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    14 year olds running companies.

    I see posts about 14 year old kids running hosting companies. It seems that other web hosts despise young web hosts. If the owner is mature enough, has good business skills, and provides a good service, then why would it matter how old the person is?
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    School sound to you?
    how about if the child do something wrong and his parents don't let him use the computer?
    A 14 years old person can't legally run a bussines.
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    It’s hard for me to get jobs and I am 19! I have more skills then most people with a Microsoft Certified Dummy Cert. they do have kids that have the skills and the maturity. It’s mostly money though.
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    1. Can't legally bind contracts
    2. School

    I don't have a problem with people working for hosting companies that are that age... as the company will most likely setup some kind of system so that it can still perform even if he/she is not available. If they provide good service, skills, etc, then all the power to them.

    However, I think that 14yr's old to own/run a company is a bad idea.
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    Wow, i never thought about school. I don't know what i was thinking. Anyway, i thought this would be an interesting thread.
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    Note that there is a difference between running and owning a business.....i've met quite a few minors (16/17) that have great business minds with the business registered under their father's name (who in most cases, also has a great business mind)
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    "If the owner is mature enough, has good business skills, and provides a good service, then why would it matter how old the person is?"

    (Aside from the legal ramifications) Given this exceedingly rare combination then most would have no problem. How many 14 yr olds have good business skills? Many 14 yr olds may think they do, but they don't. Granted there are 30 yr olds who shouldn't be running a business - this board is littered with their failed companies. Could a 14 yr old make a great syadmin? sure, but a business person - very, very rarely.
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    The kid could be one of those geniuses that are out of college by 15
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    legal issues. Accountability. Its all fine when things go ok but who do you sue when things go wrong? Its not the individual's ability.

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    Hello,

    Well the most important issue is experience. Do you think running a web hosting business is as easy as 1.2.3 ?

    Of course not, however anyone can be a reseller, but what about having enough experience to run it ? This business requires a certain level of knowledge in the use of Internet languages, protocols, and software.

    You might think the owner just manage the business, and he will recruit some staffs in different departments. Admins, Sales, Customer services... But since the owner himself has got no experience or might not have enough knowledge of this industry, he may get ripped by his staff.
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    I think its only logic.
    How can a 14yr old run a business and attend schl at the same time? Running a webhost company asks alot of time to maintain and manage. How much time can a 14 yr old have to do that all at once with schl and whatever he/she is doing in his/her teen life?
    And if hes/shes not going to school then what business skills will he/she have in the future? even for that webhosting company?
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    Accountability, availability, efficacy

    Accountability - Liable to being called to account;

    Assuming they are responsible and accountable in their own nature, you cannot hold them legally accountable. Unless you enter into a contract with their parents you are out-of-luck. This is especially dangerous if something more than just downtime goes wrong...

    Availability - Present and ready for use; at hand; accessible

    Will school work, friends, and/or girl/boyfriends distract them and take them away from this serious job they are supposed to be doing for you? (Sorry the service was down all afternoon, evening, and night on Friday as well as Saturday morning..I had a date and then slept in. or I can't believe I turned down a date with the girl of my dreams and ruined that opportunity for a fruitful relationship forever because I decided to sit home and upgrade a kernel instead.)

    Efficacy - Power or capacity to produce a desired effect; effectiveness.

    IF they appear to have it now, will their parents take that away, for whatever reason? Sorry son. That mistake you made was unexcusable and you're grounded from your computer. or Gee son, we love you so much and hate to see you wasting the most precious years of your life in front of that box. For your own good... to encourage you to get outside more, interact with others, and broaden your horizons, we are limiting your computer time to 2 hours per day max.

    I'd also really like to think responsible people would rather not put a young mind into a mode where they must decide between Fixing something for a client vs. Study for a test where the grade may have permanent affects on their future.

    If the child is focussed on the hosting industry would it not be better for them to become employed with a host that can utilize their services on a part (or in some cases full) time basis? In this way the child continues to enhance his skills in an industry he is dedicated to going into yet allows him time to continue his education and relationships without the risk of ruining his entire life before he's old enough for even a driver's license.

    If you're young, I would recommend going the route of obtaining a job in the industry you enjoy most rather than starting the company yourself. Your ability to earn an income is still there, and possibly you'll make even more. Your ability to build your skills in the area is still there, your ability to go on a date without the stress of it is there, and your risk of getting into serious trouble (as well as getting your parents into trouble. see accountability above) is avoided.

    My 20 cents...

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    It's a bad idea. While it may be the same result, it's the same concept as why a client wouldnt wanna hire a 14 lawyer even if he is good enough.
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    Btw im not saying its possible, it is, but there are other issues to look at aswell as the post posted by Deb
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    If clients know your age and are still willing to sign up I don't see a problem with it. Would you entrust a domain with important contact methods such as email to a 14 year old? However mature you can be at that age you're still missing one vital aspect: real life experience.

    Don't rush to grow up. You have over 50 years to act mature once school's done and I guarantee there'll always be another service industry like web hosting to get involved in at that time. Enjoy what youth provides: make friends, party (call it networking if you're a business nut), and play football.

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    If you really want to hire a kid, hire them to make you logos or webpages or templates or something. Have them script for you.

    Anyways, there's plenty of people with kids to feed that would love your business hosting.

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    A 14 years old person can't legally run a bussines.
    Yes they can, they cannot legally own a business though ( http://www.njdiscjockey.com ). I run a disc jockey company that I started last year (I'm 15 now), and the DBA is filed under my dad's name, so he technically owns the company, and he signs the contracts.

    I am responsible, and I DJ dances and parties in my spare time. I work my business around school, since it doesn't require me to be available 24/7/365, like a webhosting business would.

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    I really don't know how anyone in school could do it. I work 16-18hrs per day and i still think I could be doing more...I coudn't imaging that you would be able to provide effective service while going to school.

    Get your education first then come join the hosting world. You might realize it isn't really what ya wanna do. (not me though )
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    Originally posted by Jedito
    School sound to you?
    how about if the child do something wrong and his parents don't let him use the computer?
    A 14 years old person can't legally run a bussines.
    Actually they can run a business legally, I called up our business people here in utah, they said you can be any age and have a business license. What do kids do out of school? Some go skate boarding, some go out with friends, and some stay home on the computer. People may think they need a life besides sitting on the computer, well usually us teenagers don't care what you think. We like to do what we like to do. I started web hosting when I was 15, I am now 16 and by staying home on the computer every night I have learned a tremendous amount of knowledge. I do have a social life, student government, school, and lots of friends. I do business on the side preparing me for life. I have a business license for www.truji.net but I am unable to get a merchant gateway, I am in the process of having someone older sign up for me. Now, what if the teeanger did something bad and the parents got sued for it, any smart parent wouldn't just take their kid away from the computer. If they did then what happens to the customers? Most likely the parents will get sued some more, so most parents would legally shutdown the company before just banning their teenager from the computer. Anyways, those are my thoughts.
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    Why not hire the 14 year old doctor next time someone needs an operation?

    mainarea sounds like a responsible 15 year old. He understands he doesn't have the time run a business.
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    Originally posted by OverSkilled


    . . . . . . . .well usually us teenagers don't care what you think. . . . . . . .
    Well, another great reason why they shouldn't try running a business.
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    Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
    Why not hire the 14 year old doctor next time someone needs an operation?

    mainarea sounds like a responsible 15 year old. He understands he doesn't have the time run a business.
    Hey, there are 13 year olds that already have graduated from college.
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    Originally posted by OverSkilled


    Hey, there are 13 year olds that already have graduated from college.
    Yeh. There are retired people that never graduated Elementary School. So, what's your point?
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    What's wron with 14 year olds?
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    Hello,

    I believe first of all it's better to clarify if you mean a real hosting business or just being a reseller ?

    Cause if you look around the Reseller forum in WHT you'll find out most of them are teenagers. So that's totally different if that gentleman meant to be a web hosting reseller or running his business in real meaning.
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    My point is that you can be any age and do just about anything. A 13 year old can do a operation, may not do it right, but he still can, can't he? If you had some disease no other person knew how to cure besides a 10 year old, would you trust him?

    I hate when people doubt the younger generation.
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    Originally posted by HeadMaster
    Hello,

    I believe first of all it's better to clarify if you mean a real hosting business or just being a reseller ?

    Cause if you look around the Reseller forum in WHT you'll find out most of them are teenagers. So that's totally different if that gentleman meant to be a web hosting reseller or running his business in real meaning.
    What do you define as a real business? A reseller is a real business, the person collects money doesn't he/she? They provide customer support and all that junk. They provide the same products you do.
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    Like it was mentioned before, there's a difference between running and owning a business. Obviously, if a minor starts his own company, it would be a bumpy road, unless he has people to back him up. Most teenagers I believe are mature enough and often has the basic skills needed to manage a small business, only problem is that their daily lives might interfere.

    Imo, there's nothing wrong with a minor running their own businesses and try to get in touch with the real world and gaining experience. As long as they don't quit one day, and leave loose ends behind.
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    I wouldn't let a 13 year old kid perform an operation on me no matter how smart he is.
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    Call me old-fashion, but I think yard work and delivering newspapers is more suitable for a 14-year old.
    Kids need exercise at that age while their bones develop, and don't need to be sedentary on a computer for hours on end. They also need the outside world for developing their social skills.
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    Originally posted by OverSkilled
    My point is that you can be any age and do just about anything. A 13 year old can do a operation, may not do it right, but he still can, can't he? If you had some disease no other person knew how to cure besides a 10 year old, would you trust him?

    I hate when people doubt the younger generation.
    Nothing to do with doubting. Has to do with legalities and the fact that what seems great and wonderful now, looks entirely different in five minutes.


    Not to mention some kids that say things like, "Well, if I start a company, and it goes to pot, mom and dad will just disolve it for me." That is certainly not the kind of people that should be heads of companies.
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    Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
    Nothing to do with doubting. Has to do with legalities and the fact that what seems great and wonderful now, looks entirely different in five minutes.


    Not to mention some kids that say things like, "Well, if I start a company, and it goes to pot, mom and dad will just disolve it for me." That is certainly not the kind of people that should be heads of companies.
    Absolute stereotype, not all teenagers do that, and trust me, I know alot.
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    Did you read the thread? Did you see something like those words?
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    Originally posted by OverSkilled


    What do you define as a real business? A reseller is a real business, the person collects money doesn't he/she? They provide customer support and all that junk. They provide the same products you do.
    Dear friend,

    Real business is defined as:

    - Having a company/office, under a certain name.
    - Holding the business license as whether Inc. , LLC and etc.
    - Recruiting a group of professional staff in every field available, in the company, so that they may deliver unparalleled service and support to customers.
    - Having the bank account under the company's name.
    -.....
    -.....

    P.S: Not all of them are necessary.

    In anyway you can make money, but different between official business way and unofficial way.
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    Originally posted by Limbo
    ...trust me, I know alot.
    LOL... famous last words, and it sounds like something a teenager would say.
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    and?
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    Originally posted by Limbo
    and?
    14 year olds shouldn't be owning hosting "companies" or running hosting companies that are "owned" by their parents that don't have a clue what their kid does on the puter.
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    LOL! I emplore anyone under 17 that adds input into this thread to print this thread, seal the printout into an envelope and write on the envelope "DO NOT OPEN UNTIL 2015". File that envelope someplace very safe in a file that will go with you over the years.

    Read it then.... it'll make you laugh or cry at that time

    For even more fun... save it for your own kids to read to you when they are about to make a decision ... ahh the whiplash!!!
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    I suppose a 14 year old reseller wouldn't be terrible. Then you know that there really is someone knowledgeable and available behind the scenes at the server for any problems.

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    Sorry if my post was misleading, but it never mentioned anything about starting a hosting company on their own, or running their parent's business. I simply said not all teenagers are irresponsible and know nothing of the business world.
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