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    Thumbs down Namecheap supports spammers

    Namecheap seems to be involved with a lot of organized crime groups. I get a ton of YIM SPIM from domains run by namecheap, and not matter how many invalid WHOIS data reports I file, namecheap refuses to take action against all the spammers.

    Also it seems that namecheap is in the business of spamming themselves.

    Today I got this YIM SPIM.
    olliesloan95: need a hint?eouyo http://gu%61ra%6e%74e%65dadul%74d%61%74i%6e%67%2ecom i have a profile on thisuhxgnsingles site gbksu

    http://gu%61ra%6e%74e%65dadul%74d%61%74i%6e%67%2ecom forwards to
    guaranteedadultdating.com which is a scam site administered by [email protected], which according to Richard Kirkendall above, expertcreations.com is owned by namecheap, so namecheap and Mr. Kirkendall seem to involved in an ongoing criminal enterprise that is hacking yahoo servers and sending out spam.

    Before doing biz with namecheap, you should also check out their rating with the better business bureau.

    I've sent namecheap numerous direct emails, ICANN whois reports, and support tickets, and namecheap is a spam friendly blackhat name register.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    Namecheap seems to be involved with a lot of organized crime groups. I get a ton of YIM SPIM from domains run by namecheap, and not matter how many invalid WHOIS data reports I file, namecheap refuses to take action against all the spammers.

    Also it seems that namecheap is in the business of spamming themselves.

    Today I got this YIM SPIM.
    olliesloan95: need a hint?eouyo http://gu%61ra%6e%74e%65dadul%74d%61%74i%6e%67%2ecom i have a profile on thisuhxgnsingles site gbksu

    http://gu%61ra%6e%74e%65dadul%74d%61%74i%6e%67%2ecom forwards to
    guaranteedadultdating.com which is a scam site administered by [email protected], which according to Richard Kirkendall above, expertcreations.com is owned by namecheap, so namecheap and Mr. Kirkendall seem to involved in an ongoing criminal enterprise that is hacking yahoo servers and sending out spam.

    Before doing biz with namecheap, you should also check out their rating with the better business bureau.

    I've sent namecheap numerous direct emails, ICANN whois reports, and support tickets, and namecheap is a spam friendly blackhat name register.
    Let me just try and understand you arguments as I read through all of your previous WHT posts, like at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=584687, have made wildly scathing accusations of other companies being in bed with spammers.

    Your comments suggestiong we're an "ongoing criminal enterprise that is hacking Yahoo servers and sending out spam" is laughable. Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? What you have said is bordering on libel so I suggest you retract your outrageous statements.

    As you will know if you actually have been in touch with our abuse department, any abuse ticket/email sent in will produce a ticket ID that we can reference and pull up the history. You are very welcome to send me that ticket ID via either email/PM if you wish to validate your claims. Otherwise you continue to make yourself look foolish by posting such outrageous allegations on a message board like this.
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    Of course it would be ideal to never have that transfer problem in the first place. But sh*t happens, so as long as the problem can be solved, it would be desireble that it was solved quickly on first support contact.

    But I'm glad to have Rick here, and that the problem was solved.

    I'm new on namecheap with only 1 domain yet, and seeing how he dealt with this scary transfer problem here, it gave them another positive point with me

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    First of all, nice job bumping a thread from 2005.

    Devilwolf, I highly suggest you take back your comments otherwise you will be hearing from our attornies. This is not something we will take lightly. This is my first and final warning to you.
    Richard Kirkendall
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    WHOIS DATA AS OF 2008/06/13 01:15:00
    REGISTRAR WHOIS:
    =-=-=-=
    Visit AboutUs.org for more information about xxxeroticpersonals.com
    <a href="http://www.aboutus.org/xxxeroticpersonals.com">AboutUs:
    xxxeroticpersonals.com</a>
    Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
    Contact: [email protected]
    Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/
    Domain name: xxxeroticpersonals.com
    Registrant Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith
    1main st
    Las Vegas, ST 89123
    US
    Administrative Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith ([email protected])
    +1.8885555555
    Fax: +1.
    1main st
    Las Vegas, ST 89123
    US

    ---------------------
    Hello ______

    This message is in follow-up to the Whois Data Problem Report you submitted on April 01, 2008 regarding xxxeroticpersonals.com. As indicated to you at the time of submission, a copy of your report was forwarded to the sponsoring registrar for investigation.


    I reported to ICANN that the whois is STILL inaccurate. So I'll make NC a deal, HC gets their whois data current, I'll leave NC alone, retract my posts, and I'll go take the spam problem up directly with NC's clients once NC does its duty and gets the true and accurate contact info as registered by your accreditation with ICANN.

    I've reported this and many others to namecheap thru proper ICANN channels at
    http://wdprs.internic.net/
    that are registered to the same fake address.

    onenitehookups.com - reported 4/14/08
    xxxeroticpersonals.com - reported 4/1/08
    and many more.

    I'm sure if you search, you find a lot more domains registered to
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith ([email protected])
    +1.8885555555
    Fax: +1.
    1main st
    Las Vegas, ST 89123
    US


    Why don't have you lawyers contact "Chuck Smith" and tell him to stop using your services to engage in violations of federal and state criminal and civil codes that make your firm look like your are a spammer support service.

    Since I'm sure "Mr. Smith" is paying NC, NC probably has some real contact info for "Mr. Smith". Unlike myself and thousands of other victims of his spamming and harassment (getting 10 to 20 porn SPIMs a day is not advertising, its harassment).

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    No deals are going to be made here. You were warned.
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    Maybe you can explain this to the studio audience...

    Yesterday I was SPIM SPAMED with a ad for the domain
    guaranteedadultdating.com
    Yesterday, guaranteedadultdating.com was registered to:

    Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
    Contact: [email protected]
    Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/

    Domain name: guaranteedadultdating.com

    Registrant Contact:
    admin
    admin admin

    admin
    admin
    admin, ST 00000
    US

    Administrative Contact:
    admin
    admin admin ([email protected]**cre**ons.com)
    +1.555555555
    Fax: +1.555555555
    admin
    admin
    admin, ST 00000
    US


    Now in regards to the contact email
    [email protected]**cre**ons.com.com did you just say a few posts above that e**cre**ons.com.com is owned by Namecheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    Okieboy,

    FYI that is the name of our company that incompasses all our companies including NameCheap.com
    Now today.... guaranteedadultdating.com is registered to our friend Mr. Smith in Las Vegas.

    Isn't that strange... You are Richard, and the spammer domain was originally registered with admin email of [email protected]**cre**ons.com.com.

    You claim that e**cre**ons.com.com is owned by Namecheap in a previous post.

    Now I realize Richard is a common name, how many Richard's work for namecheap?

    And why did the registration of the domain change to a fake address in Las Vegas after I posted about it here?

    If you google guaranteedadultdating.com since this domain was created, it has been spammed all over the net using bot's in a campaign of false and deceptive advertising and unethical business practices such as blog spamming, guestbook spamming, etc.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=guara...ient=firefox-a
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    When the domains were registered the account was placed on hold for a fraud check and during that time the domains were moved to our holding account. After the account was re-opened the domains were pushed back and the whois info not updated.

    You sir are going to have bigger things to worry about than being an internet vigilante. This thread has already been forwarded to my attorney. You will not be getting away with making these comments about our company.
    Richard Kirkendall
    NameCheap.com

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    DevilWolf,

    At the end of the day, eNom is the Registrar per WHOIS, Why not just complain to them:

    Registrar: ENOM, INC.

    For complaints : http://www.enom.com/help/abusepolicy.aspx

    That way you leave it to the Registrar to sort out, Richard at NC doesn't get the hump, and you should receive a resolution to your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    When the domains were registered the account was placed on hold for a fraud check
    Great Fraud check...
    This address is obviously not fake or fraudulent
    Administrative Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith ([email protected])
    +1.8885555555
    Fax: +1.
    1main st
    Las Vegas, ST 89123
    US

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    Great Fraud check...
    This address is obviously not fake or fraudulent
    Administrative Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith ([email protected])
    +1.8885555555
    Fax: +1.
    1main st
    Las Vegas, ST 89123
    US
    Anyone can update their contact information at any time. Whatever they did during the fraud check obviously passed.

    I also checked our help desk for any tickets involving the above mentioned domains and there were none as you have claimed.

    Regardless, this has nothing to do with spam, you made pretty harmful accusations and statements against our company and myself. You can explain the rest in court and to your attorney.
    Richard Kirkendall
    NameCheap.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by netearth View Post
    DevilWolf,

    At the end of the day, eNom is the Registrar per WHOIS, Why not just complain to them:
    I have been working with Demand Media (eNOM's owners) in regards to this. But yesterday the spammer was a little too quick on the gun, and started spamming before Richard had a chance to remove his email from the domain.

    Did a search, and that lead me back here.

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    Devilwolf I agree we must fight spam hardly, but aren't you attacking the wrong person?

    IMO the worst ppl are the ISPs that let spammers spam freely, because today with spamhaus it is pratically impossible to spam from dynamic IP and/or without ISP help.

    I myself don't think its healthy that registrars take action against spam, because domains are very important to us and little important to spammers, maybe somehow important to companies that pay for spammers to spam their products.

    So, IMHO, you should fight spam attacking hosts, ISPs and companies that profit from spam, report spam to SpamCop, etc.

    If registrars start taking action against spam, faithless ppl can fraud spam on our name and spoof registrars making them think we are spammers, so that they give our domains to complainer. That's very risky, and I'd not register my domains on a registrar that take ppl's domains on first spam complain.

    Why don't you buy MailWasher to deal with your spam, report it to SpamCop and send bounce to the spammer think that your email is invalid? Using MailWasher all this is easy and fast to do and spam makes very little harm to you.

    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    I have been working with Demand Media (eNOM's owners) in regards to this. But yesterday the spammer was a little too quick on the gun, and started spamming before Richard had a chance to remove his email from the domain.

    Did a search, and that lead me back here.
    Wow....you just opened yourself up to a big lawsuit by doing what you have done. Just bad form to make such accusations without definitive evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari View Post
    Devilwolf I agree we must fight spam hardly, but aren't you attacking the wrong person?
    I myself don't think its healthy that registrars take action against spam, because domains are very important to us and little important to spammers, maybe somehow important to companies that pay for spammers to spam their products.
    ICANN rules state that registers have to get and maintain accurate WHOIS info. If they are advised that the info is NOT accurate, they have to contact the client to get accurate info.

    I'm not asking NC or ENOM or Moniker to take action against the domain JUST for spamming, but for spamming AND having fake whois info (or allowing a spammer to hide behind a whoisguard).

    If guaranteedadultdating.com was registered with a legit address, I would not bother NC, I would just contact the Attorney General for the state where guaranteedadultdating.com is located and file a variety of civil and criminal complaints against them directly at the state and federal level.

    ICANN rules do say that domains have to be registered with accurate and current contact info. Also Namecheap's TOS says the same

    6. Account Information and Its Use.

    a. Information You Are Required to Submit. As part of the registration process, you are required to provide certain information and to update this information promptly as needed to keep it current, complete and accurate. The information you are obligated to provide in connection with the domain name you are registering is the following:


    See those parts in BOLD????

    Its doesn't say "you may provide us with fake contact so that angry consumers can't contact you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    I'm not asking NC or ENOM or Moniker to take action against the domain JUST for spamming, but for spamming AND having fake whois info (or allowing a spammer to hide behind a whoisguard).


    Ah ok, understood now.

    In this case of spam that's a sad think that you can't get spammer info, but it is also a good opportunity to see how NameCheap deals when requested to reveal registrant info. Another positive point to them
    (ppl leaving on Brasil understand what I'm saying )

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    It is a positive that they do not comply with ICANN's, eNOM's or their own TOS?

    If a company doesn't honor its contractual obligations and advertised terms of service that is a positive point?

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    That happens on every contat at Brasil, and protect our privacy from censors, corruptors and torturers in general is necessary for us

    Like somebody said, under democracy you say the truth, under dictatorship and tyranny you must lie to survive!

    But back to topic. Or better, I think it should be left to get old again...

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    DevilWolf,

    How do you know spam is coming from a domain hosted at nemecheap?
    You haven't provided any evidence of this spam.


    and lastly it's not the registrars job to take action against spammers.
    I could tell you a joke about UDP. But I'm not sure you would get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    If a company doesn't honor its contractual obligations and advertised terms of service that is a positive point?
    Devilwolf, enetwork said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    Anyone can update their contact information at any time. Whatever they did during the fraud check obviously passed.
    If the registrant indeed passed NameCheap's security checks, then they passed. I guess the question here is did NameCheap indeed fulfill their contractual obligations, which it currently seems they did.

    Now, I can put a do-not-step-on-my-grass sign on my lawn, and obviously you won't be allowed to step on my grass. If my friend hops over my place and steps on my grass while I walk to greet him, do you get to say to me and my friend, "Hey, don't step on that guy's grass!", given it's my grass and my sign and my say on who gets to do so or not?

    (I got that analogy from a lawyer who specializes in this stuff, and it seems appropriate in this discussion.)

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    Devilwolf,
    this is probably the wrong way to go about this, irrespective of the rights & wrongs of 'everything'.

    Sort this out either privately or in court, don't try to do it in a public forum, amongst other things, you'r leaving yourself wide open to being sued yourself.

    I trust you have good & easy access to a lawyer/atterny, because I'm sure,
    the 'Big Boys' here will have.

    I'm inclined to think, any 'wrongs' would be better takled by working together, rather than against each other, but that's very much simply a personal opinion.
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    Why would someone sue over something posted in a forum? Quit crying and get over it.

    I would leave any host who sues for slander.
    I could tell you a joke about UDP. But I'm not sure you would get it!

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    As a registrar I'd be concerned that someone's using false information for their registration. We've cancelled domains (as one would perhaps expect) for such transgressions. And they're not always reported via ICANN or our help desk. When we become aware, regardless of the source, we deal with it because we're supposed to.

    Sadly, as I write this, the contact info for GuaranteedAdultDating.com is still obviously false.

    Commenting on or about what may or may not be libel -- that's for the courts to decide -- in a public forum doesn't seem to be appropriate for all of us third parties; that's between DevilWolf and NameCheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post
    As a registrar I'd be concerned that someone's using false information for their registration. We've cancelled domains (as one would perhaps expect) for such transgressions. And they're not always reported via ICANN or our help desk. When we become aware, regardless of the source, we deal with it because we're supposed to.

    Sadly, as I write this, the contact info for GuaranteedAdultDating.com is still obviously false.

    Commenting on or about what may or may not be libel -- that's for the courts to decide -- in a public forum doesn't seem to be appropriate for all of us third parties; that's between DevilWolf and NameCheap.
    Domainitor,

    Thanks for showing the professional courtesy and jumping in this thread and telling us just how great you run your business. Next time try doing it while not advertising yourself in your signature. Since you supposedly like to follow the rules, how about you start following the rules at webhostingtalk?

    We haven't updated the information because unlike this poster claims, we never received a complaint from him directly. Enom is currently the official registrar of the domain and if he submitted anything to ICANN they would have received it directly and if they did they have yet to notify us. So in a nutshell, we have received absolutely zero evidence of spamming. Unlike other registrars, we investigate complaints we receive and we give our clients ample time to respond. Unless it's something obvious like a phishing site, we will not shut down a domain first and ask questions later. We'll leave that up to the likes of you.
    Last edited by enetwork; 06-15-2008 at 08:10 AM.
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    Now, now, folks. One can argue it's trying to advertise your services (in a subtle yet acceptable way according to forum guidelines, perhaps) while another can argue it's giving one's opinion on the matter, but that's for the forum mods to decide.

    While on the subject of invalid WHOIS, and just for fun, look up that of worldteleportdotorg. Supposedly it's been using the same information for...get this...six years and still counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    Domainitor,

    Thanks for showing the professional courtesy and jumping in this thread and telling us just how great you run your business. Next time try doing it while not advertising yourself in your signature. Since you supposedly like to follow the rules, how about you start following the rules at webhostingtalk?

    We haven't updated the information because unlike this poster claims, we never received a complaint from him directly. Enom is currently the official registrar of the domain and if he submitted anything to ICANN they would have received it directly and if they did they have yet to notify us. So in a nutshell, we have received absolutely zero evidence of spamming. Unlike other registrars, we investigate complaints we receive and we give our clients ample time to respond. Unless it's something obvious like a phishing site, we will not shut down a domain first and ask questions later. We'll leave that up to the likes of you.
    Whoa! Richard! That wasn't an attack. Don't personalize it and don't be so defensive. If anything, it's eNom's issue, not yours.

    I can understand that you'd be annoyed - to say the least -- by DevilWolf's comments. I would be, too.

    My comments had nothing to do with their alleged spamming. I was only talking about their breaching the registrar-registrant contract by providing obviously false or incorrect information.

    But your attack was unnecessary; we don't "shut down a domain first and ask questions later." That would be irresponsible. And we're supposed to be responsible, right?

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    Hello Domainitor,

    This quote here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post
    As a registrar I'd be concerned that someone's using false information for their registration. We've cancelled domains (as one would perhaps expect) for such transgressions. And they're not always reported via ICANN or our help desk. When we become aware, regardless of the source, we deal with it because we're supposed to.

    Sadly, as I write this, the contact info for GuaranteedAdultDating.com is still obviously false.
    Came across as you were saying that we were not doing our job because the whois has not been updated. Anyways, you are right and I should not have taken this personally and for that I apologize. We've had a rough week around here and the thread starter coming here and accusing of us of being involved in organized crime and the hacking of Yahoo was just the icing on the cake. I know it comes with the territory of growth but I am trying my very best to avoid falling into the trap of not caring about our reputation. I've seen it happen to others and I will not allow it to happen to us.

    Either way I understand where you were coming from so again, please accept my apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zan View Post
    Now, now, folks. One can argue it's trying to advertise your services (in a subtle yet acceptable way according to forum guidelines, perhaps) while another can argue it's giving one's opinion on the matter, but that's for the forum mods to decide.

    While on the subject of invalid WHOIS, and just for fun, look up that of worldteleportdotorg. Supposedly it's been using the same information for...get this...six years and still counting.
    I think that particular little spat is over, both maybe reacting to a 'Long Week'.

    However I was just going to add that, you can always use the 'report' button. Sometimes just thinlking about using the button, is enough to 'calm oneself down' a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    ... Either way I understand where you were coming from so again, please accept my apologies.
    No apology needed. We've all had our share of rough weeks, unreasonable customers, and misdirected vigilantes and I empathize 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    We've had a rough week around here
    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post
    We've all had our share of rough weeks, unreasonable customers, and misdirected vigilantes and I empathize 100%.
    Got my fair share of that, too. A few anyone?

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    I call bullpuckey. Namecheap has been decent for the bulk of my small collection of domain names. I've always seen them to be professional at their jobs, as well to have a good reputation here at WHT. That they resist attempts to stampede them into arbitrarily yanking domain names at the drop of a pin, as is the manner of certain registrars, speaks well of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    Namecheap seems to be involved with a lot of organized crime groups. I get a ton of YIM SPIM from domains run by namecheap, and not matter how many invalid WHOIS data reports I file, namecheap refuses to take action against all the spammers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan541 View Post
    DevilWolf,

    How do you know spam is coming from a domain hosted at nemecheap?
    You haven't provided any evidence of this spam.


    and lastly it's not the registrars job to take action against spammers.
    Under ICANN rules, a register or their agent has to maintain accurate and current contact info.

    Here is the evidence of the spam (see attachment) and the text

    ougpoole81 is currently not in your Messenger List.
    Report as Spam (Alt+Shift+R)

    dougpoole81: roqvz bf_ct gotta sec? ilapf
    Diaboluslupus: who is this?
    dougpoole81: yeybeHey bf_ctopgnhU remember me?hefis
    Diaboluslupus: I've asked two times to stop harassing me. Cease and desist at once. Any unauthorized use of Yahoo! computer systems is a violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service, Universal Spam Policy, and certain federal and state laws, including the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (18 U.S.C. § 1030 et seq.), Section 502 of the California Penal Code, and Section 17538.45 of the California Business and Professions Code. Such violations may subject the sender and his or her agents to civil and criminal penalties.
    dougpoole81: oujufit's me Nicole!fjqiv
    Diaboluslupus: Any unauthorized use of Yahoo! computer systems is a violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service, Universal Spam Policy, and certain federal and state laws, including the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (18 U.S.C. § 1030 et seq.), Section 502 of the California Penal Code, and Section 17538.45 of the California Business and Professions Code. Such violations may subject the sender and his or her agents to civil and criminal penalties.
    dougpoole81: egehdmy girls & I are looking for some fun 2nitejcnkvwanna join us?!!etjjc
    Diaboluslupus: Any unauthorized use of Yahoo! computer systems is a violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service, Universal Spam Policy, and certain federal and state laws, including the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (18 U.S.C. § 1030 et seq.), Section 502 of the California Penal Code, and Section 17538.45 of the California Business and Professions Code. Such violations may subject the sender and his or her agents to civil and criminal penalties.
    dougpoole81: wordpmeet lonleysxtfowomen 2night http://%73%75peradult%64%61%74%69%6e%67.c%6f%6d fapuy

    http://%73%75peradult%64%61%74%69%6e%67.c%6f%6d fapuy
    resolves to
    superadultdating.com

    whois data
    Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
    Contact: [email protected]
    Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/

    Domain name: superadultdating.com

    Registrant Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith

    1main st
    Las Vegas, NV 89123
    US

    Administrative Contact:
    Biz.biz
    Chuck Smith ([email protected])
    +1.8885555555
    Fax: +1.5555555555
    1main st
    Las Vegas, NV 89123
    US

    If you want, I can post a few dozen more screen shots, or even a spreadsheet that lists each SPIM, what site is advertised, who the register is, who the ISP, the referral link, etc.

    This Spammer has been hammering my YIM acct for the last 6 months. SPAM is a civil violation. SPIM is a criminal act because the SPIMMER has to hack into yahoo's servers to send SPIM.
    He has even been written about on ZDNET
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=6833

    Anyways after sending a nasty email to eNOM's owners they have decided to take down these sites, instead of threatening to sue me. But the spammer seems to have a lot of domains left to use, which as I keep sending these to Demand Media's legal department they are probably gonna be getting annoyed and concerned about the cost of dealing with this mess.

    Sending unsolicited porn ads to random YIM accts could result in COPA violations. (Providing obscene material to minors, as the spam advertised sites have very graphic splash screens, and use scripts to try and keep you from navigating away from the site.

    Also according to ENOM's reseller TOS, their agents do have to take action against spammers:
    Suspension or Termination of the Services. The Backend Service Provider reserves the right to suspend performance of the Services or to preclude use of or access to the Technology if any of the following occur:
    "If you or your customers fail to abide by customary industry acceptable use policies and all governing and applicable laws."

    Spam is against "customary industry acceptable use policies"

  33. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    Also according to ENOM's reseller TOS, their agents do have to take action against spammers
    It does say eNom reserves the right to suspend use or access of their services if A, B or C occur, of which C is what you emphasized in your previous post. But read through it again and see if it specifically say eNom's resellers have to take action against spammers.

    Feel free to check with a competent contract lawyer on that. Don't be disappointed if your interpretation turns out to be inaccurate.

  34. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zan View Post
    It does say eNom reserves the right to suspend use or access of their services if A, B or C occur, of which C is what you emphasized in your previous post. But read through it again and see if it specifically say eNom's resellers have to take action against spammers.

    Feel free to check with a competent contract lawyer on that. Don't be disappointed if your interpretation turns out to be inaccurate.
    You are probably right, but from the intent seems to be "run a clean ship, or we'll boot you.".

    I understand that spammers are an important source of income for a lot of large and small internet infrastructures companies. Just because it is profitable, doesn't mean its right or shows good corporate citizenship. It also exposes one to civil and criminal liability under the doctrine of contrived ignorance.

    A lot of registers and resellers play the contrived ignorance game. They delete domains, hosting and email accts (eventually) but never take action against the client because of the revenue that such a client generates as they keep registering new domains/email/hosting to spam with.

  35. #35
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    Anyone can advertise anything via spam I could send a million emails linking to NameCheap.com but it doesn't mean NameCheap has anything to do with it.

    You can't prove that superadultdating.com is a spammer just because their site appears in spam. (altho the odds don't favour them)

    Secondly, this is between yahoo and the person abusing their network I fail to see how namecheap is accountable for any of this they aren't even the registrar. My whois tells me that ENOM is the registrar.
    http://danscomp.net/whois/index.php?...ean=1&hilite=1
    I could tell you a joke about UDP. But I'm not sure you would get it!

  36. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwolf View Post
    It also exposes one to civil and criminal liability under the doctrine of contrived ignorance.
    Look up Communications Decency Act. And as enetwork said:

    Quote Originally Posted by enetwork View Post
    Enom is currently the official registrar of the domain and if he submitted anything to ICANN they would have received it directly and if they did they have yet to notify us. So in a nutshell, we have received absolutely zero evidence of spamming. Unlike other registrars, we investigate complaints we receive and we give our clients ample time to respond. Unless it's something obvious like a phishing site, we will not shut down a domain first and ask questions later.
    Now, eNom could pass the buck to NameCheap for those in their reseller account. But...apparently they haven't for whatever reason.

  37. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zan View Post
    Look up Communications Decency Act. And as enetwork said:



    Now, eNom could pass the buck to NameCheap for those in their reseller account. But...apparently they haven't for whatever reason.

    Thanks Dave,


    And that still doesn't resolve the fact that DevilWolf here just flat out lied to everyone in this thread and said he emailed us directly regarding the domains he mentions here.

    I wonder just how many other things he's lying about to accomplish whatever he is trying to.

    He's probably just trying to get a competitor shut down.
    Richard Kirkendall
    NameCheap.com

  38. #38
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    I think you waste your energy for this whois info. I think the domain owner have a right to do anything about his domain as long as the services paid with legit money.
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    Asep

  39. #39
    Actually I did file a support ticket on your site. The ticket was closed with no action and no response. I re-opened it, and it was closed again without action.

    I've gone thru all the proper channels with your firm. I've contacted your abuse desk. I've filed ICANN Whois data problem reports. I've contacted your company thru the better business bureau 1/16/2008. Even tried calling a few times, but no one ever answers your phone.

    Here is the response I got from the BBB

    Subject: Re: Complaint against Namecheap.com
    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:00:32 -0700
    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    Thread-Topic: Re: Complaint against Namecheap.com
    Thread-Index: AciN8hj/hmbKBu82T/mUkwNnpkU5Sg==
    From: "Priscilla Muniz" <[email protected]>
    To: <080316namecheap@_________________>
    X-Nonspam: None


    Mr. ____,


    We have received your recent correspondence in regards to your complaint. We have contacted the company twice with your complaint and they have failed to respond on both occasions. Unfortunately, we are unable to pursue your complaint any further, as it appears the company is just not willing to work with us. Because they are not members of the Better Business Bureau, they are not obligated to respond. Your next step would be to take legal action against the company. You may also wish to contact your State’s Attorney General’s Office and/or the Federal Trade Commission at: (877) 382-4357 for further assistance. Please keep in mind that your complaint will stay on the company’s record and be reported for the next 3 years. Thank you.


    Priscilla Muniz
    Internet Services
    Better Business Bureau of the Southland
    Phone: (909) 825-7280
    Fax: (909) 825-6246
    [email protected]

    I accept what people are saying. Namecheap has no obligation to take action against its clients who register domains under fake names and use those domains to harass thousands of Yahoo IM users.

  40. #40
    Richard,

    I would suggest talking to a lawyer and begin steps to take action. Obviously you have an internet vigilante here who is only going to keep trashing your name more. Once his parents get hit with a lawsuit I'm sure they'll make him stop.

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