact the servers were put through a Fork Bomb is not significant but what is interesting about this post is the poster's ID. Take a look everyone... This after FloHost denied all further association with Tim, James, EarHost and Paradise Designs.
Leaves a lot to be desired, unless I'm mistaken.
Yes, the deal does smell like tuna, we have to wait and see what happens....
BTW, last time i checked the thread was moved to related offers
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09-20-2002, 12:38 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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Yep, the thread is in the Related Offers forum. Just Checked.
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"I did not want to say any of that earlier for fear of Tim or someone close to him finding out"
"I have gained Tim's trust over the months and he considers me one of his friends and he trusts me. I am now backstabbing him"
"saving everyone from him"
"I have the support behind me to make this all work so I am doing a hostile takeover of his company"
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Don't know if the majority of American based WHT surfers have heard of "Neighbours", it's an Aussie soap with ridiciulously over-dramatic storylines and amateur acting. Flohost's "spilling the beans" post reminded of Neighbours at it's worst!!
Hostile takeover of a company is achieved when you buy enough shares from a company to become it's largest share holder. Seeing as I don't see EarHost floating on any stockmarkets, and by FloHost's own admission, Travis simply used a little social engineering to hack into the servers and take them over, I don't think that counts as a hostile takeover... but it does constitute a public admission of the fact he used a form of "hacking"
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09-20-2002, 12:41 PM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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You just can`t deal with a company when there`s Timmy around there, EarHost still hasnt paid me for the design they`re using
Freelance designer, providing CHEAP and HIGH QUALITY designs.
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09-20-2002, 12:47 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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I thought R K **** did that design?
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09-20-2002, 12:59 PM #8Eternal Member
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Originally posted by Fazel3
Don't know if the majority of American based WHT surfers have heard of "Neighbours", it's an Aussie soap with ridiciulously over-dramatic storylines and amateur acting. Flohost's "spilling the beans" post reminded of Neighbours at it's worst!!
Gary
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09-20-2002, 01:54 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by Fazel3
I thought R K **** did that design?Freelance designer, providing CHEAP and HIGH QUALITY designs.
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09-20-2002, 01:54 PM #10Web Hosting Guru
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do a whois on flosupport.net !!!!!!!!!!!! its owned by tim@p a r a d i s e-d e s i g n s.net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-20-2002, 02:02 PM #11Got Milk?
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LOL.... Timmay!
*gets out the nachos*
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09-20-2002, 02:03 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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oh boy here goes the drama again
Seems like WHT would have all of Tim's IPs by now and just ban them all so he couldn't keep coming back with new/borrowed accounts.Gary Harris - the artist formerly known as Dixiesys
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09-20-2002, 02:06 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Well it's more a case of people people joining up with him. Although he isn't technically a big fish like Interland, Verio etc, he has a cult status on this board, and people seem to like associating with him, maybe hoping a little of his fame rubs off onto them?
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09-20-2002, 02:06 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Jason,
http://www.racknine.com/tools/whois....flosupport.net
Uhh... When was this?
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09-20-2002, 03:19 PM #15Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by RackNine
Jason,
http://www.racknine.com/tools/whois....flosupport.net
Uhh... When was this?
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Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: FLOSUPPORT.NET
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS.FLOHOST.COM
Name Server: NS1.FLOHOST.COM
Updated Date: 01-sep-2002
Last update of whois database: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 04:57:31 EDT
The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
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Registration Service Provided By: FloDomains
Contact: travis@flodomains.com
Visit: http://www.flodomains.com
So flodomains owned by travis registered it...
Domain name: FLOSUPPORT.NET
Registrant Contact:
FloSupport
Domain Registar (tim@****************.net)
1-888-FLOHOST
FAX: none
N/A
N/a
N/a, KY 42102
US
But above it says timmy..... so the register is flodomains which lists tims email...? the rest is easilly figured out.
Administrative Contact:
FloSupport
Domain Registar (tim@****************.net)
1-888-FLOHOST
FAX: none
N/A
N/a
N/a, KY 42102
US
Billing Contact:
FloSupport
Domain Registar (tim@****************.net)
1-888-FLOHOST
FAX: none
N/A
N/a
N/a, KY 42102
US
Technical Contact:
FloSupport
Domain Registar (tim@****************.net)
1-888-FLOHOST
FAX: none
N/A
N/a
N/a, KY 42102
US
Status: PROTECTED
Note: To help prevent malicious domain hijacking and domain
transfer errors, the registrar has protected the registrant
of this domain name registrant by locking it. Any attempted
transfers will be denied at the registry until the registrant
requests otherwise. The registrant for the name may unlock
the name at any time at the current registrar in order for
a transfer initiation to succeed
DNS servers:
ns.flohost.com
ns1.flohost.com
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Expires: 08/28/03 00:00:00
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Version 6.3 4/3/2002Jason Mansfield - jmansfie [at] uoguelph.ca
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09-20-2002, 09:23 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by kdghsu
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09-20-2002, 09:26 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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Just thought I'd grab a screenshot before someone changes the info....
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09-20-2002, 09:31 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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I've known Travis for a long while now before he started with flohost, and no he's not Tim. Basically he (Travis) has a grand plan that see's him profiting from taking over a company which has no real assets apart from leased equipment which have months of overdue bills to be paid upon (which Travis says he will pay simply to get access to the server to move the clients to his own server). These are clients which Tim claims they have on those servers. Although why anyone would want to stay at a host which has been down for so long eludes me. He does this under the pretence of thinking he's saving the folks trapped in Tim's evil clutches.
How he will be able to support EarHost's business model is beyond me. They were overselling and underpricing to the extent that it would be impossible to make any profits even with the cheap US bandwidth that's available. It's funny that a few days ago Travis was telling me how he wanted to move away from the cheap/tacky hosting image people had of FloHost..... I'm sure associating with Tim/James has caused him more problems than simply being seen as a cheap host ever could have.
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09-20-2002, 11:50 PM #19Dedicated Hosting Specialist
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I'll be posting more on this later, but Travis is NOT Tim. I have personnaly talked to Travis and he is just as irritated at Tim and his business practices as the next person is. Travis is just trying to make a bad situation a good one. But again I'll be posting more on this later.
I also agree with the person who posted that people flame way to much. You have a little bit of power and go do a little digging and before you have the whole truth you flame. Typically flaming in this matter will make you look like an idiot.
Did anyone stop to think that MAYBE Tim registered flosupport.com or whatever it is FOR Travis? I know that when I register a domain for someone using my Bulk Register account that it lists me as the owner....that doesn't mean I am. And on that note, if I register a domain for someone who turns out to be a scam artist...does that make me responsible...no.
You guys need to get the WHOLE truth before you start making accusations.Life is Minimum live it Maximum.
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09-20-2002, 11:58 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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On WHT its guilty before proven innocent, everyone knows that
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09-20-2002, 11:59 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by MikeA
Did anyone stop to think that MAYBE Tim registered flosupport.com or whatever it is FOR Travis? I know that when I register a domain for someone using my Bulk Register account that it lists me as the owner....that doesn't mean I am. And on that note, if I register a domain for someone who turns out to be a scam artist...does that make me responsible...no.
You guys need to get the WHOLE truth before you start making accusations.
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09-21-2002, 12:13 AM #22Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by Myacen
No travis is a reseller for enom hence the
So either Travis changed the email address/and contact information or Tim did.Jason Mansfield - jmansfie [at] uoguelph.ca
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09-21-2002, 12:23 AM #23WHT Addict
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i still don't know why people say tim is james and james is travis and that stuff, basically ive been hosted on a great deal, and its all good, nothing bad, nothing like timmy or anyone
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09-21-2002, 12:59 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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What Mr.Lardo? Is it correct to say you are an EarHost client? If not, then my confused mistake.
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09-21-2002, 01:11 AM #25WHT Addict
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nope im a flohost cilent