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    100Mbps dedicated $1800 budget please suggest great host

    Hi,

    i am looking for 100Mbps dedicated bandwidth, unmetered transfer, 4GB ram 2000gb hard disk, quad core Xeon and budget around $1800/month cuz my site got loadz of media streaming work to do simultaneously.

    Can someone suggest some great host with great reliable and fully managed support? there are thousands to choose from and i'm sure my budget is fair to the market range but i really love to get great service besides those specs.

    i'm trying to get some company with 3 or more data centre so that means they're at least of some scale

    is NTT good? reasonable price?
    Guys if you have similar experience i'd be most grateful to learn cuz it's so hard to pick a nice one.

    thanks alot!

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    You're going to be hard-pressed to find a dedicated 100 mbps line for 1800/mth, let alone with a server and management.



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    There are plenty of reliable companies who only maintain 1 datacenter. You should not rule them out simply because of how many facilities they run.
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    hmmm... ok.. just love to learn you guys experience on hosting .... cuz was scared by those complaints and no-one- answer support service : (

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    Where will you do more traffic? Europe/US/Asia?

    This is important to know as you might be better off with some carriers and some locations...
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    US + ASIA, thats y we need hosting which has great international transmission.

    thanks alot guys~

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    There are a handful of US providers that have above-average international transit. Forum rules prevent me form mentioning them.

    Contact a few providers and ask them questions regarding their international connectivity.



    Kind Regards,

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    You want a provider that offers BTN/PCCW, Global Crossing, NTT/Verio, and/or Flag on their backbone...
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    NTT and PCCW are great for Asia, so just make sure the providers in US have at aleast one of these carriers in their BGP network. You can also split servers in US and Asia to better handle users in each area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utropicmedia-karl View Post
    You're going to be hard-pressed to find a dedicated 100 mbps line for 1800/mth, let alone with a server and management.



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    I dont think so actually. I think he/she will have quite a few to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HivelocityGM View Post
    I dont think so actually. I think he/she will have quite a few to choose from.

    $18/mbit is what the OP wants, without a server or management. Please show me kindly where you can get a true dedicated 100 mbps server with the specs the OP detailed for that price.




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    As stated there are a plethora of providers within your price range that have substantial peering and transit in Asia, Europe and the United States. In addition to a dedicated server, you will achieve maximum performance by utilizing a CDN with presences in you major target markets. A single managed server cannot match the performance and availability of a CDN.

    Please also remember it's against the rules for providers to PM you
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    Quote Originally Posted by utropicmedia-karl View Post
    $18/mbit is what the OP wants, without a server or management. Please show me kindly where you can get a true dedicated 100 mbps server with the specs the OP detailed for that price.




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    I would love too! Trust me, there are places. Some might charge a setup but it can be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utropicmedia-karl View Post
    You're going to be hard-pressed to find a dedicated 100 mbps line for 1800/mth, let alone with a server and management.



    Kind Regards,
    While it may seem this way from the colocation industry, quality unmanaged dedicated providers can be found.

    Quote Originally Posted by HivelocityGM View Post
    I would love too! Trust me, there are places. Some might charge a setup but it can be done.
    Not a very large set-up fee at that.

    There's a handful of quality places that are specialists in dedicated unmetered dedicated servers, with true dedicated bandwith. If you're serving media, Voxel would be an excellent place to start. Their CDN services have been in a few reviews lately, and would be definitely be applicable for serving media while reducing overhead as well.

    Sample configuration:

    Xeon X3220
    4GB Ram
    2x 1 TB SATA HDs
    100 mbps unmetered dedicated

    $1509, $49 one-time setup.

    Taken from: www.voxrox.com

    I'd imagine that you could talk to sales and have them drop the setup for a slightly increased MRC. With the spare ~$300 in your budget, I'd look at their voxcdn promos to expand your geographic diversity for your media, or a similar cdn service. But, they look to be running some really good promos, so you may have better luck negotiating on two services through them instead of one. I haven't talked with Troy above, but I've met Sam Machiz, VP of sales before, and he's definitely an excellent fellow to work with. Like wise, Lenny, Jeff and a couple of other techs come to mind when I think Voxel, as they've been excellent to work with over many projects.

    If you have a specific region in mind other than US east mentioned above, that would likely assist many in helping you. Remember that there is a difference between 100mbps unmetered, and 100 mbps DEDICATED.

    Good luck in your search!
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    In addition to a dedicated server, you will achieve maximum performance by utilizing a CDN with presences in you major target markets. A single managed server cannot match the performance and availability of a CDN.
    This is true, but an entirely different snack bracket.

    It would also mean the cost of the CDN in *addition* to the cost of maintaining an origin server.

    What some sites have done is to create their own 'mini-cdn' by using geolocation capable dns.
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    Burst.Net has dedicated 100Mbps @ $13/Mbps..According to their site they have PCCW for the Asia area.

    100MBPS HIGH-USAGE (DEDICATED/GUARANTEED)
    $1300.00

    Leaving you around $500 for a server, or more then just one.
    (You could get 2 Quad Core Xeons from Burst.Net and have over $150 left over for upgrades!).

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plumsauce View Post
    This is true, but an entirely different snack bracket.

    It would also mean the cost of the CDN in *addition* to the cost of maintaining an origin server.

    What some sites have done is to create their own 'mini-cdn' by using geolocation capable dns.
    As stated, the cost of a dedicated server or alternative staging medium can be minimal given that its sole purpose is to 'store' content for retrieval by the CDN.

    Quote Originally Posted by JelloX View Post
    Burst.Net has dedicated 100Mbps @ $13/Mbps..According to their site they have PCCW for the Asia area.

    100MBPS HIGH-USAGE (DEDICATED/GUARANTEED)
    $1300.00

    Leaving you around $500 for a server, or more then just one.
    (You could get 2 Quad Core Xeons from Burst.Net and have over $150 left over for upgrades!).

    Good luck.
    Selecting an unmetered server does little to ensure global content availability in the event of server failure. The quality of content delivery is also significantly inferior to a geographically diverse CDN.

    For the record, a Quad Core with 4GB RAM and 100Mbps of bandwidth at BurstNet is $1,620 with a $350 initial setup charge.

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    the 'sig-whoring' in this thread is out of control

    jeez.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JelloX View Post
    Burst.Net has dedicated 100Mbps @ $13/Mbps..According to their site they have PCCW for the Asia area.

    100MBPS HIGH-USAGE (DEDICATED/GUARANTEED)
    $1300.00

    Leaving you around $500 for a server, or more then just one.
    (You could get 2 Quad Core Xeons from Burst.Net and have over $150 left over for upgrades!).

    Good luck.
    I would love to hear some first-person feedback on how dedicated that pipe really is. The numbers just don't add up.



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    Yeah, Karl. I don't know anyone who has used it, I'm interested in the speeds people get if anyone here has a Burst 100Mbps dedicated.

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    << I would love to hear some first-person feedback on how dedicated that pipe really is. The numbers just don't add up. >>

    The HIGH-USAGE servers we offer are indeed DEDICATED/GUARANTEED bandwidth, and you would be able to utilize the full amount 24/7.

    These are not to be confused with the UNMETERED servers we offer, which are shared bandwidth...


    NOTE: I think I am permitted to post this, as it was an answer to a direct question on service levels/types clarification...
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    If you are serving mostly Asian countries I think you will have better results, in terms of both latency and bandwidth quality, if you stick to the West Coast/Texas. If you could help us out with the planned use of the bandwidth (web hosting, streaming, downloads) perhaps we can suggest a configuration that will most efficiently choose bandwidth/location/hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utropicmedia-karl View Post
    I would love to hear some first-person feedback on how dedicated that pipe really is. The numbers just don't add up.



    Regards,
    Just wondering, how does it not add up? I know many companies that can offer truly dedicated bandwidth in that price range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlZimmer View Post
    Just wondering, how does it not add up? I know many companies, including mine, that can offer truly dedicated bandwidth in that price range.

    Note: I mentioned my company doing that to state I have direct experience in the area, not to advertise. If the mods feel it needs to be removed though, go for it.
    Let's assume the bandwidth is ultra-cheap and fully-burdened: $20/mbit.

    20 * 100 = $2000/mth.


    I could go into how much the server and full management costs, but do I really need to? I think the above math is simple enough to illustrate my point.



    "Karl, you're crazy. Transit is not THAT much"


    Ok, let's do this ultra-complex math with $15/mbit:


    15 * 100 = $1500/mth.

    Again, just the bandwidth. That leaves $300 for the server and support. To me, "fully managed" means that you need excellent support, and using the quick-estimation form my time in the enterprise, management/support of an asset is roughly 3x the cost of the asset.

    3 * 300 = $900/mth for the management.






    Regards,

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    With that budget your options are plentiful. Seriously.

    Just browse the offers forums for *dedicated bandwidth* offers and steer clear of the "shared" unmetered offers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utropicmedia-karl View Post
    Let's assume the bandwidth is ultra-cheap and fully-burdened: $20/mbit.

    20 * 100 = $2000/mth.


    I could go into how much the server and full management costs, but do I really need to? I think the above math is simple enough to illustrate my point.



    "Karl, you're crazy. Transit is not THAT much"


    Ok, let's do this ultra-complex math with $15/mbit:


    15 * 100 = $1500/mth.

    Again, just the bandwidth. That leaves $300 for the server and support. To me, "fully managed" means that you need excellent support, and using the quick-estimation form my time in the enterprise, management/support of an asset is roughly 3x the cost of the asset.

    3 * 300 = $900/mth for the management.






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    I know a bunch of providers selling the bandwidth at ~$10 per Mbit/sec, in which case, it just about fits in the budget based on your math. I'm not saying those providers are top quality or anything, but if what the OP wants to do is 100 Mbit/sec managed for $1800 a month, it is certainly possible with a good number of providers.
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    Even I am not sure whether you'd be able to find a dedicated unmetered 100 Mbps port for that price from a good provider... may be 50 Mbps is possible..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlZimmer View Post
    I know a bunch of providers selling the bandwidth at ~$10 per Mbit/sec, in which case, it just about fits in the budget based on your math. I'm not saying those providers are top quality or anything, but if what the OP wants to do is 100 Mbit/sec managed for $1800 a month, it is certainly possible with a good number of providers.
    "good" is of course relative. I have no doubt you can have that bandwidth at that price, but I would question the quality. If a client came to me with the OP's requirements I would tell them to raise their budget. IMO, quality is not something you can afford to bargain with.



    Kind Regards,

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    hivelocity.

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