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    RE: Hosting Empire for Sale

    Due to a family emergency, my brother was in a really bad car accident, I have no choice to attempt to sale my webhosting company for $8,500, I am currently residing in Costa Rica, but originally from the US where my family resides.I know the price may be steep, however, from all the time put into this project, and the potential this can make I feel the price is worth it. And I really need to help my brother out

    The sale will be posted till Friday of this week and the interested party should post funds within 72 hours of sale.

    All further inquires can be directed to [email protected]

    The sale includes the following:


    Domains:

    dwscenter.com
    dwscenter.net
    mydws.com
    dwsdomains.com
    dwsdomains.net
    butterflycp.com
    dwsphone.com
    myhost5.com
    dynamic10.com
    shellprices.net
    shellprices.com
    velocedesigns.com


    SSL Certificates

    1 SSL Certificate on dwscenter.net

    Domain Registrars

    1 Full reseller ($7.45) enom account with 3 sub accounts that have already been sold off at reseller rates- and 1 active sub that generates $1.80 per registered domain, and currently has over 80 domains.

    Hosting Services

    1 VPS Account with smokeyhosts (WHMSONIC)
    used for Radio Hosting

    1 VPS with SolarVPS for shell accounts

    1 Reseller account with Innohosting (premium account)

    1 Dedicated server from Burst Net (with reseller account to resell servers etc)

    Software

    Fully branded WHMCS (WHMCS comes fre with innohosting account)
    Fully owned AWBS license (www.dwsdomains.com for view with template)
    ClientEXEC reseller account
    RVSKIN VPS annual subscription

    IPs

    One 256 block of IPs lifetime owned no monthly fees thru RIPE

    Clients

    Regarding of clients there are currently about 30 active clients, as I started this project a couple years now but really wanted to build it to offer everything so I started to advertise about 3 months ago, if the right person buys it it can be a true gold mine.

    Revenue

    Again, the revenue is low right now but can make a fortune to the right company that markets it

    Search Engines

    from searching of it , it is in all the search engines, and if you type dws center it will display as the first listing on google and ask.com

    I hope I didnt forget anything if I did please feel free to email me.

    Thanks for looking and hope to sale this soon, I didnt ever want to sale it but family comes first

    Thanks
    Tom
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    \you say you have 30 clients but haven't actually posted the income.
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    I do like the 'empire' thing. Good touch

    As thebyp2 says, could you give us figures on the income, monthly and yearly, and monthly costs for hosting services? And the technology that you do use for those VPS customers.

    Thanks

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    This is from WHMCS

    Income Summary

    Monthly: $698.26 (34)
    Quarterly: $0.00 (0)
    Semi-Annually: $119.85 (1)
    Annually: $1299.30 (5)
    Biennially: $0.00 (0)
    Est. Annual Income: $9918.12
    (Excluding Domains)

    ť Statistics
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    and your costs?
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    Do you have screenshots of these to prove client statistics?
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  7. #7
    You said you have 30 clients, however, from WHMCS there are 40 clients.
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    how long have the clients been with you?

    Can you list what the plan types are also. It seems that you are averaging around 20.00 per client.
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    You have exceeded your stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until you clear some space.


    Could you send me as many detailed informations as possible (stats screenshots, payment proofs, client breakdown and so on...) to pierre [AT] webdomain.com.
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  10. #10
    I'm very interested. I have all the same questions that have been posted. Please send me those details.
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    WHMCS

    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian2000 View Post
    You said you have 30 clients, however, from WHMCS there are 40 clients.
    Yes but there are like 5 accounts that are house accounts that are not monthly fees and will be deleted after the sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebyp2 View Post
    and your costs?
    BurstNet:

    Dedicated Server: Dual Xeon 2.8GHZ 200TB BW 100MP connection, 4GB RAM 1x250GB HD 1 500GB HD ($149/mo)

    Innohosting- Shared Reseller Account with WHMCS - 39/mo

    VPS - SmokeyHost - $45 a month as there is 640MB RAM Cpanel/RVSKIN/Fantastico

    SolarVPS - for shell accounts - $24/mo

    HyperVM - $15 mo 30 client licenses / HyperVM/LXAdmin (.50 per license)
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    Email Sent :)

    Quote Originally Posted by WebDomain.com View Post
    You have exceeded your stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until you clear some space.


    Could you send me as many detailed informations as possible (stats screenshots, payment proofs, client breakdown and so on...) to pierre [AT] webdomain.com.

    Sent please let me know if you need anything else

    Thanks
    Tom
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    Clients

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedShark View Post
    how long have the clients been with you?

    Can you list what the plan types are also. It seems that you are averaging around 20.00 per client.
    As I mentioned earlier the client based is only about 2-3 months old as I was building everything up to be able to offer all services under one roof, one thing I forget to add here is www.hits-expert.com which is a hits site, that is also included in the sale.

    90% of the clients are on VPS accounts, I have 1-2 on shell accounts, and about 5 on hosting accounts.

    Thanks
    Tom
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    screenshots

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwscenter View Post
    Yes but there are like 5 accounts that are house accounts that are not monthly fees and will be deleted after the sale
    When then that makes my point even more important. WHMCS has 40 accounts listed as PAYING accounts. Either you meant 40 clients, or, WHMCS is listing paying accounts that have since been canceled.
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    I think its cause they are listed as $0.0 per month I really never counted the clients I can go and count them if you like but I do know for domain purposes I had to create a plan called House Accounts and the monthly fee is $0.00 so thats why I think WHMCS is counting them in the total number but adding the $0.0 to the montlhy figure
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  19. #19
    this sale is still available for those that are interested in it.

    Thanks
    Tom
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    What is your actual revenue from the past year? The last 12 months revenue please.

    The price should depend on that, instead of what you are likely to earn if the current month's income sustains for a year.
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  21. #21
    James

    Yes in most cases that is the general rule of thumb, however in my case I only went public about 2.5 months ago. Also, there are alot of things to consider here, the enom account, the lifetime ips, the different hosting software, multiple sites in one, etc.

    Thats how Im looking at it and hope others see the potential the way I do, and to be honest, I would have never put it up for sale if it wasnt due to the fact that I have to go back to the states for a period of time to help my brother and his family out.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Lee View Post
    What is your actual revenue from the past year? The last 12 months revenue please.

    The price should depend on that, instead of what you are likely to earn if the current month's income sustains for a year.
    his clients are only 2-3 months old so there is not revenue for the last 12 months.
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  23. #23
    Ok, being I do really need to sale this to get back to the states, as Im being honest I dont have the funds to do so otherwise, Im going to initiate a close bid auction on this. If you are interested in purchasing everything that is included in the original post , and one other thing that I did forget to purchase is www.hits-expert.com will also be included in this sale, as well as a reseller account for hyperspin which I also forgot to include.

    The support chat that is on the page is free download from chatstat.com

    I will start the close bids at minimum bid of $6500 and should be emailed to [email protected] All closed bids will be honored at time of receipt of the email. If you like you can send the closed bid amount and post here, bid sent as a backup.

    All bids will be accepted till Saturday 6P EST

    If you wish to buy it out the buy it out price remains at $8500 and if you wish to use the buy it out then just mark this thread as sold.

    Thank you all for looking and if you have any questions please feel free to email them to [email protected]

    Thanks again
    Tom
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  24. #24
    How do you get the 256 IPs from RIPE absolutely free for life?

    There's a membership fee associated with membership to RIPE:

    http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/procedure.html
    ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    How do you get the 256 IPs from RIPE absolutely free for life?

    There's a membership fee associated with membership to RIPE:

    http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/procedure.html
    Good question i was wondering the same thing.
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  26. #26
    The ips are bought out and paid for by me as a one time fee, and bought thru God Host IP

    There are no montly fees , the only fee you would have to pay is if you switch the backbone provider that routes the ips which is around $60 right now they are being routed by BurstNet

    I had these IPs for about 3 months now, and didnt pay other then the $225 original fee

    The ips are 89.33.8.0-255 if you want to verify this

    I am very honest and am not trying to hide anything so if anyone wants to know anything please feel free to ask I will be 100% upfront with you

    Thanks
    Tom
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    are you sure this is not 225 per year? So these IP's can be routed to what ever data center you want or multiple dc's? Is that correct?
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    When I bought them about 3 months ago from Paul, from God Host, he clearly stated to me that the IPs do not have to be justified , and that its a one time fee for the IPs the only additional fees that will occur is when you move the IPs to a new data center, and they can be used at any datacenter if the data center is willing to route the IPs. Thats the only fees for the IPs
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    As I mentioned before I am a very honest person, so I just want this out in the open, the IPs will show that they resolve back to Romania, they are NOT US based IPs even if they are on a US backbone server the IPs will resolve to Romania, but the actual ip will resolve to the backbone provider, I understand that this is common information but I just wanted to make the point clear

    Thanks again
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    I've not heard of God host. So if i understand this, your really more selling the various set-ups, rather than the clients specifically?
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    Im selling everything, clients that are currently on board, all the domains listed above, the IPs which belong to me and routed thru BurstNet everything
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    I even googled for God host and I cannot find anything on it. I am not sure the clients are worth 8-10 months since they are all only 2-3 months old.
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    www.godshost.com is the site of them

    Yes I understand your concerns and is why I tried to be very clear of the clients being so new, but with all the other aspects, such as variety of domains, the domain dwscenter in the search engine does show up as the top link if you search for dws center, and the enom account, software, ips, etc its a jump and go hosting, as well as the current template and a few others.

    As I mentioned before I personally would have not been selling it if it wasnt due to my brother, I planned on building it strong and it was leading to that direction.

    but, at times the unknown pops up and makes things go a different direction.

    Thanks
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    Do you have any contracts with these customers?
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  35. #35
    No contracts, they are simple clients that signed up
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  36. #36
    Ok being Im not getting any closed bids on this can I ask for your professional feedback on might this whole thing be worth?

    Thanks
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    a basic rule of dumb is Monthly revenue*6 or Monthly profits*12.

    A better rule is EBIDTA/0,0425 which is the value of a company nowadays in US. (EBIDTA stands for earnings before interest, depreciation, taxes and amortizations)

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    I think the most valuable item is the IP's, if they are as you say they are.

    The rest is only what somebody sees as valuable. The domains have no intrinsic value, and the brand is so intertwined with various companies that you have no specific items of value.

    The software is probably worth what you paid for it, but as far as i can see the only one you actually own is the AWBS licence.

    From my perspective i would regard it as a going concern rather than a legitimate profit making company.
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  39. #39
    Thank you both for your honest opinions , but being my customer base is so new cant really base it off that.

    And thebyp2, if you dont mind can you state some sort of a dollar value that it might be worth using your perspectives?

    Cause I have over 6k invested over long term on all of this with the purchase of different domains, template, service providers, etc etc

    Thanks again for the replies
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    when you say you have $6k (assuming dollars) invested i assume you mean in setup costs?

    I am quite happy to appraise it all for you if you give me access, and then post the result here for all to see.

    If you just want an arbitrary value, then i would guess, based on your previous posts maybe $1k. I'd quantify that with the fact that you have been trading a very short period, and by the looks of things you have accounts all over the place which would require quite a lot of unpicking before the value (if any) could be realised.
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