Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 40 of 46
  1. #1

    What are the most link exchanges you should do in a day?

    Some people have told me that if you build up your reciprocal links too quickly, that may hurt you more than help you. What's the most link trades you should do in a day?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by gregdavidson View Post
    Some people have told me that if you build up your reciprocal links too quickly, that may hurt you more than help you. What's the most link trades you should do in a day?
    Yes those people are right.

    Coz if you do that SE will assume that your trying to spam your site.

    Do one thing decide specific amount of link for reciprocal or one way link for each day.So your site will get constant backlinks and also will help to get higher ranking in SE.
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Thomas, Kentucky
    Posts
    269
    Greg I don think that is really the case at all. You cant control how fast you get links sometimes.

    Lets say you write a blog post that gets picked up fairly quickly in the blogsphere. You think Google is going to penalize the post or the blog for that, hardly.
    Jaan Kanellis | iNET Interactive

  4. #4
    Exactly as incredible is saying.. If this really were true, you could easily take a competitor out of the rankings simply buy paying an Indian company $100 to run up a quick 3000 links..

    It also runs contrary to the entire philosophy of link bait, which google recommends..
    Steve
    Metal Monster Marketing : Internet Marketing

  5. #5
    The worst that can happen is that google will ignore those links. Google will not penalize for getting lots of links quickly.

    If, google penalize for getting links quickly, then people will start to get lots of links for their competitors in order to get them penalized.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    SEO cyberspace
    Posts
    423
    Quote Originally Posted by gregdavidson View Post
    Some people have told me that if you build up your reciprocal links too quickly, that may hurt you more than help you. What's the most link trades you should do in a day?

    If by link trades you mean reciprocal links the answer is zero - you should give up on reciprocal links as its a waste of time.
    I plan to live forever - so far so good
    Expert SEO |Sash Windows London

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    O HI O
    Posts
    294
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    If by link trades you mean reciprocal links the answer is zero - you should give up on reciprocal links as its a waste of time.
    I couldn't agree with this more. Never saw why people choose to trade links to a site that for the most part is in the same category as your own. That would be like Ford sending people over to a Chevy dealership to have a look around.
    How many web hosts does it take to screw in a light bulb?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Oztrayla Mate!
    Posts
    572
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    If by link trades you mean reciprocal links the answer is zero - you should give up on reciprocal links as its a waste of time.
    Well here's something i couldn't agree more on.
    Great Host = WiredTree.com Managed VPS Hosting

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Posts
    57
    as many as you like.. Google will not penalties for your links
    <<Please see rules for signature setup>>

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Reciprocal Links are one of the best cost effecting way to get links and traffic to your website which is comes under the "SEM" as well, although it has been de-valued by search engines however it plays an important role in your websites link popularity.

    Apparently, there are more disadvantages of having reciprocal links, it can give away your page rank if you a website with less PR and less trust with google is linked by you or if a website irrelavant to your niche is linked by you, this could lead to a loss in your website PR.

    So, if you are not really a PR maniac, go for it
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    SEO cyberspace
    Posts
    423
    Sorry Zafar but Google at least does not count reciprocal links in its ranking scheme so its just a waste of time.
    I plan to live forever - so far so good
    Expert SEO |Sash Windows London

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Phuket, Thailand
    Posts
    29
    too fast, too many ... then the question is what is too much or too fast?

    are you talking about 10-20 a day or 2000 in a few hours?
    big difference !

    I find it hard to believe that reciprocal links have lost all of their value, but certainly most of it, limit it to 20-30 really top-links, as in; real value for your visitors, but that's it, don't do hundreds of link exchanges with all kind of crappy sites, related or not, that's not working anymore !

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    269
    Link exchanging should be implemented naturally. When the site you want to link to or the one that wants to link to you has relevant content that complements your database then it is alright. In the events when you post to gazillion directories just to build a huge amount of backlinks you will more then likely going to be slapped, figuratively speaking, by the almighty G I guess.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Sorry Zafar but Google at least does not count reciprocal links in its ranking scheme so its just a waste of time.
    Are you kidding me? Do you think relevant link exchange won't even count?

    I did few link exchange for a keyword "seo guru" - i paid for none, I acheived first page in 4 days. Since paid links are banned by google, there are two ways of link trading, one is reciprocal or naturally.

    Thank you.
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Or you can use "dots"
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Sorry Zafar but Google at least does not count reciprocal links in its ranking scheme so its just a waste of time.
    I think you need to have some brush up for your skills
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Thomas, Kentucky
    Posts
    269
    Quote Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed View Post
    Are you kidding me? Do you think relevant link exchange won't even count?

    I did few link exchange for a keyword "seo guru" - i paid for none, I acheived first page in 4 days. Since paid links are banned by google, there are two ways of link trading, one is reciprocal or naturally.

    Thank you.
    Page 2 here for "seo guru". You might want to search with your google account turned off.
    Jaan Kanellis | iNET Interactive

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Oztrayla Mate!
    Posts
    572
    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblehelp View Post
    Page 2 here for "seo guru". You might want to search with your google account turned off.
    I have him first page on Google.com, #7 to be exact.. However in all honesty SEO Guru is not competitive what so ever. An allintitle:"seo guru" pulls up just 1,680 results showing nobody is bothering to target it because it brings in no traffic.

    Any site with moderate strength could do a subpage with "SEO Guru" as the title, mention it 2 or 3 times on the page and wind up on first page with no external backlinks.. just internal.
    Great Host = WiredTree.com Managed VPS Hosting

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Thomas, Kentucky
    Posts
    269
    Very true boss. By the way what domain are you ranking "SEO" in the top of Google for?
    Jaan Kanellis | iNET Interactive

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    SEO cyberspace
    Posts
    423
    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal View Post
    I think you need to have some brush up for your skills
    Think away Vishal, but it might pay you do some research on the subject, say starting with Matt Cutts blog and Google webmaster central.

    It could save you a lot of wasted effort.
    I plan to live forever - so far so good
    Expert SEO |Sash Windows London

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    184
    I am not doing any link exchanges for the past couple of months. If I would, it would be for the benefit of my visitors and not for SEO reasons.

    Just an advice: keep them minimal as possible.
    OneIMS.com - Internet Marketing and SEO

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Think away Vishal, but it might pay you do some research on the subject, say starting with Matt Cutts blog and Google webmaster central.

    It could save you a lot of wasted effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel
    Sorry Zafar but Google at least does not count reciprocal links in its ranking scheme so its just a waste of time.
    Your saying that Reciprocal links does not count in Ranking system
    [Yawn]

    For your reference

    "Reciprocal links can gain or lose PageRank. You need to take care when choosing where to exchange links."


    Reciprocal Links counts in PageRank system. If you reciprocal your link with HIGH PR site then this will help you to get HighPage Rank.

    This Link will help you to Understand the PageRank System

    http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal View Post
    Your saying that Reciprocal links does not count in Ranking system
    [Yawn]

    For your reference

    "Reciprocal links can gain or lose PageRank. You need to take care when choosing where to exchange links."


    Reciprocal Links counts in PageRank system. If you reciprocal your link with HIGH PR site then this will help you to get HighPage Rank.

    This Link will help you to Understand the PageRank System

    http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html
    Exactly what I was trying to prove to MR.SEO Expert.

    Also, being on top for "SEO Guru" does not means I'm on top on every datacenter, have you guys ever heard of Google Dance?

    I just wrote an article about the different SERP's result, you might want to read it:

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=683057
    Last edited by Zafar Ahmed; 04-01-2008 at 09:29 AM.
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    SEO cyberspace
    Posts
    423
    LOL Vishal thanks for the link! I am site admin on that forum, but unless and until you read the places I suggested you will always be in the dark.

    Just to start the ball rolling:

    The article you linked to was written in April of 2000, there has been a lot of water under the bridge since then. PageRank still works mostly like it did way back then but it only operates on those links which Google allows it to operate on.

    If Google says that it is discounting recirocal links then they don't get included in the PageRank calcs.
    I plan to live forever - so far so good
    Expert SEO |Sash Windows London

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Just to start the ball rolling:

    PageRank still works mostly like it did way back then but it only operates on those links which Google allows it to operate on.
    .
    what exactly does that means?

    Thanks
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    LOL Vishal thanks for the link! I am site admin on that forum, but unless and until you read the places I suggested you will always be in the dark.

    The article you linked to was written in April of 2000, there has been a lot of water under the bridge since then. PageRank still works mostly like it did way back then but it only operates on those links which Google allows it to operate on.

    If Google says that it is discounting recirocal links then they don't get included in the PageRank calcs.

    Well I'll prefer dark side

    Btw

    I dont see any forum on that site. And dont you think being SEO Experts(Site Admin) now its too late to update your site since April 2000 ?
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post

    If Google says that it is discounting recirocal links then they don't get included in the PageRank calcs.
    LOL You are not confident abt your statement.


    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    PageRank still works mostly like it did way back then but it only operates on those links which Google allows it to operate on.
    Google dont allows anything. Assigning PR and Top Ranking for site its totally Automated process.
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal View Post

    Google dont allows anything. Assigning PR and Top Ranking for site its totally Automated process.
    Correct. Google counts quality links linking to your website and assign PR accordingly, also - quality and unique content.
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed View Post
    , have you guys ever heard of Google Dance?
    There has not been a google dance since before your post stating "what does an SEO do?"
    AHFBWEB Less customers per server, more power for you!

    Business Class Shared Hosting

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Pakistan
    Posts
    2,752
    Quote Originally Posted by AHFB HTML View Post
    There has not been a google dance since before your post stating "what does an SEO do?"
    You have been warned to stop bashing threads by the moderator here, please stop it. Otherwise, you can get a ban for it.
    I'm Zafar Ahmed.
    I provide
    SEO Services & eMarketing consultancy
    I'll be glad to hear from you

  31. #31
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Thomas, Kentucky
    Posts
    269
    Quote Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed View Post
    have you guys ever heard of Google Dance?
    WOW, nuff said.

    Google does not dance anymore. Rather it is a ever flux of changing position dealing with localization, personalization and using different datacenters.

    In the past when Google "danced" it was the process of them rolling out algorithm changes to the public.

    Zafar it seems you knowledge is very dated as far as it is concerned with SEO. Here is a post that may help you catch up on some things.
    Jaan Kanellis | iNET Interactive

  32. #32
    Your threats do not change the fact that
    There has not been a google dance since before your post stating "what does an SEO do?"
    AHFBWEB Less customers per server, more power for you!

    Business Class Shared Hosting

  33. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblehelp View Post
    WOW, nuff said.

    Google does not dance anymore. Rather it is a ever flux of changing position dealing with localization, personalization and using different datacenters.

    In the past when Google "danced" it was the process of them rolling out algorithm changes to the public.

    Zafar it seems you knowledge is very dated as far as it is concerned with SEO. Here is a post that may help you catch up on some things.

    Good to see there are some that prefer to give good information. I would expect no less knowing you have worked with Yahoo.co.uk as well as WHTs very own hotscripts.
    AHFBWEB Less customers per server, more power for you!

    Business Class Shared Hosting

  34. #34
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Thomas, Kentucky
    Posts
    269
    Thanks AHFB HTML. Zafar I dont think anyone is attacking you. We are just making sure no bad advice happens here.
    Jaan Kanellis | iNET Interactive

  35. #35
    Link exchange is somewhat risky

  36. #36
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    SEO cyberspace
    Posts
    423
    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal View Post
    LOL You are not confident abt your statement.




    Google dont allows anything. Assigning PR and Top Ranking for site its totally Automated process.
    Right Vishnal, unless you have a pipeline into Googles engineering offices you can't be 100% sure of anything Google does. If you have such a pipeline please share it with us all unless of course you are just trying to be disagreeable.

    Interesting that you seem to think that the Google Algo is cast in concrete and cannot be changed as the people at Google desire. The Google algo can and does change quite often.
    I plan to live forever - so far so good
    Expert SEO |Sash Windows London

  37. #37
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Right Vishnal, unless you have a pipeline into Googles engineering offices you can't be 100% sure of anything Google does. If you have such a pipeline please share it with us all unless of course you are just trying to be disagreeable.
    No Offense

    I am not trying to be disagreeable. But Fact is Fact and you dont want to understand it

    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Interesting that you seem to think that the Google Algo is cast in concrete and cannot be changed as the people at Google desire. The Google algo can and does change quite often.

    I dont said this, I know that google changes his algo quite often.

    I just said that assigning PR to site and Top ranking is totally Automated process.
    Vishal

    Indian Social Bookmarking tweetr.in

  38. #38
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Oztrayla Mate!
    Posts
    572
    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblehelp View Post
    Very true boss. By the way what domain are you ranking "SEO" in the top of Google for?
    I sent you a PM with my URL, #4 is the highest up the top 10 i've managed for "SEO" which is not bad i guess.. I just had SeoChat.com and 2 Wiki URL's above me.

    I'll need a few link exchanges to knock them out.
    Great Host = WiredTree.com Managed VPS Hosting

  39. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolfz View Post
    Link exchange is somewhat risky
    No, it isn't.. It may not be very useful, but unless you are linking to bad neighborhoods (which you shouldn't do anyway) recip linking is not a "risky" venture..
    Steve
    Metal Monster Marketing : Internet Marketing

  40. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed View Post
    I did few link exchange for a keyword "seo guru" - i paid for none, I acheived first page in 4 days.
    And a couple days later you were back on page 6 for that term, where you still remain today. I would have thought that would kind of suggest that google first recognized the link from the recip partners,and ranked based on that, until they later saw the return links on your site and devalued them, causing your site to drop back where it should be. I would have expected an "SEO Guru" to think of something that fundamentally simple.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •