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    Question Can I create accounts without billing?

    HI!

    Im going to create a hosting service for local clients so the payment will be directly in my office.

    It is possible through WHM that my clients can register and activate their accounts immediately omitting any step of payment?.

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    You can use the script that is on http://www.zubrag.com/scripts/create...hm-account.php by modifying as your needs.
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    Thanks dhcart for your help. But I cant yet test this script because I have not chosen my hosting provider.

    Nevertheless I assume that I can use and modify it for which I need.

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    You can create another form to capture client information.
    Then on the next step, create hosting account.
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    WHM isn't a billing system, therefore it has no idea if someone has paid or not. You can most certainly create and delete accounts manually.

    An online billing system is usually much easier, but it isn't required, if you don't want to do it manually, you can modify the scripts or use an online billing system without setting a price. Therefore they can sign up, then you can invoice them. However, why is this needed? If your going to do it how you are, it would be easier to just do it manually.


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    Quote Originally Posted by corzel View Post
    It is possible through WHM that my clients can register and activate their accounts immediately omitting any step of payment?.
    Its a bad idea for immediate account activation, whether payment is online or offline, you should be able to keep a check on who sign up with you. Immediate account activation without verification can bring you lot of trouble.

    And even if you are going to receive payment directly in your office, its better to use a billing and automation system to keep your operations managed.

    So check with WHMCS, AWBS, whoiscart and few others if they support offline payment methods.

    There are also some free open source scripts out there you can use, like http://www.solid-state.org http://www.phpcoin.com

    A good list is here http://www.webhostingtalk.com/wiki/B...ation_software
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    It would be better to create accounts manually via WebHost Manager in your case. If your clients purchased the service through your website, you could use such billing systems like WHMCS, ClientExec, WHM AutoPilot or ModernBill where you could activate accounts if the clients paid for the service and they would create accounts automatically on the destination server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corzel View Post
    Thanks dhcart for your help. But I cant yet test this script because I have not chosen my hosting provider.

    Nevertheless I assume that I can use and modify it for which I need.
    Then again, you might select a provider which doesnt use a system as limited as cpanel and whm...

    many solutions come with an integrated billing system and yes, you can set your plans to be free or without billing - no need for any further steps or actions...

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    We also sell only in te local market and use only offline payments. Still we use WHMCS for the rich features it provides.

    Even though we are selling only in local market (Bangladesh) and USD is not even listed in pricing, 80% of our signups come from USA. (And unfortunately we have to let the orders go).

    If you think of an instant activation, get ready to have your server filled with spammers. (And they wont be from your local area )
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotcomUNDERGROUND View Post
    We also sell only in te local market and use only offline payments. Still we use WHMCS for the rich features it provides.

    Even though we are selling only in local market (Bangladesh) and USD is not even listed in pricing, 80% of our signups come from USA. (And unfortunately we have to let the orders go).

    If you think of an instant activation, get ready to have your server filled with spammers. (And they wont be from your local area )
    just moderate all accounts and do not activate an account until you have verified its authenticity.

    Almost every provisioning system will have an extensive fraud detection system based on geo IP and various other criteria which will effectively help a client weed out fraud orders - billing or without billing accounts have little impact on this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CartikaHosting View Post
    Then again, you might select a provider which doesnt use a system as limited as cpanel and whm...

    many solutions come with an integrated billing system and yes, you can set your plans to be free or without billing - no need for any further steps or actions...
    Something like Hsphere, that Cartika[& others] use, might be something to look into.
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    Corzel:

    You mention that customers are going to pay for hosting directly in your office. How are they going to pay you when they renew? Are they also going to pay you in your office or send a check?

    Are the customers going to actually use a computer at your office to create their accounts or are you going to do it for them?

    Most Web hosting billing software should handle your needs from provisioning the account to managing bills when they come due, even though they may pay at your door. It's simply invoiced based billing as opposed to credit card payments. Customers are just paying the invoice on site.
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    I ask this question because I dont think to use a online system for payment because the cost of each transaction is about US$2 (Im in Colombia and is too expensive to send the money to my bank account) and that is too high if I plan to charge around $6 monthly for shared hosting.

    Quote Originally Posted by chenetwork View Post
    Corzel:

    You mention that customers are going to pay for hosting directly in your office. How are they going to pay you when they renew? Are they also going to pay you in your office or send a check?

    Are the customers going to actually use a computer at your office to create their accounts or are you going to do it for them?

    Most Web hosting billing software should handle your needs from provisioning the account to managing bills when they come due, even though they may pay at your door. It's simply invoiced based billing as opposed to credit card payments. Customers are just paying the invoice on site.

    So, my clients open their accounts from their computers and then they come to my office or send me a check or put the money in my bank account in any local bank.

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    What about people who are not local, they will open account, will abuse your system, will send thousands of spam and will do other illegal activities, and will not come to your office to pay.

    How are you going to deal with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corzel View Post
    So, my clients open their accounts from their computers and then they come to my office or send me a check or put the money in my bank account in any local bank.
    You simply need your billing system to accept registration for hosting, but put the account in a holding queue until the customers come and pay in person. Once they pay, then you can activate their account from within the billing system.
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    So you need a system, where your local clients place request for opening a hosting account with you, once they have paid you, you will execute the order.

    This system will then create the hosting account and will also take care of billing, it will remind your clients of renewals and payments, using this system you can see:

    1) Who's payment is due and who had paid,
    2) Billing & payment history,

    So have a look at WHMCS http://www.whmcs.com its a billing and automation system that support offline payment methods.

    A little investment will save you lot of headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinsar View Post
    What about people who are not local, they will open account, will abuse your system, will send thousands of spam and will do other illegal activities, and will not come to your office to pay.

    How are you going to deal with that?
    Yes, youre right. Ive been thinking to create an entry hosting package with 0 email accounts, 1 ftp and limited features and after I verify the payment I will upgrade a full packages with all that I offer.

    Anyway, Im here trying to find the best model to run this business (new for me) in the better way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corzel View Post
    Ive been thinking to create an entry hosting package with 0 email accounts, 1 ftp and limited features and after I verify the payment I will upgrade a full packages with all that I offer.
    That will increase your workload a lot.
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    And as you still have to chose your hosting provider, there are many who will provide some billing script for free along with the reseller account.

    So seek them and see what suits you most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinsar View Post
    So you need a system, where your local clients place request for opening a hosting account with you, once they have paid you, you will execute the order.

    This system will then create the hosting account and will also take care of billing, it will remind your clients of renewals and payments, using this system you can see:

    1) Who's payment is due and who had paid,
    2) Billing & payment history,

    So have a look at WHMCS http://www.whmcs.com its a billing and automation system that support offline payment methods.

    A little investment will save you lot of headache.

    Do you know if ClientEXEC billing software can do the same?

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    Most probably yes, just clear your queries with the developers of clientexec directly.
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