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    Hello. I own a semi-popular downloads website which I host on one server while the actual files/downloads are hosted on another server. This downloads server is very low-end ( AMD Sempron 3000, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB HD, CentOS with lighttpd, no control panel, etc.) and is connected via a 100Mbit shared line with a 3300GB bandwidth limit. Originally, I had it on a 10Mbit dedicated unmetered line but I hoped that by upgrading to the 100Mbit, I'd get better burst speeds, faster transfers/downloads, and a bit more bandwidth in general. Well, this doesn't seem to be the case so I'm looking for a new server or file hosting service hopefully on a better and faster network.

    Right now, I'm considering the following companies/services:

    * Profithost.net - Decent Dedicated server with nice bandwidth
    * Redhostservers.com - OK Dedicated server with awesome bandwidth
    * Server4you.com - Great Dedicated server with good bandwidth

    * File-services.com - Decently priced pure file hosting with OK features
    * MegaUpload Business account with Hotlink Quota - Decently priced pure file hosting with nice features

    Any suggestions, reactions, concerns, or any other information you have on these or others would be great. Thanks.

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    server4you.de can get you cheaper prices =P
    And I guess you meant redhotservers.com, they have some servers which are actually reselling under FDCServers. You may wanna do some more research on them first
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    Yes, sorry, meant redhotservers.com . Thanks for the info.

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    Well, as I said, I'm still looking, but getting very tired of looking. I wish I could have a bigger budget, even double what I have now to afford like a 1Gbps unmetered server from fdcservers.net or something (which would be 50Mbit average), but since I've lost a lot of traffic on my site recently, ad revenue has dropped so much I don't make any profit and I don't have enough hosting clients/revenue coming in yet to cover extra expenses either.

    I think that by the end of this week, if I still don't know what's going on yet, I may just bite the bullet and increase my budget to $450 or something to try and get something better and make my community happy. Damn that's a lot more than I wanted to spend, but there's a reason for credit cards right?

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    Check out pooled.net for their 100mbps unmetered plan or maybe their gigabit server plan. How much bandwidth do you use per month?

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    Whats your current budget?
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    @biggerboy
    Thanks for the info. Bandwidth usage kind of varies and due to a recent spike in traffic, I've been using more this month than usual. If things keep up, I'm guessing 4000 GB or so, but it's not the total bandwidth that I'm looking for, it's the throughput, the speed of the transfers.

    @midnightsoftware
    Sorry, I thought I mentioned it above. Currently it's $200 but if I really can't find anything soon, I may have to double that or so (and personally lose money) to get something that works. We'll see when the time comes.

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    LittlBUGer,

    Check the offers section here on WHT. You should be able to find something in that price range ($200) with a good network, 3000GB Bandwidth and a 100Mbps port that isn't shared. I think it was probably a combination of bad network and the shared port that was slowing you down.
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    Thanks, I appreciate your reply, but I just don't see how any host (any good host) could afford to give me a non-shared 100Mbit line for $200 a month. That just sounds too far-fetched but I will look in the offers section though as I haven't done that yet. Thanks.

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    Well you don't need a non-shared 100Mbit host if you only use 4000GB.

    Try olm.net. They can link multiple servers together, and they offer 2500GB servers from $30 or so. Just make sure you are not distributing copyrighted content or you'll be screwed there. Well anywhere else as well actually.

    Another option would be UK2 / RapidSwitch and the like. 10,000GB traffic from ~40 pounds ($80)
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    Have you considered multiple cheap 100Mb connect servers with 3TB / month? Two would give you 6TB per month, and allow you to spread the load a little better.

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    My very original setup, when I first moved my files to pure download servers, was two identical servers, each with a 10Mbit dedicated line. I eventually hated this though as management of two servers was always horrible (meaning time consuming) and I prefer to just have a single download link for my users instead of several to choose from. So, when my bandwidth needs came down a bit along with the traffic, I consolidated by getting rid of one of the servers. Then I noticed speed wasn't that great when I had 50 or so users downloading at once, so I upgraded to a 100Mbit shared line with a 3300GB bandwidth limit. Now, speed still is an issue.

    So I don't want to do multiple servers and I would like more than 3TB bandwidth just to be safe (or at least ability to upgrade for cheap).

    Related to this, I noticed that midphase.com dedicated servers had 10TB bandwidth limit on a 100Mbit line. I talked with their support for a long time and they guaranteed me (after talking with their tech) that it truly was a 100Mbit dedicated non-shared line with a 10TB bandwidth limit (so not fully unmetered). Has anyone had any experience with them with this? I know they get their servers from softlayer, but this offer seems too good to be true for the price.

    Thanks again for your help everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlBUGer View Post
    Has anyone had any experience with them with this?
    Probably not. This was just announced a week or two ago.

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    Ahh, well that would explain it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlBUGer View Post
    My very original setup, when I first moved my files to pure download servers, was two identical servers, each with a 10Mbit dedicated line. I eventually hated this though as management of two servers was always horrible (meaning time consuming) and I prefer to just have a single download link for my users instead of several to choose from. So, when my bandwidth needs came down a bit along with the traffic, I consolidated by getting rid of one of the servers. Then I noticed speed wasn't that great when I had 50 or so users downloading at once, so I upgraded to a 100Mbit shared line with a 3300GB bandwidth limit. Now, speed still is an issue.

    So I don't want to do multiple servers and I would like more than 3TB bandwidth just to be safe (or at least ability to upgrade for cheap).

    Related to this, I noticed that midphase.com dedicated servers had 10TB bandwidth limit on a 100Mbit line. I talked with their support for a long time and they guaranteed me (after talking with their tech) that it truly was a 100Mbit dedicated non-shared line with a 10TB bandwidth limit (so not fully unmetered). Has anyone had any experience with them with this? I know they get their servers from softlayer, but this offer seems too good to be true for the price.

    Thanks again for your help everyone.
    It is through softlayer, they have a great network so I would imagine you would be able to push it.

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    Yes, I know the press release, but is it really true or not is the question? I have a hosting friend who contacted softlayer (as that's who he goes with and has for a long time) and is saying otherwise, but he didn't know about the press release either. So now I'm conflicted, lol. :-\

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlBUGer View Post
    Yes, I know the press release, but is it really true or not is the question? I have a hosting friend who contacted softlayer (as that's who he goes with and has for a long time) and is saying otherwise, but he didn't know about the press release either. So now I'm conflicted, lol. :-\
    Hey there,

    We've been getting a lot of "flack" for the 10TB transfer offering, but I can assure you that this is reserved for each server we offer. Again, this is due to a very unique arrangement we've been able to secure with SoftLayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlBUGer View Post
    Yes, I know the press release, but is it really true or not is the question? I have a hosting friend who contacted softlayer (as that's who he goes with and has for a long time) and is saying otherwise, but he didn't know about the press release either. So now I'm conflicted, lol. :-\
    I tend to trust Softlayer's press release more then your friend who has no idea about their internal relations.

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    Yes, it seems more and more that way (that my friend got the wrong information). No worries, as I think I'm intrigued enough to try it out and have actually emailed the sales person I chatted with yesterday (at 3 different times mind you) to get things started.

    Another crazy deal that I noticed with midphase.com:

    BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE OFFER!

    Here's how it works: For every month that you pre-pay, you'll receive another dedicated server of equal value FREE! for the same time period. So, if you prepay for 6 months, you'll receive an additional dedicated server for 6 months!
    I will let you all know my results after I give everything a try. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlBUGer View Post
    Yes, it seems more and more that way (that my friend got the wrong information). No worries, as I think I'm intrigued enough to try it out and have actually emailed the sales person I chatted with yesterday (at 3 different times mind you) to get things started.

    Another crazy deal that I noticed with midphase.com:



    I will let you all know my results after I give everything a try. Thanks.
    I think you'll like what we have to offer.

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    Just been reading this thread (and registered) as I'm in a similar situation ...on the hunt for good bandwidth at a cheap price. If (as is my situation) it's mostly just bandwidth you need and not processor power, there are bargains out there in 'resold' servers ...I have next to no server side scripting, and actually resent having to lease an 'overpowered' server with Celeron processor, 80Gb hard disk and 1GB RAM! Processor load averages of ~0.0 most of the time! I pay around 50 or $100/month for 10,000gb/month.

    I'm currently shifting > 7,000gb per month, but my daily bandwidth graph is a bell-shaped curve, so half the time my server is massively underused. If economy is the thing, would it not be best to strike a deal with someone whose visitors are mostly in another time-zone? Do people do this? It seems like a good idea. I'm in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frivster View Post
    Just been reading this thread (and registered) as I'm in a similar situation ...on the hunt for good bandwidth at a cheap price. If (as is my situation) it's mostly just bandwidth you need and not processor power, there are bargains out there in 'resold' servers ...I have next to no server side scripting, and actually resent having to lease an 'overpowered' server with Celeron processor, 80Gb hard disk and 1GB RAM! Processor load averages of ~0.0 most of the time! I pay around 50 or $100/month for 10,000gb/month.

    I'm currently shifting > 7,000gb per month, but my daily bandwidth graph is a bell-shaped curve, so half the time my server is massively underused. If economy is the thing, would it not be best to strike a deal with someone whose visitors are mostly in another time-zone? Do people do this? It seems like a good idea. I'm in the UK.
    Would you happen to be streaming? May want to check out Rapidswitch who also offers 10,000 GB bandwidth plans.

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    Thanks. I've booked-marked them! Thing is, if like me, you have a site pumping out around 7,000Gb month, adding a server of the kind you mention DOUBLES my capacity. So it just sits there wasted until the site organically grows into it. It seems like such a shame when that capacity could be traded somehow. I suppose the only 'plus' is that I'm not 'annoying' my provider by not maxing out all the time.

    I run a casual games website, so in theory there are far more adverts displayed per gb downloaded than with a site like LittlBUGer's big-files-downloads-site. Although maybe my visitors are mostly kids without credit cards!

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    As an update, though I'm still transferring my files over, I've tested downloading a 580 MB file in several locations. On any residential connection, I max it out instantly. And from a 100Mbit dedicated server, I can get close to 11 MB/s transfer speed, which is near 88Mbps, which is great to me! I hope I can get this all of the time once my users actually start downloading. It's looking good thus far!

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