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    godaddy vs 1and1

    Which one is better in shared hosting between godaddy and 1&1?

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    this depends on how you want to use them. According to reviews here godaddy has better support. 1 und 1 has a great network though.

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    1 und 1 has a great network though.
    but support reply within 24/48 hours
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    Been with 1&1 for almost three years and love em. I was with GoDaddy right before them and canceled when php uploads (yes, uploads... doing NOTHING but uploading the files) would break their directory structure and they'd have to cancel my account and rebuild it from scratch... went through that 3 times. I also didn't like that simple little things like useful stats were an add on at GoDaddy rather than a part of the package... the upselling is CONSTANT.


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    I was at the book store the other day looking at computer magazines, and I noticed that 1&1 had full page (and even multi-page) adds in just about every design or hardware magazine I picked up. I'm wondering if this is smart marketing or not for a hosting company... I'd like to know what their return on this is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoevsky View Post
    I was at the book store the other day looking at computer magazines, and I noticed that 1&1 had full page (and even multi-page) adds in just about every design or hardware magazine I picked up. I'm wondering if this is smart marketing or not for a hosting company... I'd like to know what their return on this is.
    This is the same in every US, Canadian, British and German magazine that is vaguely related to IT.
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    I have a 1and1 web hosting account and its not bad. I've only had 1 outage in about a year, which lasted about 10 mins. I've had to call up their support a few times, and its really hard to hear them.

    The Indian accents aren't a big factor to me, as I work through it, but the connections are really bad. Most of the time there is static on the line, and the volume is always very low.
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    1and1 has a downtime of 10 min in a year then what about godaddy's downtime?

    Which will be better for an online store?

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    I've not heard good things about GoDaddy hosting unless you're just hosting a very small personal static-paged web site. I've heard some bad things about 1&1 but given the choice between those two alone I would probably pick 1&1.

    As always, please do sone research/searching on here for reviews of both so that you can form your own opinions beyond that which you are told on this thread.
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    I've used both there services, but only GoDaddy's web hosting. My first domain I bought was from 1and1 and I thought "Wow this is great, cheap domain and reliable uptime". Which was all true, that's not where my problems with 1and1 are though.

    Comparing GoDaddy and 1and1's domain propagation, GoDaddy has them beat by a long shot. When I changed name servers with 1and1 it took the normal 48-72 hours for other people to be able to navigate to that link. Now, that is acceptable considering that's what it is supposed to take. On the other hand, when I switched to GoDaddy my domain propagation was near instant. Within a couple of minutes my site was accessible, and not just to me. That impressed me, and for a couple dollars more you can have your website up and running days sooner.

    Hosting threw GoDaddy for me was a pain, I would never go there for web hosting again. I was not able to upload a simple .sql backup from my old host, because the format was "not accepted". I quickly phoned there support line and they were unable to help me, so I had to start from square one. For me being so used to cPanel it was nearly impossible for me to comfortably navigate there own custom control panel. (Hey, at least I didn't have to pay long distance for calling there support phone! ).

    Both good companies, but I prefer to go with less-known hosting places. You can get nearly whatever you want with them because some hosts offer so many features to suit all your needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjtalk9 View Post
    Which one is better in shared hosting between godaddy and 1&1?


    LOL, that's like asking whether one generic unsalted peanut is better than another...

    I recommend doing a SEARCH through the forums for both companies, you'll get a real eyeful on them both.

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    lol, This is like comparing used cars that have a few cylinders missing and smoke billowing from the oil burning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bithost(NET) View Post
    LOL, that's like asking whether one generic unsalted peanut is better than another...
    Hardly... I have found 1&1 to be spectacularly, awesomely unique... even life changingly good (and that is no exaggeration... 1&1's offerings have made a direct and MAJOR difference in my life path)!

    Quote Originally Posted by vibrokatana View Post
    lol, This is like comparing used cars that have a few cylinders missing and smoke billowing from the oil burning.
    Hardly... I have found 1&1 to be super smooth and their data center is, by all evidence (including the word of someone who has been to and worked at the data center as an independent contractor)... beautifully put together.

    GoDaddy's hosting did indeed suck for me though... their directory structure completely broke and had to be rebuilt THREE TIMES just from uploading wordpress... I kid you not.

    Bunch a FUD slangin haters!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    Bunch a FUD slangin haters!
    If I had a dollar for every time you called "FUD" on this forum I'd be rich. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it FUD

    GoDaddy's hosting did indeed suck for me though... their directory structure completely broke and had to be rebuilt THREE TIMES just from uploading wordpress... I kid you not.
    Oh, how dare you! GoDaddy rocks, stop spreading "FUD"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    If I had a dollar for every time you called "FUD" on this forum I'd be rich. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it FUD
    Comparing 1&1 to a car that's missing cylinders and blowing smoke implies that there servers run like crap... that they have a poor setup, and that is completely false FUD.

    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    Oh, how dare you! GoDaddy rocks, stop spreading "FUD"!
    The directory breaking from simply uploading wordpress is absolute FACT... not opinion or metaphor!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    Comparing 1&1 to a car that's missing cylinders and blowing smoke implies that there servers run like crap... that they have a poor setup, and that is completely false.
    Stop right there, it may be false in your experience, but to discount the experience of others as FUD is nonsense.

    People have differing experiences and opinions...it's a fact of life.

    Is 1and1's service bad? Clearly not in your experience, but others may disagree, and that doesn't make everything they say automatically "FUD", just because the almighty dwrunyon considers it so

    What's the point to constantly tossing around this silly term anyhow? You've shared your experience, I feel that should be a sufficient contribution to the thread. If you want people to respect your experience/opinion, then you better not be calling their experience/opinion "FUD".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    The directory breaking from simply uploading wordpress is absolute FACT... not opinion or metaphor!
    Frankly, I don't see how this is technically possible unless there was something incorrect with your upload procedure, and considering how many of GoDaddy's customers must be using WordPress, it simply doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    Stop right there, it may be false in your experience, but to discount the experience of others as FUD is nonsense.
    When you're talkin cars and cylinders and oil you're talkin HARDWARE, not experiences and opinions, and it is a fact that 1&1's data center is the MOTHERSHIP! So to have implanted the imagery of an old crappy car that's engine is falling apart is true to the standardly accepted notion of what FUD is!

    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    the almighty dwrunyon
    Thanks for recognizing!

    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    Frankly, I don't see how this is technically possible unless there was something incorrect with your upload procedure, and considering how many of GoDaddy's customers must be using WordPress, it simply doesn't make sense.
    Listen man, I gotta tell you... I don't see how it's possible either... it makes no sense, but I promise you that it did indeed happen... THREE TIMES!

    This was about three years ago, and wordpress wasn't quite as widespread as it is now, but I uploaded it with the same dang thang I use to upload everything to this day, Dreamweaver. I have since uploaded wordpress to about 10 different hosts and not had any problems, but when I sent it up to their servers everything got hosed... it made it to where I couldn't delete any directories or files, and their support had NO IDEA what to do about it but to delete my account and recreate everything from scratch... THREE TIMES, now... not just one fluke. It was on that third time that I asked for a refund.

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    Also, phpBB would give errors on almost every attempt to post a message. This was just a test installation with NO users but myself. I think their was something dreadfully wrong with their implementation of php at the time, is all I can guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    When you're talkin cars and cylinders and oil you're talkin HARDWARE, not experiences and opinions, and it is a fact that 1&1's data center is the MOTHERSHIP! So to have implanted the imagery of an old crappy car that's engine is falling apart is true to the standardly accepted notion of what FUD is!
    The size of 1and1's data center has little relevance to the experience of an end-user with a virtual host on one of their servers. What's very relevant is the quality of support, performance of the servers - things that actually directly affect the account. The size of the data center doesn't matter, so long as there is sufficient redundancy and adherence to industry standards. I feel that this is the case for most any decent host...

    If users commenting in this thread don't have experience with 1and1, then sure, they have no place to comment on the quality of their service, and even then you should be reporting this to the mods instead of calling it FUD.

    But, if they do have experience with 1and1, then whether or not they're using an analogy to express their opinion shouldn't matter to you and certainly isn't FUD - it's their experience.

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    FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative (and vague) information. An individual firm, for example, might use FUD to invite unfavorable opinions and speculation about a competitor's product. The term originated to describe disinformation tactics in the computer hardware industry and has since been used more broadly.
    Now, look at their postings, and the many similar postings from often the same folks, and tell me that the definition doesn't fit. Every dang time there's a thread about 1and1 people (again, often the same ones) come in and make the same negative (and vague) comments about them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    Now, look at their postings, and the many similar postings from often the same folks, and tell me that the definition doesn't fit. Every dang time there's a thread about 1and1 people (again, often the same ones) come in and make the same negative (and vague) comments about them.
    If these people can't backup their comments with experience, then they should not be allowed to post as per the rules of this forum - whether it's FUD is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layer0 View Post
    The size of the data center doesn't matter, so long as there is sufficient redundancy and adherence to industry standards.
    I ain't even thinkin about size... I'm talkin levels of state of the artness! From the many pictures I have seen of their data center, I'm thinkin they might have the most meticulously architected servers and system on the planet. And it's fresh built to (I think their new center went live middle of last year), so everything in there is the newest of the new!


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    Right, okay, back to the topic.

    dwrunyon, your experience with 1&1 clearly differs from the dozens and dozens of negative posts and reviews which have been recently posted on this board.

    Everyone has the same access to the information via the Search link.

    Just because one person has had good luck with a provider does not make all the other negative reviews worthless. It just means there is a lone voice that doesn't agree with the chorus.

    dwrunyon, thank you for sharing your experience.

    I'm interested to hear what others have experienced as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bithost(NET) View Post
    I'm interested to hear what others have experienced as well.
    Experiences are fine... vague, inaccurate metaphors and generalized negativity with no detail shared to back it up are not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sjtalk9 View Post
    Which one is better in shared hosting between godaddy and 1&1?
    It is a tough choice but if I would have been looking for web hosting I would be considering neither of these two companies. There are numerous horror stories about these two hosts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    Experiences are fine... vague, inaccurate metaphors and generalized negativity with no detail shared to back it up are not.

    Hence the suggestion to the OP to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE.

    You see the dead horse laying here, yes? It's someone else's turn now.

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    Yeah, there are some stories about these two. But anyway it depends on how you want to use your hosting service.
    I can't divide these two, but if I were you, I'd go for 1and1.

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    One of my bad experiences from 1and1 was completely ridiculous. I wanted to transfer a domain from 1and1 to GoDaddy, so I did the obvious thing. I requested a domain transfer(seems proper?). I had emailed 1and1 as instructed to so they could approve the transfer. Not only did they not let me transfer the domain, but even after several emails they would not respond to me. Huge disappointment to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bithost(NET) View Post
    I'm interested to hear what others have experienced as well.
    I've been with 1 and 1 for about two years. While it's not quite a 'life changing experience', it has been almost trouble free. But I would caution would be customers, "Read ALL the fine print". The free offers have strings attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjtalk9 View Post
    Which one is better in shared hosting between godaddy and 1&1?
    Hmmm,
    more a case of which one is the least bad, nobody will agree but 1&1 UK/Euro I consider to be less bad than 1&1 US.
    GoDaddy's support is prob. more flexable than 1&1's.

    But these are simply my own views/opinions, best to do a WHT & Google search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandpaD View Post
    "Read ALL the fine print".
    And Strictly stick/comply with there 'Procedures'.
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    I use both.

    It depends if you are talking about domain registration or hosting.

    But, I would give GoDaddy the nod for both.

    1and1 is more expensive, less responsive, and their control panel is harder to use.

    Yet, 1and1 hosting seems stable enough.

    I would've bought more domains and hosting from 1and1, but their control panel is so underpowered and unresponsive, it pushed me back to GoDaddy and other registrars.

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    godaddy hosting sucks

    Unless the only thing you ever want to use on your site is straight html

    It takes 24 hours to get any response to an inquiry and often the answer is wrong or incomplete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxcar View Post
    Unless the only thing you ever want to use on your site is straight html

    It takes 24 hours to get any response to an inquiry and often the answer is wrong or incomplete.
    Was this with 1and1 or GoDaddy? How long were you with said provider?
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    I have 2 clients that have sites hosted on GoDaddy...still. For at least 6 months now. It is false economy on their part because they have to pay me extra to communicate - slowly - with GoDaddy plus try all these contortions to try and get things - like flash, php apps etc. to work.

    You can imagine how long it takes to resolve an issue when they send out a reply only every 24 hours. It can take 2 weeks to get a straight answer simply because the first answers they send are canned (prescripted cut and paste) and often are not relevant to the question you asked. So you need to ask again and wait another 24 hours and hope that they actually read your question and have an answer and that the answer they sent is correct which often it is not or is, again, an answer but not to the one you asked and on and on and on...

    Godaddy is fine for domain registration but not for hosting. Sometimes things on servers go whacky and having to wait 24 hours for a response to an inquiry is simply unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    Experiences are fine... vague, inaccurate metaphors and generalized negativity with no detail shared to back it up are not.
    What, is it FUD to point out the obvious that neither GoDaddy or 1and1 have great reputations? Is it false to say that we tend to see more bad reviews about them than good ones?

    Metaphors aren't FUD unless they are predicated on bad data. The metaphor of comparing a bad car with a host that has predominantly bad reviews is fine. The car may still get you where you want to go, but there's still a good chance you'll have a bad experience.

    I'm glad the car got you to where you wanted to go, and I'm glad for your life-changing experience with them, but just because others don't share in your enthusiasm doesn't mean they're spreading FUD.

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    I go for 1and1 but I use something more better !

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianzak View Post
    I go for 1and1 but I use something more better !
    Would you like to expand on that ?
    Whats the 'something better' ?
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    I go for 1and1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlePig111 View Post
    I go for 1and1.
    Have you ever used them in the past? In order to recommend a host here at WHT, you have to have previous experience with them.
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