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[allomani]

Hello,

i'm programming scripts using php and buy them as license for each domain

i was using zend gaurd for protecting them from stealing , but as everybody know zend now very easy to decoding .

i'm searching for the new way to keep our copyrights protected.

can anybody please help me?

Regards
Allomani

[Harzem]

There is ioncube, but I don't know how easy it is to decode, if possible at all.

[allomani]

the problem of ioncube that it's not supported in most hosting companies...

[Harzem]

But it has redistributable decoders. You simply add the decoder folder and everything works.

[FS - Mike]

Not always. I had trouble when installing WHMCS, the redistributables didn't work correctly and I had to compile PHP with IonCube in the end.

[Harzem]

Originally Posted by Coldkill

Not always. I had trouble when installing WHMCS, the redistributables didn't work correctly and I had to compile PHP with IonCube in the end.

I'm not exacty sure but it has different loaders for different PHP versions. Most people don't have problems, I'm not sure about the specifics.

[JustinSmall]

ionCube

It does come with free loaders/readers that will automatically install onto the clients server if it even has to it all

It supports licensing to certain domains, ip's, license keys, ect.

A big + to it: It's nearly impossible to decode...

amazing isn't it

Anyways, ionCube is the way to go

It can be expensive, but if your selling your software then you will easily earn it back.

[vibrokatana]

If there is a way people will break into it. Even with binary data (ie compiled executables) it is still relatively easy to get the code back (a bit not very easy on the eyes).

There isn't going to be a 100% way to protect your intellectual property. My guess is you should continue with zen guard (after all, you forked 300+ dollars for it).

[xoozoo]

As above it is normally very easy to use the different loaders, as long as it is php 5.2 or below and safe mode is *not* enabled you can dynamically include the loader, but since 5.2.5 you cannot do this and must include the loader in the PHP extension_dir folder - which means the host must do this for you.

The PHP encoders I see as contenders are...

IONCube.com
nusphere.com
sourceguardian.com

I would be interested to hear of any others or other users experiences of these.

Cheers,
Sean

[sasha]

Originally Posted by xoozoo

As above it is normally very easy to use the different loaders, as long as it is php 5.2 or below and safe mode is *not* enabled you can dynamically include the loader, but since 5.2.5 you cannot do this and must include the loader in the PHP extension_dir folder - which means the host must do this for you.

.... unless host allows per directory php.ini files in which case you can setup up your own extension_dir.

Anyway at $100 per year, ease of use, quick responses from tech support (which you really need only if you have some very odd situation going on), ability to transfer license from one machine to another - Ioncube is the winer (for me as least).

And last but not the least, What-is-his-name of Ioncube frequents this forum so you have more then one way to get his attention if you ever need to do so (not that I think it will ever be needed, but I reserve the right to post "ioncube suck$" thread here if I cannot get in touch with their support ).

[Harzem]

ioncube has an online encoder, which encode files with per-code-block pricing. Something around $5 for 10 pages of PHP code.

[allomani]

guys i heared that ioncube can decoded , and the best example Whmcs found nulled.

any explains?

[CodyRo]

Originally Posted by allomani

guys i heared that ioncube can decoded , and the best example Whmcs found nulled.

any explains?

No matter what it's going to be possible to decode it because it has to execute at some point (if it was encoded and couldn't be reversed, how would the PHP execute?).

IonCube and Zend Guard are going to be your best bets.

[allomani]

i tried to install ioncube on bluehost hostng account from cpanel , but it's not working

http://www.allomani.biz/ioncube/ioncube.php

[CodyRo]

It's likely BlueHost already has IonCube installed - I would inquire with their support / knowledge base.