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    Which datacenter have good speeds to Asia especially to China?

    i need a United States or Europe Unmetered 100mbps server,which datacenter have good speeds to Asia especially China? thanks for any reply!

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    When you mean unmetered, do you mean a dedicated 100mbit line? Or just a server, that has a port speed of 100mbit and is unmetered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diligent View Post
    When you mean unmetered, do you mean a dedicated 100mbit line? Or just a server, that has a port speed of 100mbit and is unmetered?
    dedicated 100mbit line and shared 100mbit line both is ok, this server manthly transfer data is about 3000 - 5000 GB, The key is the speeds to china , i found fdcservers.net and 3rdrockhosting.com ,which one is better? or some else
    Options? ,thanks !

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    What is your budget?

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    What is your budget?
    <BR>below $300 ,&nbsp;&nbsp; harddisk 500GB or 500GB + , thanks !</P>
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    3000 - 5000GB transfer/month, you will need an unmeterred 20mbps line or a shared 100mbps line. I havent' heard about 3rdrockhosting, but for FDC, they are in the central, you can be better with a west coast vendor. Especially for Asia customers, take a look at vendors who has Mzima, NTT or PCCW in their mix

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    I've tested Ecatel and FDCServers from Hong Kong on a VDSL 10mbit line. When my port is nearly idle or at 80% capacity it didn't really make much of a difference in speed.

    From experience USA is faster to China than Europe. The pings from Europe are 350ms while from USA are around 220ms.

    Though I asked Ecatel (Netherlands) to improve the routing to Hong Kong and it seems to have improved from 25kbps to 300kbps.

    But for awesome speeds to Hong Kong, nothing beats HostGator, can get 800kbps, though not unmetered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigaron View Post
    I've tested Ecatel and FDCServers from Hong Kong on a VDSL 10mbit line. When my port is nearly idle or at 80% capacity it didn't really make much of a difference in speed.

    From experience USA is faster to China than Europe. The pings from Europe are 350ms while from USA are around 220ms.

    Though I asked Ecatel (Netherlands) to improve the routing to Hong Kong and it seems to have improved from 25kbps to 300kbps.

    But for awesome speeds to Hong Kong, nothing beats HostGator, can get 800kbps, though not unmetered.
    thanks for share your experience,i think i will choose a USA server ,now i have left fdcserver.net and hivelocity.net to choose,wihch one have good speeds to China? thanks again!

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    Theplanet have stable connection to Asian countries.
    Their standard bandwidth offer is good too (2500 GB)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wjstar View Post
    thanks for share your experience,i think i will choose a USA server ,now i have left fdcserver.net and hivelocity.net to choose,wihch one have good speeds to China? thanks again!
    I have no experience with hivelocity.net, though I left fdcservers.net for the following reasons:

    - Server struggled to push 8TB while my Ecatel.net server can push 15TB without problems :-)
    - For some strange unknown reason the entire FDCSERVERS network just seems to be unreachable from time to time
    - Bang for buck, rapidswitch is much better. For $70 or so USD, you get 10TB which is more than what FDCservers can give and the speeds are pretty good but expect similar quality to Ecatel to China.

    A friend took this stats for me from Hong Kong:

    Ecatel's site:

    6 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 0.so-2-3-0.XT1.HKG2.Alter.Net [210.80.2.225]
    7 162 ms 159 ms 161 ms 0.so-4-1-0.IR1.LAX12.ALTER.NET [210.80.49.253]
    8 189 ms 160 ms 162 ms 0.so-5-0-0.IL1.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.65]
    9 168 ms 165 ms 163 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XT1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.249]
    10 163 ms 164 ms 162 ms 0.so-6-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.41]
    11 161 ms 161 ms 163 ms 204.255.168.10
    12 163 ms 161 ms 163 ms ae-0.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.3
    4]
    13 228 ms 228 ms 233 ms p64-3-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
    0.2.75]
    14 244 ms 231 ms 228 ms as-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.8
    ]
    15 239 ms 238 ms 240 ms ae-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.2
    5]
    16 296 ms 296 ms 296 ms as-1.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.2
    55]
    17 315 ms 312 ms 313 ms xe-4-4.r01.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2
    .66]
    18 298 ms 298 ms 298 ms 2ge-2-x-d.claire.the.as33970.net [83.231.146.234
    ]
    19 315 ms 314 ms 317 ms no-rdns-yet.ohtele.com [89.238.140.22]
    20 306 ms 307 ms 311 ms thn-tc2.10g.nl.as33970.net [89.238.140.26]
    21 323 ms 323 ms 323 ms iqarus.redbus2f.nl-ix.net [193.239.116.106]
    22 301 ms 303 ms 301 ms 89.248.160.2
    My server on Ecatel:

    5 4 ms 3 ms 7 ms 602.ge-0-3-0.GW7.HKG2.ALTER.NET [203.193.74.105]

    6 4 ms 5 ms 5 ms 0.so-3-2-0.XT1.HKG2.ALTER.NET [210.80.3.41]
    7 181 ms 183 ms 181 ms 0.so-4-0-1.IR1.SAC2.ALTER.NET [210.80.49.9]
    8 161 ms 157 ms 158 ms 0.so-2-0-0.IL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.33]
    9 201 ms 176 ms 173 ms 0.so-5-1-0.XT1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.56.150]
    10 183 ms 173 ms 174 ms 0.so-6-0-0.BR1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.57.49]
    11 174 ms 173 ms 173 ms if-3-1.core3.SQN-SanJose.teleglobe.net [66.198.9
    7.25]
    12 175 ms 173 ms 180 ms if-9-0-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.teleglobe.net [216.
    6.33.6]
    13 162 ms 161 ms 164 ms if-3-0.mcore3.PDI-PaloAlto.teleglobe.net [216.6.
    29.65]
    14 198 ms 219 ms 198 ms 216.6.29.26
    15 217 ms 217 ms 222 ms if-1-0-0.core1.CT8-Chicago.teleglobe.net [66.110
    .27.5]
    16 220 ms 221 ms 218 ms if-1-0.core2.CT8-Chicago.teleglobe.net [66.110.1
    4.177]
    17 240 ms 278 ms 311 ms if-0-1-0.core2.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net [66.110
    .14.22]
    18 248 ms 249 ms 248 ms if-5-0.core1.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.82
    .65]
    19 311 ms 314 ms 318 ms if-7-0-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [216.
    6.82.70]
    20 323 ms 311 ms 314 ms if-0-0.core1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231
    .80.13]
    21 327 ms 323 ms 323 ms if-10-0.mcore3.LDN-London.teleglobe.net [80.231.
    80.30]
    22 325 ms 432 ms 402 ms 195.219.195.74
    23 322 ms 318 ms 319 ms thn-tc2.10g.nl.as33970.net [89.238.140.26]
    24 340 ms 343 ms 338 ms iqarus.redbus2f.nl-ix.net [193.239.116.106]
    25 318 ms 317 ms 317 ms 10g-8-1.ar1.ams1.nl.ecatel.net [89.248.175.7]
    26 333 ms 322 ms 434 ms 89.XXX.XXX.XXX
    FDCservers.net

    5 11 ms 6 ms 3 ms 602.ge-0-3-0.GW7.HKG2.ALTER.NET [203.193.74.105]

    6 4 ms 4 ms 13 ms 0.so-3-2-0.XT2.HKG2.ALTER.NET [210.80.3.49]
    7 160 ms 159 ms 160 ms 0.so-6-0-0.IR2.LAX12.Alter.Net [210.80.49.86]
    8 160 ms 160 ms 159 ms 0.so-5-0-0.IL2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.69]
    9 * 163 ms * 0.so-6-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.69]
    10 164 ms 163 ms 161 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.153]
    11 162 ms 163 ms 165 ms 204.255.168.10
    12 163 ms 161 ms 167 ms ae-0.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.3
    4]
    13 207 ms 207 ms 210 ms as-0.r21.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.1
    22]
    14 208 ms 206 ms 211 ms ae-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.2
    4]
    15 203 ms 203 ms 208 ms as-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.1
    29]
    16 209 ms 208 ms 204 ms ae-0.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.5
    9]
    17 222 ms 222 ms 217 ms p64-1-1-0.r21.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
    0.2.23]
    18 322 ms 241 ms 222 ms xe-3-3.r00.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3
    .222]
    19 233 ms 232 ms 235 ms 66.90.127.209 [66.90.127.209]
    20 233 ms 236 ms 230 ms 66.90.127.130 [66.90.127.130]
    21 222 ms 216 ms * mail.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135]
    22 * 220 ms * mail.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135]
    23 * 216 ms 216 ms mail.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135]

    Hivelocity.net

    5 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 602.ge-0-3-0.GW7.HKG2.ALTER.NET [203.193.74.105]

    6 6 ms 5 ms 4 ms 0.so-3-2-0.XT2.HKG2.ALTER.NET [210.80.3.49]
    7 160 ms 161 ms 159 ms 0.so-6-0-0.IR2.LAX12.Alter.Net [210.80.49.86]
    8 163 ms 162 ms 162 ms 0.so-5-0-0.IL2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.69]
    9 169 ms 186 ms 166 ms 0.so-6-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.69]
    10 203 ms 167 ms 166 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.153]
    11 162 ms 165 ms 163 ms po5-0.core01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12
    .245]
    12 163 ms 164 ms 161 ms te3-3.mpd01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.2
    1]
    13 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms vl3490.ccr02.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.
    189]
    14 199 ms 207 ms 198 ms te2-4.ccr02.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.23
    7]
    15 203 ms 202 ms 202 ms gi0-0-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.
    2.201]
    16 227 ms 234 ms 226 ms po6-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.
    90]
    17 224 ms 224 ms 227 ms highvelocity-venture.corp.demarc.cogentco.com [3
    8.112.240.50]
    18 226 ms 229 ms 230 ms 69.46.31.70
    19 221 ms 221 ms 225 ms hivelocity.net [69.46.24.178]
    Rapidswitch.com

    5 49 ms 36 ms 4 ms 602.ge-0-3-0.GW7.HKG2.ALTER.NET [203.193.74.105]

    6 4 ms 6 ms 7 ms 0.so-2-3-0.XT2.HKG2.ALTER.NET [210.80.2.229]
    7 181 ms 186 ms 186 ms 0.so-6-0-0.IR2.SAC2.Alter.Net [210.80.49.78]
    8 176 ms 179 ms 176 ms 0.so-2-0-0.IL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.41]
    9 179 ms 178 ms 177 ms 152.63.1.69
    10 167 ms 168 ms 170 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.57.101]
    11 182 ms 185 ms 179 ms if-3-1.core3.SQN-SanJose.teleglobe.net [66.198.9
    7.25]
    12 180 ms 181 ms 181 ms if-9-0-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.teleglobe.net [216.
    6.33.6]
    13 168 ms 167 ms 167 ms if-3-0.mcore3.PDI-PaloAlto.teleglobe.net [216.6.
    29.65]
    14 203 ms 205 ms 203 ms 216.6.29.26
    15 225 ms 229 ms 241 ms if-1-0-0.core1.CT8-Chicago.teleglobe.net [66.110
    .27.5]
    16 226 ms 224 ms 223 ms if-1-0.core2.CT8-Chicago.teleglobe.net [66.110.1
    4.177]
    17 236 ms 233 ms 233 ms if-0-1-0.core2.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net [66.110
    .14.22]
    18 257 ms 262 ms 255 ms if-5-0.core1.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.82
    .65]
    19 318 ms 318 ms 321 ms if-7-0-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [216.
    6.82.70]
    20 318 ms 320 ms 317 ms if-0-0.core1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231
    .80.13]
    21 318 ms 320 ms 318 ms 195.219.195.33
    22 316 ms 323 ms 326 ms if-9-0-0-0.vpn1.Frankfurt2.teleglobe.net [195.21
    9.83.1]
    23 325 ms 323 ms 323 ms 195.219.83.6
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 313 ms 313 ms 315 ms 87.117.237.72
    Hostgator

    5 11 ms 9 ms 3 ms 602.ge-0-3-0.GW7.HKG2.ALTER.NET [203.193.74.105]

    6 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms 0.so-3-2-0.XT2.HKG2.ALTER.NET [210.80.3.49]
    7 159 ms 160 ms 160 ms 0.so-4-3-0.IR2.SAC2.ALTER.NET [210.80.49.13]
    8 167 ms 170 ms 168 ms 0.so-2-0-0.IL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.41]
    9 171 ms 172 ms 173 ms 152.63.1.69
    10 163 ms 164 ms 164 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.57.101]
    11 184 ms 208 ms 183 ms cpr2-pos-9-0.sanjoseequinix.savvis.net [208.175.
    72.169]
    12 176 ms 172 ms 177 ms cr1-loopback.sfo.savvis.net [206.24.210.70]
    13 205 ms 204 ms 205 ms cr1-tengig0-7-5-0.Dallas.savvis.net [204.70.200.
    70]
    14 213 ms 205 ms 210 ms 208.172.139.130
    15 213 ms 207 ms 204 ms te7-1.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.2]

    16 328 ms 230 ms 215 ms 7e.fd.5746.static.theplanet.com [70.87.253.126]

    17 205 ms 202 ms 202 ms vl2.asr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.58]
    18 230 ms 203 ms 203 ms gi0-2.car16.dllstx2.theplanet.com [69.41.250.78]

    19 204 ms 205 ms 204 ms gator.hostgator.com [67.18.54.2]

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    thanks a lot,Gigaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wjstar View Post
    thanks for share your experience,i think i will choose a USA server ,now i have left fdcserver.net and hivelocity.net to choose,wihch one have good speeds to China? thanks again!
    I can only tell you the speed to Hong Kong and China is a totally different story. China is too big and the network is still bad. There is no best answer, the only thing you can do is try out by yourself.

    I really don't know how these value bandwidth providers like fdc or ecatel perform in China. If you or your customer's requirement isn't high, they may still satisfy you but even though you have money go for SoftLayer and ThePlanet, there are still quite a lot of users in China who reported with bad speed and each of theirs data centre may resulted speed very differently to specific region in China.

    I will suggest you try out Ecatel/FDC/Hiv(Hiv got a try out promotion) now. If they can't satisfy you, the best beat is head to ThePlanet w/ 3000GB server and with the double bandwidth promotion.
    Last edited by HKPlane; 03-17-2008 at 09:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigaron View Post
    Though I asked Ecatel (Netherlands) to improve the routing to Hong Kong and it seems to have improved from 25kbps to 300kbps.
    No wonder the last time I was on your server slow like hell.....I was getting like 25kbps

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPlane View Post
    No wonder the last time I was on your server slow like hell.....I was getting like 25kbps
    Should be better now I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPlane View Post
    I can only tell you the speed to Hong Kong and China is a totally different story. China is too big and the network is still bad. There is no best answer, the only thing you can do is try out by yourself.

    I really don't know how these value bandwidth providers like fdc or ecatel perform in China. If you or your customer's requirement isn't high, they may still satisfy you but even though you have money go for SoftLayer and ThePlanet, there are still quite a lot of users in China who reported with bad speed and each of theirs data centre may resulted speed very differently to specific region in China.

    I will suggest you try out Ecatel/FDC/Hiv(Hiv got a try out promotion) now. If they can't satisfy you, the best beat is head to ThePlanet w/ 3000GB server and with the double bandwidth promotion.
    first thanks,i am have 2 theplanet servers online, and bought them with double BW promontion ,but part of my web visitors still feel slowly, so i want buy another datacenter' server to cover this problem, you are turly right ,china's network still not good,and different area'people have different speeds,it really troubled me,sigh ..

    i think this problem have no anwser but with my lucky ,though i am test a lot,maybe the reslut still the same
    Last edited by Wjstar; 03-17-2008 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wjstar View Post
    first thanks,i am have 2 theplanet servers online, and bought them with double BW promontion ,but part of my web visitors still feel slowly, so i want buy another datacenter' server to cover this problem, you are turly right ,china's network still not good,and different area'people have different speeds,it really troubled me,sigh ..

    i think this problem have no anwser but with my lucky ,though i am test a lot,maybe the reslut still the same
    Based on my experiences, US value bandwidth usually only fast for PCCW network in HK. Like if I'm on a 8M PCCW line, I can push 800k easy but if I'm on other HK networks, the speed may go down significantly to a 40k ~ 160k level. The different can be day and night.

    I really don't think cheap bandwidth is suitable for China considered they don't perform well in HK(but usable) and no chance do good in China. Personally, I don't suggest to waste the money and time but if you are rich, try them out and report to us....

    You are right. I think the solution is to have servers in a couple of DCs.

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    Unrelated, possibly stupid question. Do I need an ICP or other license to operate a site-less server in China?

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    No, even though you are willing to apply one but China government will just reject you because it doesn't located in China and they don't have the power to control or shut your server down.
    Last edited by HKPlane; 03-18-2008 at 05:25 AM.

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    Nevermind, sorry to derail.

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    You mentioned you had been looking at our servers. Our servers are located in PA, USA. Not sure what the speeds to China are like as we do not have any customers from china as of yet, i am assuming they would be ok though.

    Just thought i would fill you in seen as you mentioned you were looking

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    You might want to check out DataPipe, they have a datacenter in Hong Kong as well as Shanghai.
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