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[ebrahim]

Dear all,

I'm a new member who found this great forum for hosting stuff. Thanks for everyone here!



First of all I apologize in advance for this long post. I have to write all details because I'm serious about having a good hosting service.

Currently, I'm hosting my basic site with a hosting company that I don't prefer to mention it's name. There are many bad things about them;

- Large number of database errors (MySql timeouts and connection errors)

- Untrained customer support staff because sometimes they give very silly and unbelievable replies, and sometimes they do not have enough knowledge to answer or solve simple problem.

- Their staff do not care enough. For example if they are stuck and don't know how to solve a problem, they just don't reply and leave tickets open.

- Without any prior notification, they perform sudden restores if something goes wrong in their servers. The bad thing is, sometimes they restore a 2 weeks old back-up, which means every 2 week old content will be deleted including hundreds of forum posts, emails, html pages, etc.

I have been with them around 3 years. As usually known about many hosting companies, the first 1 year is great, but I got the problem stated above at the beginning of the second year and I think that's enough, my visitors are leaving my site...

Anyway I'm planning to extremely extend my site with more contents and I think the current hosting provider cannot handle my needs. My plan is to move during June 2008 so that I have enough time to look for a really good service. I'll leave you with following details.

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::: My Site's Contents :::

1. A PHP-based forum : vBulletin® (via one MySql)

2. A PHP-based website (via more than one MySql)

3. A PHP-based upload/download system for visitor's public use (via one MySql)

4. A PHP-based guest book (may or may not use MySql)

5. A PHP-based photo gallery / album (via one MySql)


::: Technical Requirements :::

1. Expected amount of monthly bandwidth usage = 500GB - 750GB per month

2. Minimum disk space needed = 500GB

3. Minimum MySql databases needed = 25

4. Streaming support for audio and video files including Real products

5. Support for Flash, Shockwave, and all other common multi-media files

6. Ability to add our own MIME types

7. Daily extreme access to the vBulletin® forum via MySql (expected around 150 online users at the same time)

8. Daily heavy downloads of audio & video files

9. Unlimited URL redirects

10. Additional FTP accounts for at least 500 users/ sub-users

11. Domain pointing management for at least 5 domains (can be pointed as Add-on Domains OR Parked Domains)

12. Password-protection for directories

13. Reasonable email accounts

14. Backup and restore tools for the home directory and all other contents such as the MySql databases

15. Secure Shell (SSH) access

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I am seriously thinking about BLUEHOST. My budget is less than $10/month. But if it's really needed to pay for real quality, I would say no more than $13/month.

I would like also to add the following summary to get a feedback from you about BLUEHOST, please, about whether this is true or not

::: Positive things I heard and read about BLUEHOST :::

- They have very helpful, well-trained and friendly customer support staff.

- Most of technical features are great (High bandwidth, large storage, security, etc)

- According to their high quality service, their price is very cheap and competitive


::: Negative things I heard and read about BLUEHOST :::

- BlueHost is NOT perfect for MySql databases, even for normal usage (such as my case 150 users online at the same time). This will affect their CPU resourses and they will shut your site off!

- Because of the expected downtime in their MySql databases, BlueHost is not suitable for professional "real", reliable business. It is very good for little sites such as personal blogs.

- They will host your site is a server "Box", which can make you lucky or entirely unlucky. If that box is new and doesn't have many sites on it, it will be great. However, if it is busy and many sites on it, it will be bloody bad!

- A bad business strategy about the "Box" is that BlueHost hosts new customers in new "Boxes" which have no problems and no heavy load. By this customers will be satisfied having no issues during the first period. This means that they defiantly won't ask for cancellation or money refund, and they will continue with BlueHost. Once the time goes further, that "Box" will have much load and will be given to old customers, and then suffering begins!


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Important note: I will not use horrible scripts in my site, they are all checked and validated via 3WC standards. Also I'll use the last updated version of vBulletin forum script. So there won't be serious problems from my side.

If you think my needs will not fit on BLUEHOST, then what's the alternative?

Thanks in advance

[Prolime Servers]

Hello

Hope you are fine there

well first of all i wanted to let you know that , i dont think any shared host will allow you to use that much resources , you can try blue host but these big companies oversell like hell , and if you using that much resources then i dont think that any shared hosting environment will suits you...so i suggest you to go with Vps for a smooth and good journey :-)

Just A Suggestion , Rest Its Upto you

With Respect
Rounak


Edit : what is your site url ?

[amdcomms]

Find yourself a decent powerful shared host that does not oversell .

as they say if yo pay peanuts you get monkeys

[Prolime Servers]

if some host don't oversell then also i dont think anyone can truly provide

500GB - 750GB Bandwith per month

& Minimum disk space 500GB

In Above Mentioned Rates

[ebrahim]

desilime I'm really glad that you responded very quickly

Anyway I thought about VPS many times but unfortunately I won't be able to pay for it

Ok let's limit my needs, I would say that the main content includes:

1. A PHP-based forum : vBulletin® (via one MySql)

2. A PHP-based website (via more than one MySql)

3. A PHP-based guest book (may or may not use MySql)

So NO galley, NO upload center. But let's say I'll still have about 150 online users using forum and website. As you can see I don't need that unlimited bandwidth or storage. The point is CPU resources that database use.

About the current site, I'm canceling it and releasing the domain. My plan now is to re-open in an all-new site...

I spent months reading reviews and horrible stories about even top hosting: BlueHost, HostGator, HostMonster, LunarPages, IPOWER, IX. And none of them didn't have terrible stories! Every time I get more confused! ammm but I saw that BH got the lowest number of complains.

Thanks again, and I really appreciate your reply

[hosteur]

If you cannot afford a VPS at least, it will be very hard to find a reliable shared hosting package to feet your need.

[ebrahim]

Originally Posted by amdcomms

Find yourself a decent powerful shared host that does not oversell .

as they say if yo pay peanuts you get monkeys

Thank you very much amdcomms ok do you have any suggestions regarding such powerful shared host?

Originally Posted by desilime

if some host don't oversell then also i dont think anyone can truly provide

500GB - 750GB Bandwith per month

& Minimum disk space 500GB

In Above Mentioned Rates

Thanks again desilime,

If my case gets worse and found my self having no choice, I would pay around $15/month and try to minimize my requirements (say 100GB disk space & 500GB). This if I really found myself stuck.

Thanks

[ebrahim]

Originally Posted by hosteur

If you cannot afford a VPS at least, it will be very hard to find a reliable shared hosting package to feet your need.

Thanks mate for your advice...

I think VPS is the last choice at the moment because as I said I can't offer its price. But yea you're right that logically only VPS is ideal and really reliable. But first I'm trying as much as I can to get reasonable shared host.

[hosteur]

Well, you could do a try with iweb: http://iweb.com/web-hosting/

[Tim Greer]

Sorry, but in this day and age, NO host can give you 500 GB of disk space and 750 GB of bandwidth, especially for a site that uses a lot of scripts, CPU cycles, memory usage, and database queries on such a large one, for anywhere near $13/mo. If you try, you're either going to be disappointed from host to host, or you'll find out that you've over-exaggerated what you will actually need and use, which is good, because a hopeful view on what you'll use and how popular you will be, compared to what you actually use, is the only reason why someone could or would be okay with hosting you for around $13/mo.

In other words, if you really use that much space and bandwidth, then just wanting some host to be able to actually provide you with service doesn't make it anymore likely. Ask as you might, it's simply not going to happen. If you have that sort of usage, you must be willing and able to spend the money it takes to get on a server that can handle it (meaning a high end VPS, a semi-dedicated or low to medium end dedicated server).

There is no way around it currently, and sometimes people just don't have the money to host the sites they want to host. However, there are sometimes solutions, such as asking your member base to donate or charge for some services or features, so you can have the community members you host help pay for or offset the hosting fees.

[alxconn]

I think Dreamhost is the only shared company that would even dream (get it) of letting you use that much. They've got reliablilty issues, but you're definitely not going to get much for $13. In fact, I'm using a VPS for 2 small Wordpress installs and soon to be a drupal site all with low usage requirements because of downtime and CS issues at all of the shared hosts I have used:
1and1, Dreamhost, Bluehost

Good luck

[ephasenetworks]

I honestly don't think your going to have much luck at $10/mo.

With the amount of resources your using, after a month or two, your still going to be dissatisfied with anyones services.

[Prolime Servers]

Kindly post your site url or pm me.... so that i can find the real condition of your site and your requirement and then i can suggest something which suits in your budget :-)

Hope this Helps
Cheers

[atchoooo]

As others stated, your requirements vs budget do not fit and you will probably end up with a suspended web site with shared hosting. If you cannot find the money to pay a VPS or a little low end server, I would suggest you try to get a host to sponsor a dedicated server or a VPS if you have a significant amount of quality visitors.

[Prolime Servers]

Originally Posted by atchoooo

As others stated, your requirements vs budget do not fit and you will probably end up with a suspended web site with shared hosting. If you cannot find the money to pay a VPS or a little low end server, I would suggest you try to get a host to sponsor a dedicated server or a VPS if you have a significant amount of quality visitors.

Yup Great Idea To Work With :-) this can surely help you