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Old 05-14-2008, 01:20 PM
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Opteron 248 vs 270


How much difference is there between the 248 and 270. If I upgrade from 248 to the 270 will I notice much difference? 270 is $50 more. Worth it?



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Old 05-14-2008, 01:57 PM
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Not enough. Unfortunately AMDs aren't that gr8 compared to intels

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:37 PM
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How much difference is there between the 248 and 270. If I upgrade from 248 to the 270 will I notice much difference? 270 is $50 more. Worth it?
Do you need to upgrade, and is paying $50 more worth it for you? 270 is faster compared to 248, also has dual core processors unlike the 248.

Look at http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Opteron 248 ranks 129 on the list, and Opteron 270 ranks 48.

Although I am not an expert in this matter, I would have to say 270 would be twice as fast or even faster than the 248.

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:39 PM
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Do you need to upgrade, and is paying $50 more worth it for you? 270 is faster compared to 248, also has dual core processors unlike the 248.
I think I do need to upgrade, see this? and this is after putting the database on a 10k raptor

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:43 PM
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Have you tried optimizing the server, have a server administrator look at the configuration files and optimize them perhaps some good tweaking would save you the $50.

If you really have to, than you should go ahead and upgrade. Wait for an expert opinion however, because this is just my opinion and I am not a 100% sure on this if the 270 would be twice as fast or would barely make a difference.

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:45 PM
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Have you tried optimizing the server, have a server administrator look at the configuration files and optimize them perhaps some good tweaking would save you the $50.

If you really have to, than you should go ahead and upgrade. Wait for an expert opinion however, because this is just my opinion and I am not a 100% sure on this if the 270 would be twice as fast or would barely make a difference.
ok thanks for honesty, I had touchsupport look at it and try to optimize, didn't really work though, whatever they tweaked

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:48 PM
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How much are you currently paying for the server? Maybe a upgrade to a better processor would help, along the lines of the new Intel Xeon 5000 series.

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:56 PM
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How about 246 vs 290 (Single 246 x2) vs (Dual 290 x2)?

How much difference is that?

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:56 PM
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How much are you currently paying for the server? Maybe a upgrade to a better processor would help, along the lines of the new Intel Xeon 5000 series.
$279 for

opt 248
sata II 250
raptor 70gig 10k
6gig ram

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:05 PM
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$279 for

opt 248
sata II 250
raptor 70gig 10k
6gig ram
I am not sure who you are with currently, but take a look at SoftLayer.com and get a Quad Core Xeon 5310. The cost would be about $270 if you use their current promotion, and almost everything would be the same as you have right now but with a much better processor

Is this for a personal web site, or are you hosting a bunch of other people on the server as well? Any control panel?

Instead of the SATA drives, go with the SAS because seems to me you have a heavy database driven web site.

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:10 PM
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Using SAS drives might help too, they are a lot quicker. Raptors really are not that quick, due to the fact they have a lower data density they are not a lot faster than a larger capacity 7.2k

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:12 PM
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How about 246 vs 290 (Single 246 x2) vs (Dual 290 x2)?

How much difference is that?
246 and 248 are almost alike, and 290 would be even faster compared to 270. Not sure how much of a difference it would make, but you are looking at Single Core Dual CPUs vs Dual Core Dual CPU.

You should see a noticeable difference in performance with Dual Core Dual CPU.

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:12 PM
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I am not sure who you are with currently, but take a look at SoftLayer.com and get a Quad Core Xeon 5310. The cost would be about $270 if you use their current promotion, and almost everything would be the same as you have right now but with a much better processor

Is this for a personal web site, or are you hosting a bunch of other people on the server as well? Any control panel?
I am with softlayer, I will take a look! This is for a very large forum community.

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:17 PM
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I had a feeling you were with SoftLayer.

IMHO, the $50 on top of what you are currently paying would be a waste of money especially since you can get a much better server for similar price.

Here's my recommendation:

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Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310
4 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667
SA-SCSI RAID 1 Disk Controller
2x 73GB SA-SCSI 10K RPM

Total:
$309.00
With this, you will have the option to add a 2nd processor if/when needed to double the cpu power.

If you are paying $279 for the 248 plus an additional $50, your total would be $329.00 and you still will not get the performance that you would get with the above server.

Best of luck, and I am sure if you open a ticket with softlayer they can even help you migrate your community forums with their paid support $2.00 per ticket if I am not mistaken

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