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[SrvOutsource]

We have 6 of the following specials.

Full 19" Cabinet (Approx. 42U)
20A Power Included (Standard twist-n-lock plug)
10Mbps Cogent Mulithomed Bandwidth

US$1,000.00/Month
US$500.00 Setup Fee (One Time)

If you have any questions, please e-mail us at: sales@serveroutsource.net

[PHP50]

Ahh
10Mbps Cogent Mulithomed Bandwidth
care to explain that a little bit more, if it is only through one provider (Cogent) it is not multi-homed.

[netdude]

yeah, i am confused... who are the providers for the multihoming?

[SrvOutsource]

Epik is the secondary to the CogentCo bandwidth.

[netdude]

but epik is essentially cogent bandwidth as well... so its cogent + cogent under a different name... heh

[SrvOutsource]

netdude,

You may want to recheck whereever/whoever you got that information from.
It is incorrect.

Epik resells Level 3 bandwidth, not Cogent.
When you do a trace you will see this, Cogent isn't at any of the hops.

[neverless]

srvoutsource

your own server is hosted on epik, here a traceroute to your server:

[...]
6 p4-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com
7 p14-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com
8 p15-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com
9 p15-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com
10 g49.ba01.b002802-1.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com
11 miamfllrh07-custbr-fastduck.ip.epik.net
12 66.232.5.6
[...]

so SORRY but epik is ONLY the last hop before your gateway. If CogentCo network is down at hop 9 (as it IS often down in Florida), then your epik backup is useless.

Right ?

[raq4less]

Originally posted by neverless
your own server is hosted on epik, here a traceroute to your server:

10 g49.ba01.b002802-1.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com
11 miamfllrh07-custbr-fastduck.ip.epik.net
12 66.232.5.6
[...]

so SORRY but epik is ONLY the last hop before your gateway. If CogentCo network is down at hop 9 (as it IS often down in Florida), then your epik backup is useless.

Right ?

Epik has peering agreements with Level3 and Aparently now Cogent! (That's brand new)

By trying to prove Serveroutsource wrong and bash Cogent in the same sentence, you actually fail at both attempts. Your comment about Cogent being DOWN often in Florida is different from my actual experience over the past 6 months. Can you provide proof?

What is actually being proven here and by those Tracert's is that Cogent has yet another quality Peering agreement. Therefore, strengthing it's Network. Therefore showing the value in Serveroutsource's posted offer.

A complement for serveroutsource.net from a competitor, here on WHT???........ That's gotta be a first!

If you would disclose the full tracert, everyone would see that before the cogent hops is a single psi hop to Level3 anyhow. Most all of the carriers are BGP connected via their peering arrangements, so your "OMG It's Down" doesn't hold much water anyway.

I monitor my Network (Yes it's Miami Cogent/Epik too) from 3 different locations in the US (West Coast, Far NorthEast, and Midwest). What I find amusing, is that when one of my monitor's shows my Network as being Down, The others report no problem at all and my internal MRTG tracking shows the Network as UP.

I can recommend Serveroutsource as being an Honest business person above the age of 18 (considered a minority here on WHT) with a quality offering in a Fine telco grade datacenter in Miami. Although I'd rather have the customer myself, the customer isn't going to get "taken" by using this particular competitor of mine.

Go pick on the Kiddy's trying to scam people out of Hardware with their bogus colo offers. This guy's legit!

[jayjay]

Your comment about Cogent being DOWN often in Florida is different from my actual experience over the past 6 months.

I don't know about it being down, but I know it sucks.

[neverless]

Your comment about Cogent being DOWN often in Florida is different from my actual experience over the past 6 months. Can you provide proof?

We had a 1/2 rack with WholesaleColo few months ago and had to cancel it due to connectivity problems. We had failures of 1/2 minutes everyday. This kind of failures may not be recorded if you check your connectivity each 30 minutes...

BTW:
http://www.Webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=68977

If you would disclose the full tracert, everyone would see that before the cogent hops is a single psi hop to Level3 anyhow. Most all of the carriers are BGP connected via their peering arrangements, so your "OMG It's Down" doesn't hold much water anyway.

A single hop ??? Kidding ? BTW look at hop 15... 449 ms

1 dsl-64-34-232-6.telocity.com
2 route-216-227-81-1.telocity.com
3 216.227.80.124
4 ge-1-2-0-50.core2.mia.tlct.net
5 ae0-5.core1.mia.tlct.net
6 so-1-0-1.core1.was.tlct.net
7 ge-0-0-0.border1.was.tlct.net
8 mae-east.cogentco.com
9 * p15-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com
10 p14-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com
11 p15-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com
12 p15-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com
13 g50.ba01.b002802-1.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com
14 miamfllrh07-custbr-fastduck.ip.epik.net
15 66.232.32.2 (66.232.32.2) 128.225 ms 449.126 ms 225.849 ms
16 66.232.32.6 (66.232.32.6)
17 raq4less.com (66.232.63.20)

I can recommend Serveroutsource as being an Honest business person above the age of 18 (considered a minority here on WHT) with a quality offering in a Fine telco grade datacenter in Miami.

Hey, I don't have any contract with srvoutsource, i'm not a competitor and i'm older than you i think. I'm not bashing. I'm looking for buying a rack but as i was a customer of wholesalecolo, i NEVER got an Epik backup with their Cogent line. That's all so if someone can explain me if it's possible i'll be convinced. All tracert you can make show Epik does not work as a backup if p15-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com is down or VERY SLOW which is the same for me...

[jayjay]

[..]
9 p6-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.217) 6.561 ms 3.420 ms 2.553 ms
10 p15-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.62) 4.273 ms 6.893 ms 7.847 ms
11 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) 23.054 ms 23.770 ms 15.856 ms
12 p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) 24.030 ms 39.051 ms 23.874 ms
13 p15-0.core01.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.25) 24.234 ms 26.453 ms 23.883 ms
14 p13-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.98) 32.931 ms 29.849 ms 49.130 ms
15 p15-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.46) 76.417 ms 47.382 ms 49.218 ms
16 p5-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.57) 53.626 ms 58.391 ms 55.106 ms
17 g49.ba01.b002802-1.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.6.42) 61.524 ms 64.235 ms 56.109 ms
18 miamfllrh07-custbr-fastduck.ip.epik.net (216.22.64.62) 59.462 ms 60.431 ms 62.776 ms
19 66.232.5.6 (66.232.5.6) 55.950 ms 59.252 ms 53.690 ms
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *
[....]

Those times are pretty bad from Verio(what that box is on) to Cogent.

[SrvOutsource]

neverless,

The server is on Cogent, not Epik.
The Epik hop you see is a cross connect we have between 2 buildings.

I can not say much about Wholesalecolo, but us and another company split the clients.
The bandwidth has also been done correctly.

If you would like, please e-mail me directly at dkeefer@serveroutsource.net, and I can send you an IP on Epik to do a trace on.

BTW Thanks for everyone trying to PING or trace to serveroutsource.net.
Our firewall had a busy time. :\

[netdude]

so with epik reselling level3 bandwidth, if i do a trace from within the level3 network to you guys, it should go through epik??

Tampa, FL to ServerOutSorce - 104ms - http://alice.eng.level3.net/tracerou...routsource.net

Miami, FL to ServerOutSource - 108ms - http://alice.eng.level3.net/tracerou...routsource.net

thats an example of cogent routing and their wonderful peering... bouncing around the wee continent just to get to a place in the same city, or atleast damn close by... i mean... epik is a very small network, they should have feeds to level3 closer than cogent does... eh?

[SrvOutsource]

netdude,

As mentioned before,

"The server is on Cogent, not Epik.
The Epik hop you see is a cross connect we have between 2 buildings.

I can not say much about Wholesalecolo, but us and another company split the clients.
The bandwidth has also been done correctly.

If you would like, please e-mail me directly at dkeefer@serveroutsource.net, and I can send you an IP on Epik to do a trace on.

BTW Thanks for everyone trying to PING or trace to serveroutsource.net.
Our firewall had a busy time. :\"

[RackMy.com]

BTW Thanks for everyone trying to PING or trace to serveroutsource.net. Our firewall had a busy time.

If your firewall was busy with just ICMP traffic, you may need a new firewall