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Old 04-20-2008, 07:50 AM
jobe jobe is offline
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vps - cpanel or plesk


I'm thinking of taking out a new VPS but am unsure of whether to go with CPanel or Plesk.

I have used CPanel with WHM & it works really well. I have read that it does take up a lot of memory & as I'm going for a low end VPS - with 348mb to start with, I was wondering about Plesk, which is also offered by the hosts.

Is Plesk more memory-friendly?

Does Plesk operate in the same way as CPanel - offering Admin as in WHM & easily configurable client panels?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 04-20-2008, 07:53 AM
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Cpanel.
If you have used it before, stick with it!
they use about the same amount of memory, and you should just barely be able to run either of them with 384MB of RAM. I would suggest at a bare minumum to run either, 512MB of RAM

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:03 AM
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Thanks Jacob - nice to get an idea of the memory - & yes, more memory is clearly the logical way.

I'm on another host with a VPS at the moment - very highly thought of by all & excellent support - but from the beginning some of my sites have timed out when trying to contact them - not all the time but enough to be really annoying. It's not that they're down, it's just that it takes a time to get through. I've tried on different IPs & different browsers but sometimes it happens. I've also checked it out with a few different site speed tests & all is fine there.

I want to resell & it seems to be a recipe for disaster to continue with them if this keeps happening. Could it be related to the amount of memory I have - 348 there as well.
Or I was thinking it might be a bottleneck with the hosts. What do you think?

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:06 AM
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You should try DirectAdmin as well.

I was once a big cPanel fan and after played around with DA a littel while, I decided to stick with it.

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:07 AM
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Thumbs up cpanel

Hello,

My vote for cpanel.

cpanel is the best.

Thankyou,

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:10 AM
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Thanks - with the new hosts I've only got the choice between CPanel & Plesk.
I have heard that DirectAdmin uses minimal memory.

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:44 AM
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Cpanel wins with both hands tied behind.

second is direct admin

plesk is difficult to understand (for me)

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:49 AM
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Thanks all - looks like I'll stick with CPanel.

I see there is the option, within WHM, of transferring accounts from other servers - has anyone tried this?

I'll test it out but was wondering how reliable it is.
For example I have lots of Moodle installations, which run off MySQL, - wondering if all will go well.

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Old 04-20-2008, 09:24 AM
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cPanel/WHM is probably the best choice for you (though I've nothing against Plesk) as you are already familiar with it.

There's an upgrade to cPanel coming through some time soon (it's currently available on the EDGE tree, and therefore not really viable for a production VPS) which radically reduces the amount of memory used.

I tested this on a spare 256Mb VPS and got memory usage down to just below 128Mb with Fantastico and RVSkins on there too, so the suggestion already made for a VPS with 512Mb RAM is definitely viable.

Site transfers from one cPanel/WHM to another are a breeze. If it's a large site and a slow connection you might get timeouts, but then it's just as easy to run a backup within the domain's cPanel on the outgoing server, SSH that to the /home directory of your new VPS, and then just use WHM to restore it. MySQL etc are not an issue, it all transfers or restores nicely.

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Old 04-20-2008, 09:57 AM
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Hard Question you asked.

cPanel is by far a better control panel, but it uses a TON of memory.

Pleask on the otherhand has less features, and a poor graphic interface, but it uses alot less memory.

I guess it all depends on the server you are putting the control panel on. I personally like DirectAdmin or LxAdmin

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:02 AM
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Thanks Jacob - nice to get an idea of the memory - & yes, more memory is clearly the logical way.

I'm on another host with a VPS at the moment - very highly thought of by all & excellent support - but from the beginning some of my sites have timed out when trying to contact them - not all the time but enough to be really annoying. It's not that they're down, it's just that it takes a time to get through. I've tried on different IPs & different browsers but sometimes it happens. I've also checked it out with a few different site speed tests & all is fine there.

I want to resell & it seems to be a recipe for disaster to continue with them if this keeps happening. Could it be related to the amount of memory I have - 348 there as well.
Or I was thinking it might be a bottleneck with the hosts. What do you think?
Could you possibly share your host's name with us? I'm having the same problems with my VPS host and I have 512 mb memory.

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:17 AM
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Hello,

My vote for cpanel.

cpanel is the best.

Thankyou,

Devang
You Should Stick With It ..

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:20 AM
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I'm probably going with ServInt, the Signature VPS plan with 768 memory.
In all other aspects I'm very happy with my present host & am hesitant about mentioning them as it may well not be their problem at all. I wouldn't want to criticise them for no reason.

Netnibble - have tried transferring an account & all went fine but the password seems to have changed & I can't get into the control panel. Any ideas? Is the password change normal?

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:40 AM
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we've tried both and cPanel has been the winner in our book

Plesk of course should run smoother on Virtuozzo but
cPanel gets better and better.

AS very important point is
the ability to EASILY transfer accounts from cPanel to another cPanel - makes life very easy - especially when absorbing large numbers of accounts

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:47 AM
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Thanks Jacob - nice to get an idea of the memory - & yes, more memory is clearly the logical way.

I'm on another host with a VPS at the moment - very highly thought of by all & excellent support - but from the beginning some of my sites have timed out when trying to contact them - not all the time but enough to be really annoying. It's not that they're down, it's just that it takes a time to get through. I've tried on different IPs & different browsers but sometimes it happens. I've also checked it out with a few different site speed tests & all is fine there.

I want to resell & it seems to be a recipe for disaster to continue with them if this keeps happening. Could it be related to the amount of memory I have - 348 there as well.
Or I was thinking it might be a bottleneck with the hosts. What do you think?
Try

KeepAlive Off

Or raising MaxClients if you have the ram to spare as that is sounding like the behavior of hitting maxclients, if the sites are not real visitor sticky, you can usually solve it by just turning off keepalives

also, check if this is really the cause with

grep MaxClients /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log

from shell

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