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03-24-2009, 07:36 PM #26Aspiring Evangelist
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03-24-2009, 07:48 PM #27Junior Guru Wannabe
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I hope you guys can recover, really sorry to hear this. I haven't posted in a while, but I know this is a very highly valued forum.
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03-24-2009, 08:28 PM #29Web Hosting Master
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Thanks for the update and good luck with recovery!
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03-24-2009, 08:36 PM #30Dennis Johnson
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03-24-2009, 08:37 PM #31Dennis Johnson
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03-24-2009, 08:40 PM #32Dennis Johnson
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03-24-2009, 09:54 PM #33Disabled
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Good luck on this, I think the best solution right now as community members would just to keep posting and keep the forum alive as there is nothing we can do personally on our parts and of course bashing iNet will result to no gain.
Good luck on the restore.0
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03-24-2009, 10:06 PM #34Retired Moderator
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03-24-2009, 10:32 PM #36Web Hosting Master
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I am not sure if someone else speculated but I suspect this attack should have a hand from someone close to inet or server management team. This is because most of the time it is not revealed to anyone but a few people where the offsite backups are being placed. Looking at the way that attacker planned his attack, I suspect this _can_ be the case and should be considered by the concerned team.
In any case, we have been with WHT since long and we do understand that such things happen inspite of having good amount of security measures in place. Good luck with getting the backups restored.
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03-24-2009, 11:30 PM #39Aspiring Evangelist
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Once the bad guy gets nabbed and/or the databases are restored, I'm back with a vengeance. However at the moment I'm a bit skittish about the whole thing...this should be my 250+th post, not my 3rd. A lot of information was lost Too bad about the physical backups being hard to restore. I'm hoping you guys checked on restoring those in a test environment after you made them?
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03-24-2009, 11:33 PM #40Junior Guru Wannabe
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If you restored a more recent backup of the posts,threads and users database will the data added after the attack be lost ?
Or you will combine both databases some how ?0
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03-24-2009, 11:42 PM #41Dennis Johnson
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03-24-2009, 11:44 PM #42Dennis Johnson
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03-24-2009, 11:44 PM #43Web Hosting Master
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It is like the show 24 all over again Go Jack, Go!
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03-25-2009, 12:17 AM #45Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue
They got busted by going on IRC (newnet) and flaunting nasa.gov (and other) hosts :/
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03-25-2009, 02:17 AM #46Web Hosting Master
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I am sorry for this attack, some people can be #$%@. It is immature to say the least
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03-25-2009, 03:13 AM #47Web Hosting Master
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If I were iNET, I would had hired multiple experienced & excellent engineers to check on every single possible lead, as fast as possible.
Since WHT may be targetted by unhappy people, why not start searching from businesses who have many negative reviews and is very unhappy about it, always trying ways for them to be removed? That goes for users too.
You may be involved in the hacking! You are "The Prohacker"! Just kidding!
If thats the case, there is a chance that it is an insider job. However, judging from the case here, I will highly doubt that it is an insider job, as it seems to be planned well. Most likely the hacker is anticipating iNET to check on their staffs to see if it is an insider job, and after a long time, things may be harder to track and investigate, and the hacker can "escape".
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03-25-2009, 03:26 AM #48Retired Moderator
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03-25-2009, 04:15 AM #50Newbie
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Working with high-end corporate security for many years in the white-hat field, the answer seems obvious (when you followed the official information posted here on WHT).
One of the few persons who knew about the backup cluster was probably hacked/compromized initially. A well crafted email sent to the staff member possibly with the help of a malicious website is more than enough. Possibly even a stolen laptop without/with weak HDD encryption.
I'd issue them entirely new laptops for the time of the investigation. Prohibit them to access their past emails, confiscate the old laptops with the intent to do forensics on them. Although probably not deliberate on the part of the few staff members, the leak is highly likely to be found with one of them.
It's usually easy enough for a good hacker to get this kind of information. With the "right" level of determination and savviness - alternatively with enough money to "buy" the savviness - it's almost impossible to prevent in reality... That's when the physical backups become priceless.0