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    CPanel - what is the need?

    I'm currently on a shared hosting plan, and currently, my host continuously turns off user's of mine, citing too high of usage on their servers, banning their IPs. I'm looking for a good VPS, and am wondering what the need is for CPanel.
    I currently have CPanel on my shared webhost, but really only log into it once a month or so. Most of these VPS's offer CPanel, but at a $5 a month extra charge, or just don't offer it at all. Some are included, but they pass along this extra service as a fee. Can someone tell me the benefit of having CPanel compared to some basic admin panel? I will be needing to transfer my old site to the new VPS.

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    Most hosts offer cPanel because that's more or less the industry standard (along with a few other panels), and people are comfortable with it. Are you hosting other people on your account? If so, you'll probably need to offer cPanel. That's probably what they're used to. Just ask your users and see if they would be comfortable with a different one, but I really doubt it.
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    cPanel is to make things more convenient by easily allowing access to files. It also makes things easier such as adding domains, limiting users, creating more accounts, MYSQL databases, and other things. I would only recommend NOT using a control panel when your EXTREMELY familiar with SSH. If you find the cost of cPanel high and the amount of resources it uses too much I would recommend getting DirectAdmin. It's basically the same as cPanel but it's a lot cheaper and requires a lot less resources.
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    The "users" i was actually referring to are just the visitors on my website. My site isn't a reseller site, just a phpbb bulletin board with a 40K file photo gallery. I was planning on getting a VPS with at least 350 MB RAM, but I keep hearing about how intensive Cpanel can be. Is it using up lots of RAM even when I'm not currently in the program changing settings?

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    I'm running cpanel in a 256MB vps. No issues.

    cpanel can use a lot of memory during specific operations like updates, account creation etc., but it isn't sitting there sucking up tons of memory all the time. You may notice the panels taking it's time to update when you perform some operations.

    The cpanel daemon runs all the time but it isn't very active most of the time.

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    Go with LxAdmin. It barely uses your RAM and it's fast plus FREE!

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    The only issue if you decide to transfer your clients is it will be mean more work for you. I personally would just suggest that you continue to use cPanel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railroadfan View Post
    The "users" i was actually referring to are just the visitors on my website. My site isn't a reseller site, just a phpbb bulletin board with a 40K file photo gallery. I was planning on getting a VPS with at least 350 MB RAM, but I keep hearing about how intensive Cpanel can be. Is it using up lots of RAM even when I'm not currently in the program changing settings?
    How is your provider turning off visitors? If your site was eating up too many resources they would have suspeneded your account. Unless those users appeared to be attacking the server.

    If you are only hosting your own site and know how to back it up and restore it then you can use any control panel you like.

    If you want the host to migrate it for you then I would go cpanel to cpanel.

    Still I am curious how your current host would ban visitors stating that they are using too many resources as the logs would have shown your account or "nobody" using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrhodes View Post
    How is your provider turning off visitors? If your site was eating up too many resources they would have suspeneded your account. Unless those users appeared to be attacking the server.

    Still I am curious how your current host would ban visitors stating that they are using too many resources as the logs would have shown your account or "nobody" using them.
    I'm using lypha.com, using a shared hosting plan from them. They state that they are using BFE software that detects high usage from individual IP addresses, and blocks their address to the server that my site is on. Lypha has been blocking individual users, they change the permissions on folders within my site to read-only access, the site has lots of times that I've exceeded the maximum current SQL connections, etc.... horrible time with them, so I hope a VPS can handle my needs.

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    railroadfan, I would recommend you to use cPanel in your case. You can transfer all files from your old server to a VPS without any control panel installed, but you would need to configure, apache, FTP and other services you need manually and it takes a long time to do that. It would be much easier to install cPanel and transfer the account via WebHost Manager and you do not need to spend your time on configuration of the services on your server.

    You should also remember that if your processes (mysql, http, exim, etc.) exceed the resource limits of your VPS, they will be killed by the Virtuozzo kernel. When your processes used the guaranteed memory, then they try to use burst resources and if they uses burst resources too long, the system forces the processes to release it. If it does not, it will end the process by force.
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    The only reason you would need cPanel is if you are offering cPanel services to your clients, which you aren't.

    cPanel costs you in two ways, firstly is the obvious monthly charge for the license, and secondly is the extra cost of all the resources needed to run it. If you just want to run a single bulletin board you are probably fine with 256MB of memory or even less, but as soon as you want to use cPanel for anything you can expect some problems with anything less than 512MB.

    Since you are only using cPanel for some basic system administration you will have to decide for yourself if it is really worth the convenience. There are other control panels out there that are cheaper or free, and do not require as many resources. Of course you can also just do it manually via SSH if you feel up to it. However, it is worth noting that setting up Apache and PHP and PHPBB might take two hours, and you might need to upgrade them from time to time. Maybe an extra ~$25 a month for the license and extra resources is worth it if it saves you time.

    One final thought, everything you run on your system decreases its security. The less attack vectors into your system the better, so this is another good reason not to run a control panel if you don't really need it.

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    By running / using cPanel you don't need to do much/any setup work to get your VPS up and running, if you don't use a control panel, or you use webmin or VHCS you will need to configure everything yourself first, or pay a management company to do it for you. cPanel just works out as the easist option for most people
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    There are a few viable alternatives, notably LxAdmin (Free) and DirectAdmin ($5/month, less resource usage).

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