
11-10-2008, 06:13 PM
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Hi all, especially Mike at LimeStoneNetworks.com...
I traced this sites:
Tracing route to vertualhost.com [69.162.111.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1161 ms 797 ms 839 ms <hidden>
2 673 ms 876 ms 821 ms <hidden>
3 574 ms 839 ms 881 ms 10.137.4.81
4 743 ms 863 ms 857 ms 10.137.4.42
5 661 ms 899 ms 779 ms <hidden>
6 570 ms 875 ms 840 ms <hidden>
7 774 ms 462 ms 784 ms <hidden>
8 544 ms 401 ms 359 ms <hidden>
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 831 ms 562 ms 539 ms so-3-1.hsa1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.78.205.157
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11 578 ms 557 ms 562 ms vlan52.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.62]
12 469 ms 460 ms 457 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.2
1]
13 683 ms 682 ms 576 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.78]
14 609 ms 581 ms 580 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.154]
15 567 ms 599 ms 557 ms ae-13-69.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.5]
16 592 ms 599 ms 618 ms LIMESTONE-N.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.71.120.66
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17 573 ms 558 ms 580 ms 1-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.203.1]
18 676 ms 581 ms 580 ms 6-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.203.6]
19 510 ms 577 ms 580 ms 74-201-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.201.74]
20 663 ms 580 ms 581 ms vertualhost.com [69.162.111.77]
Trace complete.
AND:
Tracing route to yourservers.info [69.162.111.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1414 ms 761 ms 664 ms <hidden>
2 1038 ms 1036 ms 680 ms 10.19.18.233
3 374 ms 1421 ms 376 ms 10.137.4.81
4 437 ms 1278 ms 1019 ms 10.137.4.42
5 1162 ms 783 ms 797 ms 10.145.176.130
6 525 ms 359 ms 377 ms 10.145.176.133
7 371 ms 378 ms 378 ms <hidden>
8 646 ms 420 ms 359 ms <hidden>
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * 4187 ms so-3-1.hsa1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
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11 1618 ms 1499 ms 2183 ms vlan51.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
12 658 ms 1522 ms 996 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net
7]
13 2261 ms 1458 ms 3320 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.1
14 1655 ms 2463 ms 1435 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.
15 1762 ms 1817 ms 2062 ms ae-13-69.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.
16 1718 ms 1340 ms 2638 ms LIMESTONE-N.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net
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17 2300 ms 455 ms 1739 ms 1-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.
18 1421 ms 420 ms 1978 ms 6-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.
19 461 ms 437 ms 599 ms 74-201-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63
20 541 ms 576 ms 581 ms hostingwitch.com [69.162.111.66]
Mike, how can they sell UNLIMITED ALPHA MASTER RESELLER to others?
Is that true that they are your customer?
All I know is, You do not sell unlimited space at limestonenetworks.com.
Are those sites cheaters or are the illegal? I did not find a specific or complete postal address or person name on those sites.
Actualy, not only two I found. but MANY!
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11-10-2008, 06:17 PM
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Junior Guru Wannabe
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Join Date: May 2008
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First server is with LimeStone, second is with FDCServers. They can sell "UNLIMITED" because they oversell.
You cannot rent a server with unlimited hard-drives.
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11-10-2008, 06:21 PM
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Web Hosting Master
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Buffalo NY
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Anyone can claim to offer unlimited resources - that doesn't mean its true 
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11-10-2008, 06:31 PM
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Dear m4dm4n.
Yes, I think so. rent or sell unlimited hard drive looks like impossible.
Oversell, what does it mean?
Is secure to be their customer / susbreseller?
Sorry for this stupid question.
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11-10-2008, 06:39 PM
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Junior Guru Wannabe
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Join Date: May 2008
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Dear m4dm4n.
Yes, I think so. rent or sell unlimited hard drive looks like impossible.
Oversell, what does it mean?
Is secure to be their customer / susbreseller?
Sorry for this stupid question.
Overselling simply means they are selling more then they actually have. IE, they might really only have 250GB usable space, but they offer their clients unlimited space in the hopes they don't all use more then 250GB.
Generally it's not a good idea to go after these types of companies as they usually have the most problems.
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11-10-2008, 06:46 PM
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Web Hosting Master
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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I would never trust a host like that. I pressed the order button (just to see) and it redirects me to yourservers.info.
Also, with a website design like that would definatly show that the people that run that host are inexperienced.
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11-10-2008, 06:50 PM
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they are selling more then they actually have. IE, they might really only have 250GB usable space, but they offer their clients unlimited space in the hopes they don't all use more then 250GB
Thanks m4dm4n.
That's what I call them as cheater like I thinked before.
They'll got a serious problem when their quota out of space  .
But, maybe not...
They will give stupid reasons for their unhappy customers...
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11-12-2008, 05:25 AM
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Web Hosting Evangelist
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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unlimited space is always a sort of a marketing gimick,try reading their legal agrement before signing up youll be surprised.
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11-12-2008, 05:33 AM
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Hosting Revolution
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Singapore
Posts: 4,100
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I guess the title should be chanegd as it may have negative impacts on LSN..
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11-14-2008, 09:05 AM
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I guess the title should be changed as it may have negative impacts on LSN..
I could not find edit link / button for the subject  .
Btw, That's a question, I did not write: "Limestone (LSN) Sells Unlimited Space but It Cheats!".
Hopeful everybody understand what I mean is.
Thanks Yoa!
Sorry men...
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11-14-2008, 09:15 AM
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Hosting Revolution
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Singapore
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I could not find edit link / button for the subject  .
Btw, That's a question, I did not write: "Limestone (LSN) Sells Unlimited Space but It Cheats!".
Hopeful everybody understand what I mean is.
Thanks Yoa!
Sorry men...
www.webhostingtalk.com/helpdesk
Open a ticket and get it settled.
From what you say, others may assume that it means LSN sells unlimited space to clients, if they did not read the story.
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11-14-2008, 09:38 AM
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A request has been sent to the mods, bro. Thanks.
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11-14-2008, 09:38 AM
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Web Hosting Evangelist
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 489
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Try leaving them a Ticket.
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11-14-2008, 11:22 AM
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I did.
They email me like this:
Hello ***,
It appears to me that the thread is an enquiry directed at Limestone about their sales policies. It seems it would be inaccurate to change the title to reflect Limestone's customers, when the thread is directed at them. The title, while certainly not neutral, isn't inappropriate relative to the contents of the thread. If you'd like to propose another title, please do, but it doesn't seem like "YourServers.info & HostingWitch.com Sell Unlimited Space! Is It Real?" will work.
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11-14-2008, 11:16 PM
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Hosting Revolution
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Singapore
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I did.
They email me like this:
Hello ***,
It appears to me that the thread is an enquiry directed at Limestone about their sales policies. It seems it would be inaccurate to change the title to reflect Limestone's customers, when the thread is directed at them. The title, while certainly not neutral, isn't inappropriate relative to the contents of the thread. If you'd like to propose another title, please do, but it doesn't seem like "YourServers.info & HostingWitch.com Sell Unlimited Space! Is It Real?" will work.
LOl.. Did they even read the contents..
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