Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : VPS Hosting : Need Some Input on VPS Pricing Model

[hugdaba]

Need Some Input on VPS Pricing Model

Hey everyone. I'm deploying my first server tomorrow or friday to handle a few clients and their requests for a virtual private server.
I've come up with pricing models, bandwidth estimates, hardware profiles, network shaping, and different kinds of packages for accounts. But I am still curious to know what you think. I have listed below two of the packages that I will be offering to end-users, but I don't want to list pricing in fear of possible advertising reprimanding rules
5GB Disk (Total of 7GB for OS)
256MB DDR2-800 RAM
Equal Share of CPU (with no cutoff for excessive usage)
1 IP Address
1 Mbit Premium Bandwidth (Unmettered) upgradable to 2Mbit
Choice of OS: Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS
Going to primarily use Direct Admin for Control Panel but I am open to suggestions.
and also:
30GB Disk (34GB Total for OS)
1024MB DDR2-800 RAM
Equal Share of CPU (Also no limiting or cutting off for spikes or high usage)
1 IP Address (upgradable to 3 IP's)
2Mbit Premium Bandwidth (Unmettered)
Choice of OS: Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS
I would also like to offer dedicated 80GB and 160GB Hard drives to customer's who wanted dedicated I/O. But i need idea's on pricing and/or if thats marketable.
some feedback on your thoughts, suggestions, or anything else is more than accepted!





__________________
Lee






Last edited by hugdaba : 12-04-2008 at 12:57 AM.
Reason: typo's

[Matt - Kerplunc]

I recommend offering cPanel as well as DirectAdmin.
Also, you really need at least 2 IPs if you are going to do web hosting(one ip per dns entry, 2 minimum)





__________________
Matthew Hall ~ Kerplunc Hosting ~ matt@kerplunc.com
VPS Hosting ~ SuperBytes ~ DataBank(Dallas US) or Mountain Cable(Toronto CA)
Shared Hosting ~ Fanatical Host ~ DataBank(Dallas US)

[hugdaba]

yea, that wouldn't be a problem I've got a ton of IP's available. Is there a good reseller for cpanel over VPS that anyone knows of? If it's anything like direct admin pricing I will jump all over it.





__________________
Lee

[Matt - HostPenguin]

It all depends on a few factors..
Where is your datacenter located at? How many carriers do you have? Are you renting or purchasing the server? Do you own all your licenses or do you plan on renting? How much does it cost for you on harddrives, bandwidth, ip's, and etc? How much is your monthly total cost to operate the server?
As you can see their is a ton of things that need to be factored in and your the only one who can decide if this ship will fail.





__________________HostPenguin - Separate Yourself ● A Christian Owned and Operated Hosting Provider!● Shared, Reseller, Virtual Private Server Hosting and Website Integrationshttp://www.HostPenguin.net - http://Integration.HostPenguin.net - Sales@HostPenguin.net

[hugdaba]

***correction*** reseller of licenses for Cpanel over VPS, or is that something I'm am just going to have to go through Cpanel for?





__________________
Lee

[Matt - HostPenguin]

Quote:



Originally Posted by hugdaba


***correction*** reseller of licenses for Cpanel over VPS, or is that something I'm am just going to have to go through Cpanel for?


You typically can do this through your datacenter or purchase the licenses from an authorized reseller. One reseller that comes to mind is www.buycpanel.com .





__________________HostPenguin - Separate Yourself ● A Christian Owned and Operated Hosting Provider!● Shared, Reseller, Virtual Private Server Hosting and Website Integrationshttp://www.HostPenguin.net - http://Integration.HostPenguin.net - Sales@HostPenguin.net

[hugdaba]

Quote:



Originally Posted by Matt - HostPenguin


It all depends on a few factors..
Where is your datacenter located at? How many carriers do you have? Are you renting or purchasing the server? Do you own all your licenses or do you plan on renting? How much does it cost for you on harddrives, bandwidth, ip's, and etc? How much is your monthly total cost to operate the server?
As you can see their is a ton of things that need to be factored in and your the only one who can decide if this ship will fail.




Hi,
The server is mine that i have recently built, I am located in Alabama (which explains the low Mbit) , but I have made a very nice deal (or steal) with an ISP for premium bandwidth at least for this area. All of the software is already purchased for at 3 years, so the only thing I will actually have to pay for is replacement hardware when the time comes and the monthly bandwidth fee which I am about to drop 12 months of payment on. At the moment I only have one carrier (Sprint), and sorry but under disclosure I cannot tell you the deal I am getting, but lets just say a part-time job could pay for it easily and still afford gas here and there
Hope this helps a bit.
As for the licenses, are you talking about panel licensing or what?





__________________
Lee

[hugdaba]

Quote:



Originally Posted by Matt - HostPenguin


You typically can do this through your datacenter or purchase the licenses from an authorized reseller. One reseller that comes to mind is www.buycpanel.com .


not bad pricing honestly. I was expecting more from them, so this would be something I would be able to provide, but I just hate passing on more cost to the customer, but if they want it I guess they can pay for it.





__________________
Lee

[Matt - HostPenguin]

Quote:



Originally Posted by hugdaba


not bad pricing honestly. I was expecting more from them, so this would be something I would be able to provide, but I just hate passing on more cost to the customer, but if they want it I guess they can pay for it.


You could always purchase these licenses directly from cPanel at a Bulk Rate. I am not sure exactly on the numbers, as our licenses are purchased directly from our Datacenter. We do get a very nice discount and i'm sure your datacenter would be willing to do the same.
I did use Buycpanel.com for a short period of time, but had some issues with customer support, licenses coming unactivated, and etc. I am hopeful that these issues have been approved, but my first suggestion is to contact the DC.





__________________HostPenguin - Separate Yourself ● A Christian Owned and Operated Hosting Provider!● Shared, Reseller, Virtual Private Server Hosting and Website Integrationshttp://www.HostPenguin.net - http://Integration.HostPenguin.net - Sales@HostPenguin.net

[hugdaba]

Quote:



Originally Posted by Matt - HostPenguin


You could always purchase these licenses directly from cPanel at a Bulk Rate. I am not sure exactly on the numbers, as our licenses are purchased directly from our Datacenter. We do get a very nice discount and i'm sure your datacenter would be willing to do the same.
I did use Buycpanel.com for a short period of time, but had some issues with customer support, licenses coming unactivated, and etc. I am hopeful that these issues have been approved, but my first suggestion is to contact the DC.




You might laugh at this, but I am not actually in a DC, this is not a luxury in AL...lol...The only way i have a nice chunk of dedicated bandwidth is making a deal with one of the ISP bandwidth providers (Sprint) and being employed at an ISP as a datatech for the rackspace. So i dont have the option to buy from a DC, but the link you provided rested my worries a bit. so what I am looking at is:
$5/month for direct admin
$15/month for Cpanel (which I may have to eat some of that cost to get some people on it) I would surely hate to pass that on to a customer due to that being half of the cost of the lowest package I want to offer.





__________________
Lee

[m4dm4n]

$30 for your lowest plan? And your not a DC, so you'll have little to no cooling, no backup generators, probably not even a UPS.
I think your prices need to change. Don't worry about the cPanel or DA cost. Anyone who purchases a VPS and wants a Control Panel has to eat the cost + sometimes even a bit more so the host makes a profit.