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  1. #1
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    Actually using all the storage space offered

    I see hosts that offer something like 600 GB of storage on a shared plan. Have you every known anyone that actually used all the space, and the host didn't mind?

    For example, I would love to use my host as a backup for my home computer stuff if I thought they would actually allow me to use it.
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    Well to even come close to upload 600gb of storage to an online shared account will be tough. You will need at least 600gb of bandwidth just to upload it once and if you need to download it add another 600gb of bandwidth. If a host does allow this then do not count on them to provide support or for them to keep you around for a long time. You won't get support because the plan you purchased is probably one of those $2.00 plan that do not add up to what they are offering and the second thing is most host to not anticipate someone actually using all the specs.

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    Most hosts that offer that much have so many rules set in place you will never be able to use it. Even if you are able to, what kind of quality are you going to get out of it?
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    wow, another topic about overselling.

    Do me a favor, sign up with an a good overselling host, like hostgator or dreamhost, and follow the tos.

    Is it that hard?
    Do you think its smart to use a WEB HOST to just backup your 100's of gigs of backups?
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    If it's not there to be used, it shouldn't be advertised in the first place.
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    Is this possible ? may be they have a SUPER COMPUTER . i think these all are the marketing tricks and nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canvas View Post
    If it's not there to be used, it shouldn't be advertised in the first place.
    It can be used, assuming you don't break their tos.
    Is it that hard to understand?
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    Good luck trying to "use" all the resources they gave to you without breaking their TOS.... I would actually be very interested if anyone has uploaded around 100GB to any webhost that offers a plan for around $10.
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    I'm opening a gaming website soon, that will have Game Patches, Free Online Games, Trailers, I'm sure I will get near the 600gig I'm promised from Hostgator. The few ToS I'm worried about are

    a) Use 25% or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds. There are numerous activities that could cause such problems; these include: CGI scripts, FTP, PHP, HTTP, etc.

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    All I heared in case "i need 0,5 - 15 Tb of space..." is: in that case, go for VPS or dedicated server. Most of hosts does not allow their space to be used as file storage + they may suspend you claiming you are using too much of CPU resources.

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    If you want to use up 600GB of storage, you should have the money to pay for that much. If you end up on a web host offering that much space for less than $10 per month, they are overselling which means they do not expect you to use up all the allocated storage/bandwidth.

    The entire overselling business is based on not expecting your customers to use what you provide them. There are about 200 average accounts on each shared hosting server, if all 200 of those accounts had 600GB of storage, then the server would need to have 120TB hard drive or have a SAN setup which allows them to add more hard drives as needed. No web host would charge you $5 per month with a SAN setup.

    Average customer uses less than 1gb disk space. No one really uses that much disk space, if they do, they violate some other terms specified by the web hosting company and are kicked off for resource abuse of some kind.
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    Anyone know what type of storage webhost that provide large web space use ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canvas View Post
    If it's not there to be used, it shouldn't be advertised in the first place.
    Its like 'All you can eat'.
    Sure, they'll let you bring you plate back a time or two, but we actually had a chinese guy at an all you can eat place finally come out to 'block' us from getting to the shrimp bar.
    The sign said 'All you can eat' but apparently there WERE restrictions to the deal.

    Its false advertising, thats for sure.

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    For example, I would love to use my host as a backup for my home computer stuff if I thought they would actually allow me to use it.
    Read the TOS carefully, ask the host directly if such usage is allowed, and then keep in mind that rules can change in time. Personally, I hold the belief that if the host can make a profit when dealing with me, it gives them a direct incentive to keep my business, and the other way around.

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    Most web hosting TOS' restrict your site content to "site related materials".

    The concept of overselling in itself is not bad, it's up to the host to accept responsibility that you cannot win them all. The "good" overselling hosts will bite the bullet and accept the fact that they're losing money on your account but they make money on most of the other accounts.
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    I think you guys are missing a key part of his post:

    Quote Originally Posted by dvduval View Post
    Have you every known anyone that actually used all the space, and the host didn't mind?
    We all know the overselling story, but does anyone know someone who's successfully used all the resources on an overselling host and gotten away with it? How about routinely?

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    Good Day Mr. Williams.

    Yes there are a few success stories in this regard and those are the ones that bite the bullet and accept a few full usage customers. They are responsible hosts.

    The bad side of this is once everybody (potential clients) gets wind that they actually allow full usage of resources, it gets abused and the host starts getting and even higher percentage of full usage clients and loses even more money. It's a vicious cycle.
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    Good luck trying to "use" all the resources they gave to you without breaking their TOS.... I would actually be very interested if anyone has uploaded around 100GB to any webhost that offers a plan for around $10.
    I have done this. I needed to back a couple 250GB disks up so I could format them and re-install from afresh.

    I contacted HG who said that you are allowed to use the full amount they allocate, as long as you stick the the TOS, whis is below.

    In summary you are not allowed to:
    a) Use 25% or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds. There are numerous activities that could cause such problems; these include: CGI scripts, FTP, PHP, HTTP, etc.
    b) Run stand-alone, unattended server-side processes at any point in time on the server. This includes any and all daemons, such as IRCD.
    c) Run any software that interfaces with an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network.
    d) Run any bit torrent application, tracker, or client. Please note that you may link to torrents off server, but may not host or store them.
    e) Participate in any file-sharing/peer-to-peer activities
    f) Run any gaming servers such as counter-strike, half-life, battlefield1492, etc
    g) Run cron entries with intervals of less than 15 minutes
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