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  1. #26
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    Traceroutes please...

    1 kallisti.chaosrunner.org (199.34.34.17) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
    2 206.205.235.49 (206.205.235.49) 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms
    3 dca1-core13-pos4-2.atlas.algx.net (165.117.63.1) 4 ms 5 ms 3 ms
    4 dca10-core1-so-7-2-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.56.22) 4 ms 9 ms 4 ms
    5 dca10-core2-so-0-1-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.46) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
    6 sfo10-core2-so-7-0-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.200.78) 92 ms 92 ms 92 ms
    7 sfo10-core1-so-0-1-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.41) 99 ms 92 ms 92 ms
    8 sfo9-core2-pos10-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.69.98) 98 ms 99 ms 92 ms
    9 sjc3-core4-pos2-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.113) 94 ms 96 ms 94 ms
    10 206.181.191.210 (206.181.191.210) 94 ms 96 ms 94 ms
    11 205.215.12.1 (205.215.12.1) 94 ms 103 ms 94 ms
    12 g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net (66.28.28.202) 194 ms 194 ms 194 ms
    13 205.215.2.6 (205.215.2.6) 129 ms 130 ms 129 ms
    14 velocity.eservers.biz (209.51.159.226) 129 ms 132 ms 130 ms


    Tracing route to velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms r.orl-lngwd1.datapacket.net [208.195.14.225]
    2 20 ms 10 ms 30 ms loopback0.gw8.orl1.alter.net [137.39.8.117]
    3 30 ms 10 ms 10 ms 165.at-1-0-0.cl2.orl1.alter.net [152.63.86.182]
    4 10 ms 30 ms 30 ms 0.so-3-0-0.tl2.atl1.alter.net [152.63.101.53]
    5 50 ms 30 ms 100 ms 0.so-5-3-0.tl2.chi2.alter.net [152.63.13.42]
    6 90 ms 30 ms 60 ms 0.so-2-0-0.xl2.chi2.alter.net [152.63.67.110]
    7 40 ms 30 ms 60 ms 0.so-7-1-0.br6.chi2.alter.net [152.63.71.98]
    8 40 ms 50 ms 51 ms 204.255.174.158
    9 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net [66.28.28.202]
    10 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms 205.215.2.6
    11 60 ms 60 ms 60 ms velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]

    Trace complete.


    anyone else?
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  2. #27
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    and you voted no against WHT having an IRC network!

    look at this thread for example - only seconds between posts...may as well be IRC
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    Originally posted by Myacen


    Yes Im getting good speeds again
    Can you do me a traceroute please.. and post

    Imran
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    cobal,

    she's all good now!
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    This is the first time I've had a problem with them (dv2).

    Quite a novelty really.
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  6. #31
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    Yeah, they are normally very very good - just a bit of network lag when we should be in bed - no hard feelings really
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  7. #32
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    Originally posted by cabalstudios
    Traceroutes please...

    1 kallisti.chaosrunner.org (199.34.34.17) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
    2 206.205.235.49 (206.205.235.49) 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms
    3 dca1-core13-pos4-2.atlas.algx.net (165.117.63.1) 4 ms 5 ms 3 ms
    4 dca10-core1-so-7-2-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.56.22) 4 ms 9 ms 4 ms
    5 dca10-core2-so-0-1-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.46) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
    6 sfo10-core2-so-7-0-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.200.78) 92 ms 92 ms 92 ms
    7 sfo10-core1-so-0-1-0-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.41) 99 ms 92 ms 92 ms
    8 sfo9-core2-pos10-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.69.98) 98 ms 99 ms 92 ms
    9 sjc3-core4-pos2-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.192.113) 94 ms 96 ms 94 ms
    10 206.181.191.210 (206.181.191.210) 94 ms 96 ms 94 ms
    11 205.215.12.1 (205.215.12.1) 94 ms 103 ms 94 ms
    12 g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net (66.28.28.202) 194 ms 194 ms 194 ms
    13 205.215.2.6 (205.215.2.6) 129 ms 130 ms 129 ms
    14 velocity.eservers.biz (209.51.159.226) 129 ms 132 ms 130 ms


    Tracing route to velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms r.orl-lngwd1.datapacket.net [208.195.14.225]
    2 20 ms 10 ms 30 ms loopback0.gw8.orl1.alter.net [137.39.8.117]
    3 30 ms 10 ms 10 ms 165.at-1-0-0.cl2.orl1.alter.net [152.63.86.182]
    4 10 ms 30 ms 30 ms 0.so-3-0-0.tl2.atl1.alter.net [152.63.101.53]
    5 50 ms 30 ms 100 ms 0.so-5-3-0.tl2.chi2.alter.net [152.63.13.42]
    6 90 ms 30 ms 60 ms 0.so-2-0-0.xl2.chi2.alter.net [152.63.67.110]
    7 40 ms 30 ms 60 ms 0.so-7-1-0.br6.chi2.alter.net [152.63.71.98]
    8 40 ms 50 ms 51 ms 204.255.174.158
    9 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net [66.28.28.202]
    10 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms 205.215.2.6
    11 60 ms 60 ms 60 ms velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]

    Trace complete.


    anyone else?
    C:\>tracert velocity.eservers.biz

    Tracing route to velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 23 ms 22 ms 26 ms 172.31.16.24
    2 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 172.31.56.24
    3 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms qld5-atm.qld.bigpond.net.au [??]
    4 22 ms 23 ms 26 ms 61.9.209.8
    5 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms GigabitEthernet4-1.cha23.telstra.net [139.130.193.113]
    6 25 ms 26 ms 24 ms GigabitEthernet4-0.woo-core1.Brisbane.telstra.net [203.50.50.129]
    7 36 ms 36 ms 35 ms Pos5-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.221]
    8 35 ms 39 ms 34 ms Pos2-0.pad-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.22]
    9 37 ms 35 ms 35 ms GigabitEthernet0-0.syd-core01.Sydney.net.reach.com [203.50.13.242
    10 224 ms 223 ms 225 ms 202.84.143.5
    11 211 ms 208 ms 211 ms i-13-0.paix-core01.PaloAlto.net.reach.com [202.84.251.49]
    12 208 ms 208 ms 209 ms ge4-0.mpr2.pao1.us.mfnx.net [198.32.176.11]
    13 227 ms 232 ms 231 ms 64.124.11.181.cogentco.com [64.124.11.181]
    14 213 ms 215 ms 212 ms p6-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.145]
    15 258 ms 260 ms 258 ms p14-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.41]
    16 275 ms 274 ms 276 ms p15-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.62]
    17 327 ms 321 ms 307 ms p6-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.85]
    18 301 ms 301 ms 299 ms p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.13]
    19 316 ms 317 ms 316 ms p4-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.81]
    20 328 ms 328 ms * p14-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.125]
    21 312 ms 313 ms 311 ms g49.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.242]
    22 313 ms 313 ms 315 ms dv2.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.254]
    23 331 ms 331 ms 329 ms dv2-atl-core-core-a.dv2.net [209.51.131.1]
    24 312 ms 309 ms 311 ms velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]

    Trace complete.

    C:\>ping velocity.eservers.biz

    Pinging velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 209.51.159.226: bytes=32 time=312ms TTL=230
    Reply from 209.51.159.226: bytes=32 time=309ms TTL=230
    Reply from 209.51.159.226: bytes=32 time=310ms TTL=230
    Reply from 209.51.159.226: bytes=32 time=318ms TTL=230

    Ping statistics for 209.51.159.226:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 309ms, Maximum = 318ms, Average = 312ms

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  8. #33
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    Originally posted by hosticle
    cobal,

    she's all good now!
    hmm, can I ask why you call us cobal?
    cabal would be nice,

    do you have a liking for the programing language cobol, and get us mixed up or something, have a pint on me
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  9. #34
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    *rubs his eyes* It's all the excitement of plesk 5.0 - im more worried about spontaniously wetting myself than changing vowels

    I do call you cobol all the time dont i?

    *tries typeing cabal* hmm, much easier to type. I think I might call you cabal for now on

    However! cobal sounds better imo
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  10. #35
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    Originally posted by hosticle
    im more worried about spontaniously wetting myself....
    That would be too much now, wouldn't it??
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  11. #36
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    jc@gw:~$ traceroute perth.myacen.com
    traceroute to perth.myacen.com (209.51.142.186), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 62.225.255.225 (62.225.255.225) 30.706 ms 29.201 ms 49.817 ms
    2 62.225.255.226 (62.225.255.226) 33.566 ms 28.697 ms 50.368 ms
    3 NYC-gw14.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.161) 120.473 ms 115.760 ms 126.76 ms
    4 NYC-gw19.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.134) 160.882 ms 127.488 ms 128.276 ms
    5 205.215.1.9 (205.215.1.9) 159.260 ms 121.837 ms 141.776 ms
    6 g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net (66.28.28.202) 156.547 ms 177.921 ms 175.843 ms
    7 205.215.2.6 (205.215.2.6) 140.450 ms 151.747 ms 160.120 ms
    8 perth.myacen.com (209.51.142.186) 158.675 ms 144.829 ms 161.241 ms

    never saw any problem with the netrail route to dv2.
    In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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  12. #37
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    looks like dv2 still sucks! cogentco dns errors abound!
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  13. #38
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    Originally posted by Myacen
    We don't get many clients from Webhostingtalk. They all expect 50gb's bandwidth for $2/mth here.
    How about $3?!
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    Tracing route to perth.myacen.com [209.51.142.186]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 140 ms 140 ms 151 ms 192.168.254.200
    2 150 ms 160 ms 161 ms 192.168.254.200
    3 150 ms 150 ms 151 ms 172.16.95.28
    4 150 ms 150 ms 151 ms 172.16.95.33
    5 150 ms 140 ms 141 ms 213.120.207.201
    6 140 ms 150 ms 141 ms core2-pos12-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.201]
    7 140 ms 151 ms 150 ms core2-pos7-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.121]
    8 151 ms 130 ms 140 ms pos7-1.mpr2.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.156.217]
    9 160 ms 140 ms 160 ms pos0-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.156.13]
    10 230 ms 220 ms 201 ms so-4-2-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net [208.184.231.21]
    11 211 ms 200 ms 210 ms so-0-0-0.cr1.lga2.us.mfnx.net [208.185.0.246]
    12 270 ms 210 ms 231 ms core1-lga2-oc48.lga4.above.net [64.124.232.6]
    13 300 ms 391 ms 391 ms 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com [64.124.51.186]
    14 400 ms 381 ms 370 ms p4-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.81]
    15 330 ms 291 ms 380 ms p14-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.125]
    16 340 ms 301 ms 290 ms g49.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.242]
    17 310 ms 381 ms 240 ms dv2.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.254]
    18 240 ms 240 ms 241 ms dv2-atl-core-core-a.dv2.net [209.51.131.1]
    19 261 ms 240 ms 230 ms perth.myacen.com [209.51.142.186]

    Trace complete.
    All from my shoddy 56K

    James
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    James, that looks rather normal to me.. perhaps a little slow in the bt area, however its been so long since I used dial up, that could be normal.
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  16. #41
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    LOL

    If you want good trace's get a server in your own country,,,,

    No worries then lol

    Yes ... do one
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  17. #42
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    Haze - it wasn't a problem - soz, should have stated that

    It's fine for 56k from the UK.
    ISDN from the UK is about 120ms - 150ms.

    James
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    Originally posted by ben_h
    looks like dv2 still sucks! cogentco dns errors abound!
    ben, do you have any documentation of the "dns errors"? not sure what you meant. sorry if i am being obtuse
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    looks like dv2 still sucks! cogentco dns errors abound!
    Thank god....... you must be in a different DV2 to us we've had no such problems with our DV2......... D

    NZ rocks
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    Originally posted by ben_h
    looks like dv2 still sucks! cogentco dns errors abound!
    ben, your redundant posting using this flawed information is getting old fast, i was wondering why and what's your point other than to try and bash other hosts??

    using your initial "investigation" on the COGENT NEWS post as an example, you can see MANY other hosted sites / providers have the exact same DNS errors (and some others) that you pointed as being a cogent problem.
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    Originally posted by skylab


    ben, your redundant posting using this flawed information is getting old fast, i was wondering why and what's your point other than to try and bash other hosts??

    using your initial "investigation" on the COGENT NEWS post as an example, you can see MANY other hosted sites / providers have the exact same DNS errors (and some others) that you pointed as being a cogent problem.
    Agree 100%! Stop bashing! If you don't like Cogent then choose one of the other 30+ providers available and stop whining like a little girl... jesus!
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  22. #47
    I remain behind the awful AOL Time Warner - Cogent peer. This situation has persisted for at least 3 weeks though the latency has lowered just recently from the 300's down to the 90's. Is DV2 still multihomed or is it Cogent only? I hope it's not the latter as I was under the impression that I was paying for multihoming.

    What used to be a 20ms - 30ms ping is now lucky to get below 100ms.

    1 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms 10.47.128.1
    2 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms pos0-2-nycmnys-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.100.45]
    3 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms pos2-0-nycmnyr-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.100.90]
    4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms pos3-0-nycmnya-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.97.29]
    5 14 ms 10 ms 12 ms pop1-nye-P0-2.atdn.net [66.185.137.193]
    6 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms bb2-nye-P5-0.atdn.net [66.185.141.18]
    7 15 ms 15 ms 13 ms bb2-vie-P8-0.atdn.net [66.185.153.118]
    8 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms bb2-ash-P15-2.atdn.net [66.185.152.41]
    9 13 ms 15 ms 15 ms pop2-ash-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.139.214]
    10 90 ms 92 ms 92 ms CogentTestPeering.atdn.net [66.185.141.242]
    11 96 ms 101 ms 96 ms g3-0.pr1.atl01.netrail.net [66.28.28.202]
    12 95 ms 96 ms 95 ms 205.215.2.6
    13 96 ms 96 ms 96 ms velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]
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    Exactly, I think it's cogent/netrail only, but netrail is owned by cogent bit misleading
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    Originally posted by MrE

    What used to be a 20ms - 30ms ping is now lucky to get below 100ms.
    What exactly is wrong with having 100ms pings?
    DV2 is very cheap i.e. not a 500$/month place so pings can't be 20-30ms cause if it was all 500$ places would be out of business.

    I really cannot understand all this fuss. DV2 is multihomed but that means that if Cogent fails completely the backup kicks in. AFAIK the backup is 10times expensive then the main line so running on backup when pings go high would wreck the place financially.

    At HE.NET I have 20ms pings and 20+carriers but hey!: 300$/mbit and not 35$ (Cogent)
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