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05-19-2008, 12:07 AM #1Web Hosting Guru
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Starting a mini datacenter
I would like to start a small datacenter within my home, i have about 10 dells server, and i was talking with XO about getting a 100mbits.
What are the steps i would need to start?
What are the equipment i would need?
Thanks
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05-19-2008, 12:12 AM #2Retired Moderator
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I think this will be better discussed at the Colocation Forum. Moved.
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05-19-2008, 12:19 AM #3Managed Service Provider
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Step 1) don't do it.
What about cooling? What about UPS? What about gensets?
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05-19-2008, 12:21 AM #4Web Hosting Guru
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Just a small 1 i dont need 100% uptime, i just would like to know wheat i would need.
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05-19-2008, 12:54 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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i'm interested on how this will continue. so my thought you will need:
1. one dedicated room for server room (of course you don't want to hear the server noise when you sleep)
2. good Air Cond. to cool down your servers.
3. generator with enough power to power up your servers.
4. UPS
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05-19-2008, 01:00 AM #6Web Hosting Guru
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Ok, now how would i get bandwith to the server? i just contacted XO for a price quote
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05-19-2008, 01:24 AM #7Retired Moderator
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I think after all the calculations it is still cheaper getting a cabinet/rack in a local datacenter.
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05-19-2008, 01:28 AM #8Disabled
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Why not just get a full or half cab from a colo provider, and start building there?
If you really want to do this, you're going to need a switch. Cisco equipment's recommended. A good one is going to cost you a pretty penny.
Does your home have any fiber in it?
How reliable is the power in your neighborhood?
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05-19-2008, 02:00 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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I think getting fiber in your house is going to be far too costly for this to make sense.
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05-19-2008, 02:52 AM #10Web Hosting Evangelist
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Sorry, I know everybody's trying to be helpful here and actually give advice, but I'm going to have to be the turd in the punchbowl and break it to the OP that turning your home into a datacenter will not work out as well as you think it will.
I'd start off by getting a rack for the 10 Dell servers. Depending on who your current internet provider is, you could upgrade to Business-class cable, in which case you could get a netblock for your servers and you'll actually be allowed to host servers on your connection.
If by some miracle XO actually agrees to put a fiber drop in your house, then you'll need to get a nice beefy router. I'd suggest Cisco Catalyst hardware - the 4000s and 5000s accept fiber uplink s and CIDR. The latest 4000 models also support BGP if you ever decide to multihome.
Again, sorry to be the turd in the punch bowl, but 100Mbit to a residence is something that no provider would never do for somewhat decent price."When a man begins to doubt himself, he does something incredibly stupid and thereby is reassured."
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05-19-2008, 08:57 AM #13Web Hosting Guru
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Thanks for the input, i was talking with xo and the price they gave me was $6 per mbit with minimum 100mbits
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05-19-2008, 09:28 AM #14Web Hosting Evangelist
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6 per mbit with 100min == where do I sign up, our local cable for a fiber into our office quoted us about 100 a meg with a 20meg commit..but they would pay all the fees to get the fiber to us if we signed a 2year contract -- we just wanted it for steady uptime on our connection.. but damn that is very inexpensive....
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05-19-2008, 09:41 AM #15Custom Hosting Master
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The more you commit to, the cheaper price you can get, and it also depends on the quality of the provider.
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05-19-2008, 10:11 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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So, if this is true, and I'm assuming this is with at least one year contract. You're looking at $600/Month in bandwidth alone. Not to mention the cost of electricity, which prices have risen, and you're looking at having servers pull power 24/7. Plus cooling.
Also, pray you don't get a DDOS attack.
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05-19-2008, 10:15 AM #17Web Hosting Guru
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Is that quote from XO with "installation" fees included?
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05-19-2008, 10:20 AM #18Managed Service Provider
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XO loves to get you on installation fees
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05-19-2008, 10:54 AM #19Web Hosting Guru
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I got a quote for a 10mbit dedicated line from our local cable company, $75.00 per mbit. If I sign a 5 year contract they wave the installation costs, never inquired about the cost of installation. Considering our close proximity to one of their "switching stations" and offices, I'd assume the installation wouldn't cost too much. We decided to just go with a business-level cable connection, 15mbit/1mbit. Provided business continues profitably trending we may upgrade, but not to run a data center from our office. Although I like the idea of hands-on proximity, it would just cost too much. However, good luck if you intend to pursue this. WHT is a great place to dig up information on this subject.
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05-19-2008, 12:03 PM #20Web Hosting Guru
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thanks
thanks everyone for their input.
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05-19-2008, 12:05 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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05-19-2008, 12:11 PM #22Web Hosting Guru
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I think most were right, im just going to do a colocation over at XO, I live close to them and they offered me a great price. But the only thing i was worrying about, if the server goes offline i would have to go there in the middle of the night.
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05-19-2008, 12:23 PM #24Web Hosting Guru
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ok, Also which is better for colocation, XO or level3, as they are both close to where i live.
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05-19-2008, 12:34 PM #25Web Hosting Master
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