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    Can you buy IPs?

    Our business has grown and we would like to know if it is possible to buy IPs (/18 or /19)

    Anyone have any experience with this?

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    I'm assuming you're in the US:

    http://www.arin.net/registration/gui...ssignment.html
    http://www.arin.net/billing/fee_sche...ml#ipv4_assign

    ie, you're looking at $2250 to $4500/yr plus other fees and costs of various requirements.

    I'm not entirely sure, but I believe you need to be able to immediately justify something like 30% of the allocation you are requesting and show 100% utilization within 1 year...
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    No, you can't. You can rent them from a RIR such as ARIN/RIPE/APNIC/AfNIC, but you can't buy them. The requirements generally speaking are that you must be multi-homed and show X% of immediate usage, Y% within 2 years - X and Y differing between regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serv2u View Post
    Or AfriNIC, or APNIC, or LACNIC. They all report to IANA:

    http://www.iana.net/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bqinternet View Post
    Or AfriNIC, or APNIC, or LACNIC. They all report to IANA:

    http://www.iana.net/
    of course they are all dependent upon the location of your entity.

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    reminds me of software. Your never buying the software, your just licensing it to use it. Btw thanks for the info. I have been curious about that for awhile.
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    If you are growing fast, considering moving to IPv6, IPv4 will run out in several years.
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    I know people think I am nuts, but I really don't think the switch to IPv6 will happen as quickly as people think it will. I like the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx format. much easier to remember. its gonna drive me nuts remembering in ipv6
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrianto View Post
    If you are growing fast, considering moving to IPv6, IPv4 will run out in several years.
    Unfortunately since almost nobody is using IPv6, "moving" to it is not a realistic solution yet. Nobody would be able to get to the website
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcu View Post
    Our business has grown and we would like to know if it is possible to buy IPs (/18 or /19)

    Anyone have any experience with this?
    I don't know what is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngcitya View Post
    I don't know what is it?

    A and B Class subnets they are.

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    A and B class subnets died off years ago, we don't do Classful routing any more.
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    hmm didn't know that. Things you learn every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serv2u View Post
    A and B Class subnets they are.
    Actually, class A would be /8, and class B would be /16. Class C is /24.
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    getting away from the nitpicking, the answer to the OP is that yes, you can probably get them. While you don't technically own them, you do have control over them. IPs are divvied out with aforementioned IP justification forms. Having only gotten /23's and /24's, I can't tell you how difficult that may be for the number of IP's they are looking for. You should be able to call your account rep and request the justification forms. I have no idea on cost for that though.
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    Hardly nit-picking when it's fundamental to the way the Internet works
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    pssshhhht.... how the internet works? who ever needed to know that? don't we all just sign on to AOL and use some random string of keywords? hahaha
    seriously though... just wanted to answer what was asked without getting into the fundamentals of how and why. do you think there is an AOL keyword "ineedmoreips"?
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    If you have to deal with ARIN they are very picky on who and how they do assignments. If you do not have full utilization according to them you will not get a block size larger than what you are using. Also, you have to pick to get an end-user assignment or ISP assignment. Typically the ISP assignments are the ones that are going to get larger than /21s and you have to demonstrate a multi-homed protocol to qualify. I am doing one for a customer now in our colo and even with 3 bandwidth contracts a full /21 and meeting every other ARIN requirement it has taken over 3 weeks and still no /20 assignement.

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    Hence, why calpop will rather buy a company that controls a lot of IP's. much easier to get things done.
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    You was able to buy ip addresses in the far past, think 15+ years ago, but not any more. Therefore, those who bought the ips years ago kept them The rest of us only rent IPs You can still find some owned up addresses on the net these days, there was a story out about them a few weeks ago.

    The software analogy doesn't work here, because only software, where the license is shown on at time of purchase are leased software.
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    Does anyone remember when they used to give out domains for free? I still have one, never use it though.
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