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Old 10-11-2008, 05:02 PM
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Weird DNS Issue


Hi,

2 weeks ago I moved 3 websites from one host to another, I did so by transferring the sites and having the glue on the nameservers updated.

All fine until a couple of days ago. Suddenly the client, when entering one of her domain names, got an "account suspended" message. This was becuase I'd suspended the account on the old server. Then when I checked, I could access all the sites correctly but when I pinged one of the nameservers, it returned the old IP Address.

The next morning all seemed well, but one of the clients visitors tried to visit the site today and got the account suspended message again - does anyone have any idea of whats going on?

Thanks

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Old 10-11-2008, 07:25 PM
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Zones updated or glue not updated/propagated to all registries?

Helpful to post at least one domain to test thoroughly.

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Old 10-12-2008, 12:02 AM
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You updated the glue records, but did you update the definitions in the native registry, too?

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Old 10-12-2008, 05:30 AM
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Hi,

I didnt do the change personally, my domain registraar did - I rang them to check and they confirmed all seemed ok.

Sample domain is :

http://www.northern-pleasures.com

Any assistance gratefully received :-)

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Old 10-12-2008, 02:48 PM
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ns3/4.electrahosting.com glue isn't updated, and they don't have A records for themselves either.

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Old 10-12-2008, 02:56 PM
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Seems like your nameservers are unreachable at all at a time of writing:

http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dn...129e8536294019

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A timeout occurred getting the NS records from your nameservers! None of your nameservers responded fast enough. They are probably down or unreachable. I can't continue since your nameservers aren't responding.

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Old 10-12-2008, 04:36 PM
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Are these issues caused by the domain company not updating things correctly at their end, or is it a configuration issue with my hosting company?


According to my host they are having to rebuild Named at the moment, is this related?

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Old 10-12-2008, 05:40 PM
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Which are the new/proper IPs? 195.x.x.x or 80.x.x.x?

The 80.* don't answer now, the 195.* do, so I think they're the likely ones... the 80.* are still in glue, and in the additional I get from the 195... and other problems.

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Old 10-12-2008, 06:22 PM
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The 195* address is the old one.

The 80* address is the new one.

The 80* one has been down for 2 hours now due to an issue with the named service that apparantly requires a rebuild but I have no further updates on that.

I could do with tracking down where the problem is - ie with the domain company not updating the nameservers properly or with the hosts not configuring something on their server properly?

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Old 10-12-2008, 06:29 PM
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Glue is right then. Good.

Then the rest is hard to tell until named is working at the end servers.

You also need to have the IPs updated in the ns1/ns2.electrahosting.com then. That answer is strange, and also wrong - someone missed a period (never a good thing ;-P )

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ns3.electrahosting.com. 120 IN A 195.242.213.36

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
electrahosting.com. 120 IN NS ns1.electrahosting.com.electrahosting.com.
electrahosting.com. 120 IN NS ns2.electrahosting.com.electrahosting.com.

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Old 10-12-2008, 06:57 PM
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ns1.electrahosting.com and ns2.electrahosting.com point to a different server and are working correctly.

I'll repost once named is working (how long should that take? Its been 2 and a half hours now) and then hopefully we can get to the bottom of it - thanks for all your help!

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Old 10-12-2008, 07:44 PM
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Yes, they are different servers, but you shouldn't rely solely on the glue records - ns1 and ns2 should be giving out the proper A records (and those additional NS records are messed as well) for ns3/ns4 regardless. That should be fixed at least.

The rest we can see when the nameservers themselves are working.

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Old 10-13-2008, 01:36 AM
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Ok the server is working again now so hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.

So basically there needs to be a change for ns1 & ns2 in relation to ns3 & ns4 - where is this done, with the domain name company into the central registry or is this done on the server where ns1 and ns2 point to?

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Old 10-13-2008, 08:38 AM
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I found the offending A records at ns1/ns2 for the ns3/ns4 and changed them this morning, hopefully that will make things look a lot better!

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Old 10-13-2008, 08:41 AM
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Looks better, yes.

Still likely missing a period, or the NS records are made up wrong on ns1/ns2:

electrahosting.com. 120 IN NS ns1.electrahosting.com.electrahosting.com.
electrahosting.com. 120 IN NS ns2.electrahosting.com.electrahosting.com.

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