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    Question Network Solutions does it again - now with subdomains

    I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but did you read this;
    Network Solutions Hijacking Unassigned Sub-Domains

    This time Netsol are targeting subdomains. I am sort of hoping that this is some how of prank, I really hope so... A late april fool's, you know?!

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    Wow... does that affect all domains registered at NS? So whatever.mydomain.com would show random ads?

    That's crazy.. they could be showing questionable ads that are showed on a site with kid-friendly content, all without the site owner knowing. Wouldn't this open them up to (yet another) lawsuit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CArmstrong View Post
    Wow... does that affect all domains registered at NS? So whatever.mydomain.com would show random ads?
    I don't know mate, I don't have any domains directly with netsol. Perhaps someone that does can answer your question.

    This is ridiculous if it is accurate!

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    I doubt it's a april fool's joke

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    I have a customer who has a NS domain. I just tried typing in random stuff in the sub domain and it seems to work fine. I don't think NS has done this....yet
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    Seems totally being true, take the domain from the article, drop it in i.e. http://www.myipneighbors.com/ and get a large lists of other domains, pick any and put a random subdomain infront of it ... my case mytest040forwht.oneofthedomains.com and yep, a nice advertisement pops up.

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    While I think this is totally ridiculous.. Fortunately for some, what netsol has done will only affect users who's domains are pointing to their nameservers
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    Quote Originally Posted by diligent View Post
    While I think this is totally ridiculous.. Fortunately for some, what netsol has done will only affect users who's domains are pointing to their nameservers
    Can't agree more. It only affects domains on their nameservers.
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    But still... that is not the way to go..
    I'm glad I'm with namecheap.
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    The example they give is gotgame.com hosted at NetSol.
    I tried a subdomain on this and got a "page not found".
    I also tried other sites on that IP and also received "page not found".

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    That's cause whoever running that domain have done something to it since.

    The normal response from a request to a non-existing (sub)domain is something along the line of "Could not locate remote server" or "Server not found", and not a 404, and definitely not a 404 page being returned by the server with a HTTP 200 code.

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    I repost my reply to this same thread at NamePros..

    You'd be surprised to learn that this is not an uncommon practice with registrars and webhosts. Although I haven't looked into it in a while because it's entire preventable by ensuring that your subdomain host records are properly configured for...
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    Even so, this is a despicable practice if it does happen; lowest common denominator stuff. I'm a long-time GoDaddy person myself; reasonable prices (especially with coupons!), and the domains always work quickly.
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    Or just use your own nameservers.. That's probably what most people do anyways, and is the best option at least with netsol..

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    I think that netsol should no longer be allowed to sell domains.
    After the past crap with domains and now this issue, they are a JOKE!!
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    I doubt if most people have their own nameservers. I think most people using shared hosting or just parking their domains wouldn't use there own nameservers. What would be the benefit to them? How would they get the diversity of geographical reach for redundancy purposes? What software would they use?
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    I've always avoided Network Solutions like a plague. Their business practices are laughable and they appear to have no respect whatsoever for their customers. They wonder why they are losing their market share so quickly... The combination of their high prices + poor business practices = everybody is going to get their domains elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coax View Post
    Or just use your own nameservers.. That's probably what most people do anyways, and is the best option at least with netsol..
    Well sure, but this is not the issue here.

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    Well, of course if they have shared hosting, but if you don't want them doing it and you DON'T host with them then using your own nameservers is better.

    This sounds more like they automatically add *.domain.com and point that to the ad page, which isn't anything new, or bad..

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    @coax You are talking about a practical implementation/effect, not the core-issue at hand.

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    Does anyone have an example?

    Is it really an issue?

    I can't replicate this on the NetSol hosted domains that I have tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techno View Post
    Is it really an issue?
    Some folks choose to make this an issue.

    Interesting result you're getting, Techno. As in the "subdomain" won't resolve anywhere if you put in like ww, ***, jerk, dumb, anything before the domain name/s that's using Network Solutions' nameservers?

    Hmm, the one in question from TechCrunch is probably a freak of nature, then.

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    It is an issue as it

    a) Wasn't opted-in to from the clients
    b) used to make money off the clients' domains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techno View Post
    Is it really an issue?
    It's a non-issue if you have the subdomains WWW, @, * all pointing to the same place in your dns.

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    Network Solutions are cyber squatting on their customers' domain names, that is the issue here. It doesn't matter if one can change nameservers to avoid it or not - it is about the initial act.

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    Why single out Netsol then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu2 View Post
    It's a non-issue if you have the subdomains WWW, @, * all pointing to the same place in your dns.

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    It doesn't matter how my dns is set up. My domain is not Netsols property.

    Netsol has no right to do anything that makes them money off my domain or confuses my customers once the domain is registered to me.

    All sub domains under my domain are my property and Netsol is trespassing and hi jacking my traffic.


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    I agree. So what are you going to do about it? Let them continue, or redirect those sub-domains to your home page. Which is good practice. So you don't lose any traffic.
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    This really isn't surprising anymore. However, it's just amazing what they get away with. They are on of the most expensive registrar's, claiming the best service yet provide the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu2 View Post
    Why single out Netsol then?
    What I know, other registrars didn't start to add a wildcard entry in their customers' dns-records like this.

    Okay, it may be correct according to Network Solution's own ToS, but does that make it ethical or something to be applauded? No.

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    I repeat what I said in my first post in this thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by stu
    You'd be surprised to learn that this is not an uncommon practice with registrars and webhosts. Although I haven't looked into it in a while because it's entire preventable by ensuring that your subdomain host records are properly configured
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    Not uncommon? With domains that are already hosted with content? (only that they happen to use their registrar's nameservers?)

    Hmm..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu2 View Post
    I repeat what I said in my first post in this thread...
    Can you name some ? just curious which those others are so i can stay away from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu
    I haven't looked into it in a while because it's entire preventable by ensuring that your subdomain host records are properly configured
    From memory Registerfly used to do this. I have forgotten the others. You can test out your registrar by typing in an invalid subdomain url, ex. http://invalid.example.com. If you get something else other than one of your pages you need to redirect the subdomain * (*=all other subdomains) to point to your home page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu2 View Post
    Registerfly
    Ah yeah, we all know what an upstanding company they were

    Worst, Example, Ever

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    So did you try http://invalid.example.com on your registered domains? Everything work out ok?
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    Who are you asking? I'm not a client of netsol and don't use their nameservers. I am pointing to the general practice of squatting on their clients' domain names.

    Furthermore; I don't add wildcard entries to my dns-records as a general rule. Maybe you do, but I try not to for a few reasons.

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    I was asking you (or anybody else in this thread). What are the reasons you would not want to add wildcard entries to you subdomain DNS entries? For me. It makes no sense to lose that traffic. So you didn't try it yet?
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