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02-13-2008, 03:28 AM #1Disabled
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Offsite backups, can you use a shared host or should it be another VPS?
Hello all, since my latest nightmare experience with TheNYNoc.com I am looking for a place to host backups of my new VPS. TheNYNoc.com screwed up my VPS and wouldn't let me get any backups, so now I am going to make sure I have backups!
Should I get another small VPS, or can I use a shared hosting environment? All I need to use it for is storing the backups. I'm going to set it up in WHM to FTP the backups to a remote server. It seems it would be a lot cheaper to use a shared hosting account, but what is the best way to do it?
Thanks
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02-13-2008, 03:52 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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depends on how big is your backup files. do you only backup cpanel accounts or do you want to backup the whole vps too? I think you should consider that too (backup whole vps)
if you only backup cpanel accounts and it's not so big i think shared hosting is fine. but what is my concern on using shared hosting is the security of your backups. for convenience i suggest to sign up another VPS or better a dedicated server with big HDD (no need speedy processor or big RAM)HalfDedi.com • Half Dedicated Half Price
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02-13-2008, 03:54 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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forgot one thing: bandwidth, it's better if you can get 100Mbps connection. If your backup files grow very big, it will be take hours to upload gigs of files
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02-13-2008, 04:57 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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It seems that backup is very important thing for you. I would recomend you also consider seperate backup solutions? It seems they are not too expencive nowadays.
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02-13-2008, 05:33 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Try getting just a backup account with bqbackup.com?
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02-13-2008, 05:35 AM #6Junior Guru
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I currently use shared hosting with some big coupons, I find it enough. If your file size is really huge or security is your concern, I think you will need some real offsite backup solutions.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=668043
Head to the dedicated server forum, there is a talk about bqbackup reseller.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=668797
If you want some crazy cheap offsite backup service, you can consider VaultArray. VP-Kaumil do visit VPS forum too, he is also a VPS provider.
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02-13-2008, 07:40 AM #7Junior Guru
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I've been using Serverways.com for remote backups now for a couple of weeks...
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=669940
Works well for me!
I had an account with a reseller of bqbackup but it was unreliable due to running out of space. I think bqbackup has become a victim of it's own success?
Serverways prices are better for smaller amounts of disk space anyhow, I don't need 100GB.
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02-13-2008, 10:10 AM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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02-13-2008, 05:27 PM #9Backup Guru
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02-14-2008, 12:08 AM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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02-14-2008, 12:16 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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I think a shared plan with plenty of space and bandwidth would be able to suit your needs. I don't see any reason as to get another VPS since it's only for backups right?
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02-14-2008, 12:59 AM #12Disabled
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Thanks for the suggestions. Amazon s3 looks good, but I don't understand how it all works. Do they just give you an FTP account and you setup your server to send backups to that FTP account?
Edit:
I just signed up, but it makes no sense. I consider myself to be pretty good with things like this, but this make absolutely no sense at all. I don't see where I get the FTP account info. All I see is some descriptions on AWS Access Identifiers, and Access Key ID and Secret Access Key?Last edited by build-a-host; 02-14-2008 at 01:12 AM.
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02-14-2008, 01:02 PM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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Amazon s3 uses a custom API, you need a script or application to interface with it. Jungledisk is a commercial application that would work as a backup system along with rsync. S3sync is a free ruby script. I use the full/incremental feature of Tar to back things up, then use s3sync to send it to Amazon. I schedule it with CRON and it works flawlessly.