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    Dedicate IP address and SEO campaign

    Would it help our SEO campaign if we have a dedicated IP address?

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    It would help for the sites (network of web sites) when you are talking about different C-class IPs, not for your SEO firm.
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    I doubt the spiders will care. There are plenty of popular sites on shared IPs, and it's very easy (and cheap) for anyone to get an IP for their site. Basing any king of ranking algorithm on IP would be ridiculous.
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    If you plan on having multiple sites linking to each other, they'd be better off on separate IPs. Otherwise, I don't think it matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zionchild View Post
    Would it help our SEO campaign if we have a dedicated IP address?
    I can see no difference in terms of SEO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awatson View Post
    If you plan on having multiple sites linking to each other, they'd be better off on separate IPs. Otherwise, I don't think it matters.
    That won't make a difference either, for the links to take effect the domain names would have to be different. Nothing else.

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    Hey,

    i dont about this issue.

    can you please explain if anyone know?

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    Having different SEO sites on different IP Ranges is a falsely. This has been brought up numerous times, where Matt Cutts has had to make specific videos stating this is incorrect.

    If this was true I wouldn't have over 500 websites on the same IP Address, where most are "similiar" and having most ranked on the top pages of Google.

    How could a dedicated server have up to a thousand customers on a single IP, and have some customers ranked on the first page for many keywords? This is "90's" logic, which is very ancient history when it comes with modern-day search engine optimization. IPs have much to do about nothing...


    Quote Originally Posted by MrCat View Post
    I can see no difference in terms of SEO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkFloydWS View Post
    Having different SEO sites on different IP Ranges is a falsely. This has been brought up numerous times, where Matt Cutts has had to make specific videos stating this is incorrect.

    If this was true I wouldn't have over 500 websites on the same IP Address, where most are "similiar" and having most ranked on the top pages of Google.

    How could a dedicated server have up to a thousand customers on a single IP, and have some customers ranked on the first page for many keywords? This is "90's" logic, which is very ancient history when it comes with modern-day search engine optimization. IPs have much to do about nothing...
    Thank you, Pinkfloyd. The clouds of doubts hovering my mind are now cleared. I now can see the light of truth regarding this matter.

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    What really matters and what will have its final say is how well you optimize your site That would really spell the big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkFloydWS View Post
    Having different SEO sites on different IP Ranges is a falsely. This has been brought up numerous times, where Matt Cutts has had to make specific videos stating this is incorrect.

    If this was true I wouldn't have over 500 websites on the same IP Address, where most are "similiar" and having most ranked on the top pages of Google.

    How could a dedicated server have up to a thousand customers on a single IP, and have some customers ranked on the first page for many keywords? This is "90's" logic, which is very ancient history when it comes with modern-day search engine optimization. IPs have much to do about nothing...
    Sorry, I have to laugh every time someone references Matt. He works for Google. Google hates SEO and wants everything to be natural. He is the Minister of Mis-Information and all qualified SEO's will acknowledge this.

    One person I respect is Bruce Clay, and he performed a little study which he blogged about at bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2007/03/which_is_better.html

    The engines will use reverse lookup to determine what kind of IP youíre on. If you think they donít care, consider this: Itís been said that about 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs. Research was then conducted analyzing the top 50 results for certain queries in the various search engines. The research found that 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.

    Three percent of Web sites use them, and 90 percent of Web sites in the top 50 results have them. Counterintuitive, donít you think?

    We thought so. In fact, weíve found it so odd we repeated the tests several times, and each time we got the same results. Weíve even seen cases where switching from a virtual IP to a dedicated IP number alone has caused an increase in rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkFloydWS View Post
    Having different SEO sites on different IP Ranges is a falsely. This has been brought up numerous times, where Matt Cutts has had to make specific videos stating this is incorrect.

    If this was true I wouldn't have over 500 websites on the same IP Address, where most are "similiar" and having most ranked on the top pages of Google.

    How could a dedicated server have up to a thousand customers on a single IP, and have some customers ranked on the first page for many keywords? This is "90's" logic, which is very ancient history when it comes with modern-day search engine optimization. IPs have much to do about nothing...
    There are many cases where having your site on a dedicated IP address can benefit your rankings. While I believe that Google has solved the problem of banning an IP versus banning one of the sites on that IP, if one of the sites on the shared address that your site is on a blacklist that can affect your site also.

    I view this as just a bit of insurance and if you are competing for difficult keywords then every little bit helps.

    If you are inter-linking between those 500 sites IMO some dedicated IPs would be a great help.
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    Thumbs up Dedicated IP and SEO

    Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If that would have a negative effect on rankings, it would harm the majority of the sites on the web. And that would have been a disaster for small webmasters or for the search engines users.

    So, understandably, sharing an IP should not have an effect your ability to rank.

    So no need to worry about that. Host your site however you think is best for you, and better spend your time focusing on your content and navigation, making sure that your pages are easy for users to find and to navigate for users regardless of their browser or hardware, and also make sure that the content you provide is informative and unique.

    This info is from the Google employee Berghausen. Also, Matt Cutts, Google Engineer confirmed that:

    "Links to virtually hosted domains are treated the same as links to domains on dedicated IP addresses."
    You might would need to worry if you are using the same web site template, for more sites, hosting on the same IP. But I guess that is far off-topic.

    Good luck.
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    There are some folks who almost superstitiously think that sharing an IP will effect rankings , think about it, why would Google care a jot whether your IP is shared or dedicated ? Google is an extremely logical and effective machine ( so to speak ) what logical reason would there be in either giving a penalty to shared IPs or a boost to dedicated IPs ?

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    It costs almost nothing ( $0.50 to $1.50 per month) so if a dedicated IP provides even the smallest bit of insurance then why even thing about it??
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    But it provides no insurance what so ever , so why bother ?

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    If you ever have the misfortune to have a site on your same IP address put on a black list you will rethink that I believe.
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    I don't think that a dedicated IP will help in SEO.

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    Dedicated IP is mostly used for geographical targeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed View Post
    Dedicated IP is mostly used for geographical targeting.

    HUH???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    HUH???
    In response to your "HUH" - I said it is good for geo-targeting depending where your server is based.

    for example, if your server is based in USA - your site is likely to rank well in Google.com.
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    Interesting Zafar, but that has nothing whatever to do with dedicated IPs.

    Every site on every server (that can be reached that is) has an IP address which is an indication of where the server is located. But even then you ay run across incidents like a client site which was being erroneously assigned an Australian location even though the server was in fact in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong web host had leased a large block of IPs from an Australian ISP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melnel View Post
    Interesting Zafar, but that has nothing whatever to do with dedicated IPs.

    Every site on every server (that can be reached that is) has an IP address which is an indication of where the server is located. But even then you ay run across incidents like a client site which was being erroneously assigned an Australian location even though the server was in fact in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong web host had leased a large block of IPs from an Australian ISP.
    Well, this is actually not good if you are targeting just one country, however, there are many other ways to do GEOGRAPHICAL seo, this was just the major one.

    Thanks for letting me know though.

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    For the low cost of an IP how can it even be a question? There is no question that it cannot hurt and can ONLY help for a site to be on it's own IP. The engines can only see this as another of their tests for how to rank a site. We recommend clients get a dedi IP for the same reasons we recommend they extend their domain registration - that is the search engines WILL show greater respect. Fair or not it is a benefit and the costs are so low we say separate yourself from the masses.
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    Zafar, you have started promoting SEO here just this week and I am sorry but where ever you get your knowledge from...find someplace else. Until then, this whole guru gimmik is just silly.
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    Zafar, I must agree with AHFB HTML

    Just taking a quick look at your posts regarding this dedi IP issue I have to wonder if you are guessing

    A Dedi IP has nothing to do with geographic targeting - it is beneficial for SEO for many reasons but the overwhelming reason is for the search engines to see it as a stand-alone site. A dedi IP is also obviously required for dedi & VPS Servers. Many other needs include special connections to merchant providers and the like.

    When talking about geographic targets for specific ad campaigns (for example) the dedi IP required needs to be specific to the area or areas targeted

    There are companies that do nothing but confirmation of ad campaigns for large companies and they go to Hosting (and other) companies all over to request an IP for a specific city (for example) as they use a bounce technique to be able to confirm for their client that the ad provider did what they promised to do

    You're way off course on this one my friend
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