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    SEO for 100 Domains

    I have 100 domains that all relate to the same thing.

    I made a splash page for each one of them and catered the title of the page to match the domain name.

    Only one of these domains have actual content.

    How do I get these domains into high ranking positions to bring more traffic?

    I was once schooled on how to do this, but have forgotten who it was and what the method was.

    Thank you for your valuable time and guidance...

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    Hello!
    Are you going to create network of web sites? In this case you need at least have separate C-class for the domain names.
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    i do not plan to build a complete site for each domain...

    i just want to increase search engine results for each one...
    they all link to one website...
    i am seeking the maximum amount of traffic i can get out of what i have, without spending any money...

    do i have options on what i can do?

    i've learned almost everything except for seo...
    my programmer sent me here...

    thanks for your valuable time...

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    You will most likely find yourself black listed, search for googles black list on mercedes. Google considers this as typical domainer activity, creating doorway pages is a black hat tactic. You need to create fully built out sites with quality back links in from other sites. People hate parked domains they just clutter the internet. Do your own SEO research start with the google webmaster guildlines first, another good reference point is the SEO book from sitepoint.

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    whats the website address?
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    You can't get high SERPS or organic ranking for a domain that does not have a content. On the other hand, directing that many domains to your site (doorway sites) will lead to the main site being penalized by Google.

    Keep it simple and work on building links and optimizing your main site.
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    i am seeking the maximum amount of traffic i can get out of what i have, without spending any money...
    Your best opt is really to advertise if you want fast traffic to your sites.

    Now if you interlink all thos pages and point to your major site, you risk getting penalized especially if they are all hosted in the same server.
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    Pay for banner space on other sites.
    Think about linked in; don't redirect domains you have to the same site on the same server, that is a bit sketchy.
    Easiest way I found to advertise is make a good banner and get it put on as many sites as possible. This ensures more hits to your site.

    I've tried to help people with SEO for a long time. It's a tricky question; turning hits/visits into actual money is the trick.
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    Content is the king. Google gives much preference to content. So try to develop quality content. C-class IP also matters a lot. Truly saying, there are n numbers of white hat techniques to optimize a site, especially when it comes to optimize 100 sites with the same IP.
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    it sounds like you have ONE real website and 99 DOORWAY pages.

    Google msn and yahoo ALL HATE Doorway pages.

    Take some good advice, just concentrate on THAT ONE, drop the other 99. don't waste your time and you WILL get banned. When your banned from adsense, don't come crying on here, i've seen it happen SEVERAL times.

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    Google built only one website and the founders are now billionaires. Develop a site one at a time. Focus is the keyword here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zionchild View Post
    Google built only one website and the founders are now billionaires. Develop a site one at a time. Focus is the keyword here.
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    Hey,

    If your all domain web content is same then create the issue of duplicate content.

    If your all domain content is different then no prob with your all domain.

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    So wait, all of these domains point to the same content, right? I need to know this before being able to offer the right advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclei View Post
    We are getting off track here a bit. The OP asked for SEO advice on doing a certain thing. Let's try to just stick to that, not our personal feelings about one website or hundreds.
    Not really, everyone is giving good advice and trying to steer the op awavy from what he wants to do because its unethical and also will get him blacklisted.

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    I like nuclei's advice, but you could do almost as well by spending the same time and effort getting links to your main site instead of the 99 others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclei View Post
    We are getting off track here a bit. The OP asked for SEO advice on doing a certain thing. Let's try to just stick to that, not our personal feelings about one website or hundreds.
    Especially when the opinions are without merit. Try Googling seo host

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACscr View Post
    Not really, everyone is giving good advice and trying to steer the op awavy from what he wants to do because its unethical and also will get him blacklisted.
    Pointing 99 of the domains to the main one via a proper 301 is not in the least unethical, and it can help with rankings as well. So yes, going off on tangents that have nothing to do with search optimization is not helping, and only makes this area dedicated to SEO look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclei View Post
    Pointing 99 of the domains to the main one via a proper 301 is not in the least unethical, and it can help with rankings as well. So yes, going off on tangents that have nothing to do with search optimization is not helping, and only makes this area dedicated to SEO look bad.
    Its as unethical as you can get. You are trying to munipulate a website rankings by points lots of other domains to it! I bet those other domains arent going to have uniquie quality content on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by djorgensen View Post
    Its as unethical as you can get. You are trying to munipulate a website rankings by points lots of other domains to it! I bet those other domains arent going to have uniquie quality content on them
    Umm, according to Googles Matt Cutts, the head of their spam division, a 301 redirect is the PROPER way to point other domains to your main website. So, ummm NO, it is not unethical in the least.

    As for your second comment, of bloody course those other domains will not have content on them, they are redirected to the main website.......

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    Build backlinks, lots of them.

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    wow, thanks for all of the feedback guys!

    i do believe i have been blacklisted, i get the worst search results possible for sure.

    so far i think i may try to 301 route, if i do, does anyone know how long it will be before my blacklist status is removed?

    is there something i need to do, other than wait it out, after i am done making them all 301 to the domain?

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    301 is neither practical.
    Instead of getting LINKS from various different domains and then doing 301 to main domain .. its better to develop back link for main domain only. It will help in long term as well as will help you to establish your "brandname" or better recognisation.

    So.. cut the crap ie. those 99 domains..
    Concentrate on main domain, create content for it, create back link for it only. Also make sure that you do not create duplicate content and your site is done..

    BTW, if your site is already blacklisted as you say (but I think its only not properly ranked) then start with fresh good domain and work upon it instead.

    Good Luck !

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    Quote Originally Posted by djorgensen View Post
    Its as unethical as you can get. You are trying to munipulate a website rankings by points lots of other domains to it! I bet those other domains arent going to have uniquie quality content on them
    He might get a good results for one day, then it will drop to the bottom forever.

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    Didnt we already tell him this was going to happen at the beginning of the post? And now it has, hmm .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaffery View Post
    301 is neither practical.
    Instead of getting LINKS from various different domains and then doing 301 to main domain .. its better to develop back link for main domain only.
    That is a load of horse-crap.

    From an SEO point of view, and knowing how the search engines handle links, getting links to the domains, then 301'ing them, your main site actually gets credit for the links that were 301'd to the main domain, (even if they are from the same places).

    Plain and simple, you get a far better link popularity in the end doing it that way.

    You still develop the links to your main website to build brand recognition, but you stand to pick up all of the extra links AS WELL as any rankings the sites that were 301'd had developed on their own, all pointing to your main site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourTwenty View Post
    is there something i need to do, other than wait it out, after i am done making them all 301 to the domain?
    After you make sure that the rest of the main website is sparkling clean and not spammy in the least (this is VERY important, so take the time to go thru the whole site), file a reinclusion request with google.

    Create a webmaster tools account and sign in: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools

    Add your main site to your Google Webmaster Tools account:
    http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=34592

    Then verifying your website: http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=35179

    Then on the Dashboard, under Tools in the list on the right, click Request reconsideration and follow the steps.
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    I think you missed this page from your reading

    http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=66355


    Quote Originally Posted by nuclei View Post
    Bull...

    Which part of my pointing out that Matt Cutts, the head of googles spam division, says that 301's are the "proper" way to redirect other domains to the primary one did you miss exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Arm View Post
    I think you missed this page from your reading

    http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=66355

    Ummm no, I think you have absolutely no clue as to what either "cloaking" or javascript redirects are... so once again, Bull!

    The page you pasted deals with cloaking and some sneaky JS redirects which can be considered a minor form of cloaking.

    A 301 is not a javascript redirect that is meant to lure people in on one keyword which is displayed to search engine spiders, which the redirect directs real users elsewhere, or even remotely considered cloaking in any fashion.

    A 301 tells the search engines where to go BEFORE any text that could be construed as "spider bait", therefore is impossible to use as a cloaking method.
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    Funny that you overlooked the Doorway pages paragraphs on the same page.
    Do you even have a portfolio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Arm View Post
    Funny that you overlooked the Doorway pages paragraphs on the same page.
    Do you even have a portfolio?

    I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    Doorway page definition from the page you posted:

    "Doorway pages are typically large sets of poor-quality pages where each page is optimized for a specific keyword or phrase. In many cases, doorway pages are written to rank for a particular phrase and then funnel users to a single destination"

    Now, what exactly does a 301 "SERVER SIDE" redirect have to do with a static page (Doorway Page) that contains text, then redirects, or "funnels" users to another page, generally using sneaky javascript redirects after 0 seconds?

    The simple answer, none.

    A 301 redirect is a "server side" redirect. This means that it is performed before ANY pages are displayed. Not doorway pages, real pages, or any other type of pages get displayed. It simply redirects to the new page. There is no cloaking, no funneling from a doorway page, no JS redirection after a doorway page is displayed for the engines benefit.

    A wise man once said, it is far better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.
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    William,
    we are not getting anywhere with this, you are stucked to the 301 word.
    I'll quote you from before:
    The best thing you can do, in my opinion, is to get as many links to each domain, then when they all start showing up in the engines, 301 all but the main one TO the main one. This will pass the link juice and any ranking assistance from the links with keywords as anchors to the main site.
    Now the OP doesn't plan to build a site for each domain as he says.
    So what linkjuice will he pass on from a domain that does not have content,
    which even if he did that it will take him one year to get to PR 2 with some links
    and them maybe link to the main site.
    So what's the value of doing what you mention in the quoted text?

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    thanks for all of your help here william, you are finally breaking through to me here... it's taken me years to get to the seo part of my business, i wish i investigated this further, long ago for sure...

    i own all of these domains, not to try to bring more traffic and play dirty net games to beat the business and be shady, i own them all to own all of the names associated with my website...

    for example, if you own hotdogs.com, wouldn't you also want to own hot-dogs.com, hotdog.com, hot-dog.com, hottdogs.com, franks.com, weiners.com, hotdawgs.com, hot-dawgs.com, etc.?

    so i have these hundred or so domains that are all name related to my one website with tons of content... the website has been in business for 15 years... it is also a pay website...

    what if i put up a small tour on each of those domains, or even blogs, promoting the one domain? would a 5 page tour or a blog be considered a site with content? it might generate more revenue than going the 301 route.

    what do you think?

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    FourTwenty: you are very welcome.

    Steve_Arm:

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Arm View Post
    William,
    we are not getting anywhere with this, you are stucked to the 301 word.
    Yes, because what I told him was to utilize a 301 and your post after that stated simply: "He might get a good results for one day, then it will drop to the bottom forever.", which quite simply, is a load of bull$%^#%$#.

    As to the contents of the quoted post above, it is assumed each domain utilizes keywords in the url structure, as the OP just confirmed for me above this post. A couple links to each of those, will have that url in them.....

    As to PR, who gives a damn about PR anymore except newbies and link sellers?? There are far better ways to gauge a links worthiness than PR will ever be or ever actually was. The pretty green bar is nothing more than slight of hand. Your watching it instead of seeing where the magic is happening or how and why.

    What value will it have to him? A lot in actuality.

    stucked? Nah, I am not even going to go into that rant.
    Last edited by nuclei; 07-13-2008 at 08:21 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourTwenty View Post
    what if i put up a small tour on each of those domains, or even blogs, promoting the one domain? would a 5 page tour or a blog be considered a site with content? it might generate more revenue than going the 301 route.

    what do you think?
    That would benefit you in 2 ways, #1 to be able to target the sites to various subniches of your main sites niche, and #2. to serve as real and valid links to the main domain which can utilize targeted anchor text properly. The thing is to make them all "real" websites as far as google is concerned, using just basic tours would probably classify them as just "affiliate" type sites, which while not being bad, will not get as much consideration by the engines. I would think blogs woul be the better choice, but then you have one hell of a chore in creating them with enough content, (at least 5 pages to start) and keeping them updated frequently with fresh and NOT duplicated elsewhere, content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Arm View Post
    Funny that you overlooked the Doorway pages paragraphs on the same page.
    Do you even have a portfolio?
    Just wanted to throw this in here.. 301ing is NOT a doorway page. I know nuclei already clarified but I just wanted to also throw this in. The "literal" definition of a doorway page is this:

    site.com/keyword-one
    site.com/keyword-two
    site.com/keyword-three

    All of which have spam text (Markov commonly) and then they 301 to another domain, so that the other domain gets the "trustrank" (yes, trustrank - NOT pagerank) score of the previous pages. This way the new domain could possibly rank for these terms, or at least get a + score for those terms.

    Just wanted to throw that in there, I have personal experience with testing this theory to see if it works - by the way - it does.
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    thanks guys!

    i think my best route for now is to do a 301 on them all and then ask yahoo and google to reconsider the domains... then when i have the time, build blogs for each and every one of them...

    you guys rule, thank you so very much for your valuable time and support, breaking this all down for me in a language i can easily understand!

    i will be back for my next dilemma soon for sure...

    hope you all have a great day!

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