hosted by liquidweb


Go Back   Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : Colocation and Data Centers : Tier 1 or Tier 4 data center?
Reply

Forum Jump

Tier 1 or Tier 4 data center?

Reply Post New Thread In Colocation and Data Centers Subscription
 
Send news tip View All Posts Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 178
Question

Tier 1 or Tier 4 data center?


Which data center would you go for; Tier 1 or Tier 4?

theplanet.com is a Tier 1 data center.

layeredtech.com is a Tier 4 data center.



Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Southampton, UK
Posts: 1,023
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWUSER101 View Post
Which data center would you go for; Tier 1 or Tier 4?

theplanet.com is a Tier 1 data center.

layeredtech.com is a Tier 4 data center.
And what exactly are you basing that upon? Their marketing?

__________________
Regards,
Stephen Marsh

SSDHosting.io - Powerful UK SSD Hosting

  #3  
Old
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,419
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWUSER101 View Post
Which data center would you go for; Tier 1 or Tier 4?

theplanet.com is a Tier 1 data center.

layeredtech.com is a Tier 4 data center.

If you are referring to the uptime institutes classification system - I believe that this is a completely incorrect statement of their classes.

Layered tech is not really a DC - they are a service provider.

Theplanet as I can recall from visiting onsite to one of their data centers a few years back - is in fact a DC operator and a service provider but is definately more than a tier 1 - I would classify the one I visited as tier 2/3. It was well constructed.

To understand the classifications google for uptime institute tier rating. Its pretty good reading.

__________________
Dedicated Servers
WWW.NETDEPOT.COM
Since 2000

Sponsored Links
  #4  
Old
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 45
That totally depends of what you are trying to do...

  #5  
Old
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 178
well I'm asking because the theplanet.com specifically states on their website that they are a Tier 1 data center and layeredtech.com specifically states on their website that they are a Tier 4 data center.

I have read conflicting reviews online of which Tier is more reliable.

Based on several reviews I read, including that of The Uptime Institute, it seems layeredtech.com has a better network then theplanet.com, and thus why i asked.

Also take a look at the DATA CENTER CHART here.

So, what do you think?

  #6  
Old
Doh!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,336
Tier 1 is the lowest datacenter class and Tier 4 is the highest. However LT is not a DC but they colo in several Tier 2 and 3 DC's no tier 4's to my knowledge. The planet I think is all in Tier 2 and 3 as well. There are only a handful of true Tier 4 DC's around, not even rackspace is a Tier 4 DC.

__________________
Jason Silverglate jason [.at.] fortressitx.com
DedicatedNOW Managed Dedicated Servers / | 1-973-572-1070 support ext for 24/7 LIVE SUPPORT
Celebrating 12 years in business! Privately Owned Datacenter metro NYC Dark Fiber Ring and more!

  #7  
Old
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,419
The planet is not referring to their data center - they are referencing their network - so this is not an applicable comparison.

I dont know which facility LT is referring to - but I dont think Savvis plano or data bank are tier 4 - I know for a fact data bank is not - they are tier 2 in my opinion and I am pretty sure that savvis is either 2 or 3. I have been in both of these facilities. That does not make them bad - they are both good facilities - like another poster said - tier4 s very rare and is massive money - everything has to be fully redundant.

even tier 3 - you need redundant feeds on chilled water and electrical backbones and all the equipment must be dual powered and N+1 on most key systems.


Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWUSER101 View Post
well I'm asking because the theplanet.com specifically states on their website that they are a Tier 1 data center and layeredtech.com specifically states on their website that they are a Tier 4 data center.

I have read conflicting reviews online of which Tier is more reliable.

Based on several reviews I read, including that of The Uptime Institute, it seems layeredtech.com has a better network then theplanet.com, and thus why i asked.

Also take a look at the DATA CENTER CHART here.

So, what do you think?

__________________
Dedicated Servers
WWW.NETDEPOT.COM
Since 2000

  #8  
Old
Managed Hosting Expert
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: North Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 4,163
Read up on TIA 942...

Tier 4 requires dual active power and cooling paths i.e. 2(N+1) and is not affected by any kind of planned maintenance. Almost no DC's are built to that standard, the only DC's that are, are for use by banks, etc, where any kind of downtime could/would affect economic stability.

Dan

__________________
█ Dan Kitchen | Technical Director | Razorblue
█ ddi: (+44) (0)1748 900 680 | e: dkitchen@razorblue.com
█ UK Intensive Managed Hosting, Clusters and Colocation.
█ HP Servers, Cisco/Juniper Powered BGP Network (AS15692).



Last edited by dkitchen; 10-04-2008 at 09:53 PM.
  #9  
Old
Doh!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,336
The planets network isn't anywhere near Tier 1 at best it is Tier 3 most likely Tier 4 (when you speak about network Tier 1 is the highest, aka Sprint, Savvis, MCI/Verizon, Teir 2 Nlayer, Telia, etc..

__________________
Jason Silverglate jason [.at.] fortressitx.com
DedicatedNOW Managed Dedicated Servers / | 1-973-572-1070 support ext for 24/7 LIVE SUPPORT
Celebrating 12 years in business! Privately Owned Datacenter metro NYC Dark Fiber Ring and more!

  #10  
Old
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,276
Their are flaws in the DC tiering system. For example, you can run a DC with N+2 Cooling, Power, Generator which, under normal terms would be Tier 4, however unless the size of it is huge, you'll be tier 1-3. IMHO, the size shouldnt matter (Thats what she said?) but it is what it is.

__________________
James Cornman - jcornman@atlanticmetro.net
Atlantic Metro Communications - AS29838
Data Centers Managed Hosting Internet Access VMware vCloud Partner

  #11  
Old
Aspiring Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 391
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailor View Post
The planet is not referring to their data center - they are referencing their network - so this is not an applicable comparison.

I dont know which facility LT is referring to - but I dont think Savvis plano or data bank are tier 4 - I know for a fact data bank is not - they are tier 2 in my opinion and I am pretty sure that savvis is either 2 or 3. I have been in both of these facilities. That does not make them bad - they are both good facilities - like another poster said - tier4 s very rare and is massive money - everything has to be fully redundant.

even tier 3 - you need redundant feeds on chilled water and electrical backbones and all the equipment must be dual powered and N+1 on most key systems.
Me thinks they "loosely" refer to FastServers Iowa facility as the Tier4. Not saying that's right either, but just a guess.

  #12  
Old
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 71
Got to get clear that you are making an Apples to Apples comparison.

There are two different "tier" ratings being discussed here. Tier as in Data Center and Tier as in Network. Although the websites may very well talk about Tier 1 and Tier 4, I am confident they are talking about different Tiering.

Data center Tier ratings are Highest Number Best (like football), Network Tiers are lowest number best (like golf). Data center Tiering (Uptme Institute) is based primariy on Utility Redundancy, Network Tiering is based primarily on backbone sizing and peering locations (Level III is Tier I, American Fiber is Tier II).

Which of these you need is entirely dependent on your need for speed and guaranteed uptime. You will pay more for the finest, but if you need it, you need it.

Most people don't need either Tier III or Tier IV Data Centers, and unless you really need high speed, you don't necessarily need Tier I bandwidth (although I don't work with Tier II simply because of Customer impression that Tier I are really really superior, which in a lot of cases they are not).

  #13  
Old
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: denver
Posts: 9
Tiers are fairly simple with regard to data centers.
Tier 1 is basic and tier 3 or 4 would be very very advanced. Most of this is based on infrastructure. Power from redundant sources, multiple genrator systems available, redundant battery back ups to the redundant battery back ups etc etc etc

If you operate a business that can never go offline, you should go tier 3 or above. If you are just hosting company servers or applications, then maybe tier 3 space is a bit pricey for your needs.

The Planet is a colocation facility by the way, the other company may be a tenant who adds enhancements and can then charge you more for a better quality space with more features available.

  #14  
Old
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 71
Check this link http://www.webopedia.com/FIG/DATA_CENTER_CHART.jpg
for a look at a comparison of DC Tiers.

Gives you types and what it means to you re: performance.

  #15  
Old
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,419
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasB-ATLDC View Post
Check this link http://www.webopedia.com/FIG/DATA_CENTER_CHART.jpg
for a look at a comparison of DC Tiers.

Gives you types and what it means to you re: performance.
th tiering system is definately outdated and archaic at this point.

__________________
Dedicated Servers
WWW.NETDEPOT.COM
Since 2000

Reply

Related posts from TheWhir.com
Title Type Date Posted
Tier.Net Technologies Acquires Canadian Hosting Startup StablePages Web Hosting News 2014-09-18 11:06:40
Cloud Building Continues, as CenturyLink Acquires Tier 3 Web Hosting News 2013-11-19 10:24:07
Tier 3 Launches Self-Service Cloud Networking Features Web Hosting News 2013-08-16 12:47:38
Tier 3 Launches Global Cloud Object Storage with Automated Data Center Redundancy Web Hosting News 2013-06-19 12:44:58
Telx Set to Open Flagship Data Center in New Jersey Web Hosting News 2013-05-22 15:27:42


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Postbit Selector

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Login:
Log in with your username and password
Username:
Password:



Forgot Password?
WHT Host Brief Email:

We respect your privacy. We will never sell, rent, or give away your address to any outside party, ever.

Advertisement:
Web Hosting News:
WHT Membership
WHT Membership



 

X

Welcome to WebHostingTalk.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

WebHostingTalk.com is the largest, most influentual web hosting community on the Internet. Join us by filling in the form below.


(4 digit year)

Already a member?