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    Why are you guys so against spammers?

    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
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    You have got to be kidding me!!!

    For one SPAM is unsolicited email. In other words it is email that we didn't ask to receive. SPAM takes up space on servers, CPU Power(process the crap), and wasted time having to delete SPAM!!!

    Junk Mail is similar but when i get junk mail and I don't want to receive anymore, usually you can call the company and they will remove you from their mailing list. The reason why they remove you because it costs money to send you stuff in the mail.

    When people receive SPAM, the chances of being remove is unlikely. It cost little to nothing to send SPAM so there is little incentive to remove a person from an email list.
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    Hmm, you make money ruining IP's for hosts, causing people to need spam blockers, and being a constant bother to the average person... congrats. I'm sure you can sleep well at night.
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    This would be better discussed in the Web Hosting Lounge. Moved.
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    Spam is annoying messages that we would not like to receive. In a way it's an irritating way of advertising and isn't very professional. If someone were to advertise through banners that's fine but constantly posting everywhere or mass amounts of emails isn't very attracting. Plus, as stated earlier, spam takes up diskspace, bandwidth, memory, and CPU power that could be used for something else.

    This thread seems pointless as nobody likes spam except spamisland. Can I have your email spamisland? I would like to send some spam to you .
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    April 1st was a couple days ago...
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    lets put it this way, you worked for weeks advertising and trying to get people to get active on your forum, instead you see 100s of ppl just spamming and filling your site with porn and warez instead... would you not be upset? after spending probably $100s on advertising and all you get is spammers..? think bout it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
    For a start I don't know any big money earners who only do 1/2 the work to make twice as much. If you were serious you'd work 100% and earn the maximum possible.

    You seem to put all members on here under umbrella and assume we only do one job (I have many companies running online and offline) which is a bad approach and another misconception of yours and leaves me with no other alternative other than to believe you're some 14 - 15 year old kid who's got up early to go on his morning paper round or a misguided former high school drop out with no business acumen whatsoever.

    Spammers are lower down the food chain...generally the bottom feeders.

    I don't hate them...I suppose for every seat there's an arse.

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    I’ll make my reason for not liking spammers simple
    1. You’re all very annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
    "you guys"

    You're being much too polite.

    The entire world hates spam.

    IRS auditors are Mother Teresas in comparison to spammers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.

    You do half the work and we do the rest!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by serverminds View Post
    "you guys"


    IRS auditors are Mother Teresas in comparison to spammers.
    Not The irs is an out right violation of everything america stands for
    They have powers they shouldnt special courts etc...
    the only other special court iv heard of late is for terrorist.
    please dont put anybody in a catagory along the lines of the
    the Irs.
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    This thread is classic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaethco View Post
    April 1st was a couple days ago...
    I was thinking the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
    Get thee behind me Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob View Post
    Get thee behind me Satan.
    You sure you want to do that mate?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
    This has got to be the funniest thread I've read in 5 years. Was posted a bit late for an April Fools prank though.

    Why do people hate spammers so much? Because they are self absorbed , cocky , no good, disrespectful punks. You want to make money, get off your *** and earn it.

    Spammers take advantage of genuine concerns and manipulate them into working for them. For example, we've all seen the "paypal security" emails, or the "insert bank here" emails, or even the "viagra" emails. Each and every one of these is illegal, some in many cases, due to prescriptions being placed illegally, etc.

    Best of all, spammers cost money. Every email sent, every bit of bandwidth used (stolen) costs money, both for the receiver (primarily) and for the sender.

    I'll give a perfectly good example of the above statement:
    In under 4 days, I've processed an average of 2602.2 messages per day. This leads to 10259 messages. This is to be expected, because I've got close to 100 domains, and love the work I do. Close to 2/3 of that though (7675) was spam, out and out spam. These were rejected due to multiple things, such as RBLs, BAYES, spamtraps (someone mailing a domain I don't actually expect any mail for),etc.

    Now, that's over 100 messages an hour, 2-3 a minute. Wrap your head around that a second, and you'll see that yes, it's a lot of mail, and yes, it's wrong. Now, let's go one step further and figure out just how much this spam costs.

    Firstly, bandwidth costs. It's rather hard to figure these out, but we'll say that each mail is 100-200kb in size which is a conservative measure. Using my own stats, that's 1-2 gig of bandwidth just in 4 days. No sweat, I've got bandwidth up the tailpipe , so we'll let that one go. Figure 15-20 gig a month, and it adds up pretty quick, don't it.

    Secondly, personell costs. Here's the real fun part. My own time (to me) is worth $35/hr, due to my experience,the amount of work I do. Now figure 2 mails a minute, 20-30 seconds per mail (downloading, gettting attachments, etc), by god, I'm actually losing my entire day processing all of this. Thankfully, I don't, in fact do it, but ASSP handles it all for me, and believe me that thing is a beauty.

    Spammers are the scum of the earth, quite literally. They're individuals who will do anything to make a buck, regardless of what it costs others. They're illegal as all hell, and if they're not, they push the lines of morality. There is no question, spammers deserve a fate worse than death.

    You can pull the "don't hate" card all you like, the fact is that you're committing illegal activities. Nobody in their right mind would host you legally, so you go through and do things illegally, and then cause more pain to everyone else.

    My personal punishment for spammers?

    Put the men on an island, force them to take that special blue pill every few hours and walk around without clothing so they are forced to look at the "size" of someone else's "manhood" all day long.

    Put the women on yet another island, force them to take those diet pills constantly and get 'breast enlargement'.

    For the rest, bury 'em alive!

    Spam is evil, nd until goverments stop condoning and legalizing it (*cough* Can-Spam *cough), we won't really see a solution. Of course, we won't see a solution until ISP's, DC's and hosts start taking control of their own networks, either.
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    They are wasting my time - and time is money, you know. I am spending my time in vain, deleting all "blue pills", "enlargements", "rolex replicas" or "Africa princes sitting on a bag with dollars". I could use this time more usefull.
    They are trying to scam me, because if I am so stupid to buy anything, I would get nothing.
    They are annoying. They force me to use multiply emails, employ spamfilters. And as for industry, the spammers are very costly.
    The punishment? Well, I would force them to use blue pills and to make enlargements every day so that they enlarge (you know what) to such lenght, that their manhood would simply broke. And yes, I would feed them with blue pills only and all they would hear would be texts of their own spam.
    Not only they deserve death - their death should be very slow and painfull.
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    Anyone remember Usenet? There was saying there I'd see all the time: "Please don't feed the trolls".
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamisland View Post
    Like yourself, we're just making some money on the internet. Don't hate cause we do half the work you do and make twice as much.
    Because you're parasites. Parasites have to make a living but the hosts they feed on don't have to like it. Hosts would prefer them to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    Anyone remember Usenet? There was saying there I'd see all the time: "Please don't feed the trolls".

    I was just about to post that.

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    Spammers get Web hosts in trouble with upstream providers and may get us in trouble with the law. The reason you are hated should be self-evident.
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    Anyone remember Usenet? There was saying there I'd see all the time: "Please don't feed the trolls".
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