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03-01-2008, 01:51 PM #1WHT Addict
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Dedicate IP address and SEO campaign
Would it help our SEO campaign if we have a dedicated IP address?
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03-03-2008, 04:28 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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It would help for the sites (network of web sites) when you are talking about different C-class IPs, not for your SEO firm.
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03-04-2008, 09:57 PM #3Aspiring Evangelist
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I doubt the spiders will care. There are plenty of popular sites on shared IPs, and it's very easy (and cheap) for anyone to get an IP for their site. Basing any king of ranking algorithm on IP would be ridiculous.
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03-05-2008, 11:38 AM #4Web Hosting Guru
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If you plan on having multiple sites linking to each other, they'd be better off on separate IPs. Otherwise, I don't think it matters.
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03-05-2008, 08:55 PM #5Junior Guru
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03-06-2008, 08:40 AM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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03-07-2008, 06:37 AM #7Newbie
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Hey,
i dont about this issue.
can you please explain if anyone know?
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03-07-2008, 04:48 PM #8Business Consultant Manager
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Having different SEO sites on different IP Ranges is a falsely. This has been brought up numerous times, where Matt Cutts has had to make specific videos stating this is incorrect.
If this was true I wouldn't have over 500 websites on the same IP Address, where most are "similiar" and having most ranked on the top pages of Google.
How could a dedicated server have up to a thousand customers on a single IP, and have some customers ranked on the first page for many keywords? This is "90's" logic, which is very ancient history when it comes with modern-day search engine optimization. IPs have much to do about nothing...
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03-08-2008, 02:04 AM #9WHT Addict
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03-09-2008, 08:26 PM #10Junior Guru
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What really matters and what will have its final say is how well you optimize your site That would really spell the big difference.
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03-15-2008, 11:53 PM #11Web Hosting Guru
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Sorry, I have to laugh every time someone references Matt. He works for Google. Google hates SEO and wants everything to be natural. He is the Minister of Mis-Information and all qualified SEO's will acknowledge this.
One person I respect is Bruce Clay, and he performed a little study which he blogged about at bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2007/03/which_is_better.html
The engines will use reverse lookup to determine what kind of IP you’re on. If you think they don’t care, consider this: It’s been said that about 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs. Research was then conducted analyzing the top 50 results for certain queries in the various search engines. The research found that 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.
Three percent of Web sites use them, and 90 percent of Web sites in the top 50 results have them. Counterintuitive, don’t you think?
We thought so. In fact, we’ve found it so odd we repeated the tests several times, and each time we got the same results. We’ve even seen cases where switching from a virtual IP to a dedicated IP number alone has caused an increase in rankings.
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03-16-2008, 12:26 AM #12Aspiring Evangelist
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There are many cases where having your site on a dedicated IP address can benefit your rankings. While I believe that Google has solved the problem of banning an IP versus banning one of the sites on that IP, if one of the sites on the shared address that your site is on a blacklist that can affect your site also.
I view this as just a bit of insurance and if you are competing for difficult keywords then every little bit helps.
If you are inter-linking between those 500 sites IMO some dedicated IPs would be a great help.
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03-16-2008, 05:46 PM #13Newbie
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Dedicated IP and SEO
Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If that would have a negative effect on rankings, it would harm the majority of the sites on the web. And that would have been a disaster for small webmasters or for the search engines users.
So, understandably, sharing an IP should not have an effect your ability to rank.
So no need to worry about that. Host your site however you think is best for you, and better spend your time focusing on your content and navigation, making sure that your pages are easy for users to find and to navigate for users regardless of their browser or hardware, and also make sure that the content you provide is informative and unique.
This info is from the Google employee Berghausen. Also, Matt Cutts, Google Engineer confirmed that:
"Links to virtually hosted domains are treated the same as links to domains on dedicated IP addresses."
Good luck.Last edited by Webnauts; 03-16-2008 at 05:53 PM.
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03-21-2008, 06:36 AM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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There are some folks who almost superstitiously think that sharing an IP will effect rankings , think about it, why would Google care a jot whether your IP is shared or dedicated ? Google is an extremely logical and effective machine ( so to speak ) what logical reason would there be in either giving a penalty to shared IPs or a boost to dedicated IPs ?
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03-21-2008, 06:51 AM #15Aspiring Evangelist
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It costs almost nothing ( $0.50 to $1.50 per month) so if a dedicated IP provides even the smallest bit of insurance then why even thing about it??
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03-21-2008, 07:35 AM #16Junior Guru Wannabe
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But it provides no insurance what so ever , so why bother ?
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03-21-2008, 07:57 AM #17Aspiring Evangelist
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If you ever have the misfortune to have a site on your same IP address put on a black list you will rethink that I believe.
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03-21-2008, 06:39 PM #18Newbie
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I don't think that a dedicated IP will help in SEO.
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03-23-2008, 01:58 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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Dedicated IP is mostly used for geographical targeting.
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03-23-2008, 09:27 AM #20Aspiring Evangelist
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03-23-2008, 10:09 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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03-24-2008, 03:41 AM #22Aspiring Evangelist
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Interesting Zafar, but that has nothing whatever to do with dedicated IPs.
Every site on every server (that can be reached that is) has an IP address which is an indication of where the server is located. But even then you ay run across incidents like a client site which was being erroneously assigned an Australian location even though the server was in fact in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong web host had leased a large block of IPs from an Australian ISP.
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03-24-2008, 08:40 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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Last edited by Zafar Ahmed; 03-24-2008 at 08:44 AM.
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03-24-2008, 09:18 AM #24Aspiring Evangelist
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For the low cost of an IP how can it even be a question? There is no question that it cannot hurt and can ONLY help for a site to be on it's own IP. The engines can only see this as another of their tests for how to rank a site. We recommend clients get a dedi IP for the same reasons we recommend they extend their domain registration - that is the search engines WILL show greater respect. Fair or not it is a benefit and the costs are so low we say separate yourself from the masses.
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03-26-2008, 10:51 PM #25Web Hosting Master
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Zafar, you have started promoting SEO here just this week and I am sorry but where ever you get your knowledge from...find someplace else. Until then, this whole guru gimmik is just silly.
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