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  1. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Light View Post
    I can't profess to know exactly what is going on, or what iNet intend to do about it, but in my opinion it's better to keep the current WHT forums online at this time.
    I would guess that it's because of adverts, the amount they would lose through 24 hours of downtime would be so substantial that it's easier to deal with the embarrassment of looking like incapable fools by sticking up an out of date backup, than keeping it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrafile1 View Post
    ... What's going to happen to the new posts that are being made right now?
    We hope to be able to preserve them. But ... well ... technology, ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citricsquid View Post
    I would guess that it's because of adverts, the amount they would lose through 24 hours of downtime would be so substantial that it's easier to deal with the embarrassment of looking like incapable fools by sticking up an out of date backup, than keeping it down.

    You have to look past the fact that it looks like an "out of date backup."

    In reality it's not just a single backup, some tables in the database have been restored to just before the crash (PMs, Wiki, News etc.) and some have not yet been restored; they are either still restoring or they have additional issues which are being worked on.

    So it might look like iNet are being lazy, but in my opinion they're not. They allow you to access the services they have restored (PMs, Wiki etc.) and have restored all the posts that don't have issues. They will most likely, probably soon, update the other tables (such as posts, topics etc.) with the content from just before the crash.



    While you're waiting, why not add new content to the Wiki; which is at the state just before the crash (though the changes table doesn't seem to have been completely populated.)
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  4. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue View Post
    We hope to be able to preserve them. But ... well ... technology, ya know.
    As long as the new threads and post have a greater ID than before things went down, it'll work without problem.

    It does seem to be that way; auto_increment must have been preserved which is good news.
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  5. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyRo View Post
    Those tables probably didn't get corrupted
    Right. This only affected the post, thread and user tables.

    Only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue View Post
    Right. This only affected the post, thread and user tables.

    Only.
    I don't own the domain "cynical.me" for no reason - until I thought about the ad revnue / advertisers & the position iNet was in it seemed strange to put up a old database to only have any new posts / threads wiped (well in theory at least). Beyond that I didn't notice that only some of the tables were corrupted until someone pointed out the PM's were recent, while the threads were rolled back.

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  7. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhu View Post
    THEY DO HAVE PROPER BACKUPS PEOPLE!

    The backup server is OFFLINE. Once it's back, our forums are back.
    Thanks for reading the thread.

    As soon as I get a status on the backup servers, I'll let everyone know.
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  8. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue View Post
    Thanks for reading the thread.

    As soon as I get a status on the backup servers, I'll let everyone know.
    Can you explain in more detail what is wrong with the backup servers or backup server if you found out yet? Is it failed hardware, corrupt file system, etc. That will help clear up a lot things.
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  9. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEATi View Post
    ... I can't say anything until I see the full DBs restored.
    Neither can we. The one thing I understand about technology is that it's not infallible.
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  10. #235
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    Umm, WHT should NOT be online now. Hopefully it's turned down shortly.
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  11. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by tristanperry View Post
    Give advise to the hacker who's lost WHT $100s or $1000s in revenue, yeah that's a plan..
    Lmao, advise? No. If what he's said is true, then WHT deserve to lose money, they've potentially given away passwords which could well be root passwords for servers. Anyway, I don't for one moment believe these downloads really contain the info, that's why I won't open it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citricsquid View Post
    Lmao, advise? No. If what he's said is true, then WHT deserve to lose money, they've potentially given away passwords which could well be root passwords for servers. Anyway, I don't for one moment believe these downloads really contain the info, that's why I won't open it.
    You said for him to sort out the download limit?

    And they *do* contain real passwords and salts.

    Whilst I agree that WHT sound like they acted badly, you cannot know whether it was an easy or difficult hack.
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