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    Exclamation GServers = Untrustworhy, Unethical, Scammers. BEWARE

    This is a follow up to my previous thread about a negative experience with Gservers(http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...rvers+negative) - Do a search on WHT, think youll find all the reviews around here are negative.

    To anyone who is/was with/has tried to be/has been scammed by Gservers/Gomer I also feel your pain.

    I will start by a short overall summary:

    Dec 12 Server Ordered, a month passes. Server is not online because mobo was DOE or icompaible(didnt know)

    Gomer goes on vacation for Xmas and when he returns, after a lot of struggling and constant issues(Didn't even know how to setup Raid 1 or CentOS properly), and not going to the DC within the scheduled time frame as he "got high" the night before - we had a server online.

    It seemed a miricle that finally a server was working, although we had our doubts about staying with them due to the issues.

    Yesterday our server goes offline after being running for a week at best, we sent numerous text messages to Gomer, as well as emails and also contacted Max.

    It seems Gomer is now "Broke", has taken all of his customers servers out of the KPN DC (After recently having an advertisment on WHT) and is now ignoring all his customers with no refunds.

    After being down 23 hours, Max started responding on MSN!:

    Here are some logs for you

    Max says: ok to tell u i cant help u anymore find some other hosting please
    Us: has gservers gone?
    Max says: something like that yes
    Max says: olmost all servers are gone now

    Max says: well i dont know how gomer doesnt respond on anything and he has the servers
    Max says: the servers are @ his home
    Max says: i cant do a thing

    It turns out that without any warning Gomer/Gservers have taken all customer servers offline and they are now god knows how many miles from the DC.

    Then something else - Seems another family member has stepped in to deal with the issues!

    Max says:
    well ok believe it or not
    Max says:
    i spoke his mom
    Max says:
    my servers and from some 2 other guys and gservers.nl is still there
    Max says:
    all others are gone

    us: so why do you think, in your oppinion like, he has taken them out
    Max says: he told me long time ago he wanted to stop

    Yep so doing a big WHT ad with good offers it the best way to stop running a company..

    Max is trying to help at least, and supposadly he gets some servers from Gomer for free just to help out with support. Although I do have a feeling he may be playing this with gomer. Who knows...

    Whilst I have already posted a negative thread about this lame excuse for a company, I thought I would let the other GServers customers/ex-customers know whats going on at the moment.

    Basically, your server is at Gomer's house, according to max he is going to wipe the data and you will not be refunded by the looks of things. He is ignoring our messages and even Max's messages - when he is a member of staff.

    I don't know if anyone in NL knows Gomer on a personal basis however any additional information is appreciated.

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    If you paid with paypal, have you filed a chargeback?

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    .... Oh my god....
    Who is Max? And yes, do a chargeback if you paid by CC.

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    It sounds like Max is trying to pretend like he has nothing to do with it but I believe he does. Looks like they tried to do a one night stand and just take the money and takeoff. I would try to do a chargeback through paypal or your credit card company if possible.
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    I was expecting a server for tomorrow.I haven't paid yet.What a shame! Thanks Chris for the informations

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    Avoid this company like the plague

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    I hope you've paid via credit card, generally, even if PayPal decides to refund you there won't be any money in their account.

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    Once again people...do some research before going with a company. I am sorry this happened but it was incredibly clear that their offers were impossible. This could easily be foreseen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandrios View Post
    Once again people...do some research before going with a company. I am sorry this happened but it was incredibly clear that their offers were impossible. This could easily be foreseen.
    In this case I think it was not that easy to predict. It was said in another thread GServers was 2+ years on the market and searching WHT you find positive comments from supposed satisfied GServers customers. Also the servers were not that cheap -- you may find similar priced servers in many European providers.

    I talked with "gomer" in November last year to clear doubts regarding GServer's site offerings "Dual C2D" and "C2D Single" and found the "company" called "Dual" a "Core 2 Duo" and "Single" a "Core 2 Solo." After the conversation, GServers fixed the specs but I lost confidence and I didn't sign up.

    It seems GServers used WHT to lure people just before this "grand finale" delivering XEN VPSs running on old Pentium presented as Core dedicated servers.

    Quote Originally Posted by case42 View Post
    Gservers.nl are crooks, they're trying to sell „dedicated” servers which are in fact only VPS's. Which is why they can offer a Core Solo 2.4GHz CPU while, according to Intel's website, the fastest Core Solo in existence has a speed of 1.83 GHz.

    After seeing their offers in the Dedicated Hosting Offers forum, I decided to order an Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 2.4 GHz dedicated server on Dec 13. The money I sent by wire transfer arrived on Dec 18.
    [...]

    By that time it was pretty obvious that this was not a dedicated, but a virtual machine. So I went to ask Gomer on IRC what the deal was with these odd hardware details. At first he claimed he had no idea. After I confronted him with more proof and told him that I knew that this was a VPS and not the dedicated box I had ordered and paid for, he denied it. At the end, he said something along the lines of „What does it matter, VPS and dedicated is almost the same.“

    At that point (still on December 20th), I asked for a refund. To approximately no one's surprise, I'm still waiting to receive my money today (January 22), even though I reminded Gomer about it several times.

    Read more here http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=665498
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotHostel View Post
    In this case I think it was not that easy to predict. It was said in another thread GServers was 2+ years on the market and searching WHT you find positive comments from supposed satisfied GServers customers. Also the servers were not that cheap -- you may find similar priced servers in many European providers.
    [...]
    Well yes and no. They stated to be colocating in the xs4all datacenter. xs4all is one of the most expensive (if not the most expensive) in Amsterdam. Rackspace is cheap in comparison

    And that was said by a few people who have experience with xs4all as well (in the advertisement thread here at WHT). Maybe due to their past it might have been hard to believe but their offer was really impossible on that network.

    To give you an idea of typical xs4all prices:

    Dual xeon with 2GB ram
    36GB drives in raid-1
    1TB traffic

    200 euro+vat setup (= $275 USD)
    870 euro+vat monthly (= $1200 USD)

    Yet they offered these servers for under $100. Thats not really profitable
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    Hello,

    Alright, I have known max for about 3-4 years now. And I used to be with his hosting to. As you have found out, all of his hosting is done with gomer. Max and gomer are IRL friends, they do see eachother, but not that often. If gomer does something with the servers, max cannot do anything except call gomer and talk to him. I remember a while back, my server went down and it was due to Gomer stepping on the power cord switch for my server.

    So either way, don't get mad at Max. He is a good guy, and I am sure he is trying his hardest to help you. Im 100% sure.
    Gomer is behind this, not Max.

    Cya,
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    Last edited by TomBoy123; 01-27-2008 at 09:59 AM.

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    omg, don't fall to hosting companies like this. it's a trap.

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    Thank u Tommis for explaining but it seems there are people here that wont believe me. I have nothing to do with Gomer its his company not MINE. and its his decision. so please stop whining at me. im trying to do what i can and Chris you really should be happy im still trying to help you. Pasting MSN conversations....

    Max.

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    Not said anything bad about you in this thread "Max is trying to help at least" - the thread is about GServers not specifically you else I would use a different thead subject.

    I don't think there is any harm in letting other Gservers customers know what the situation is. If Gomer doesnt, somebody needs to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandrios View Post
    Well yes and no. They stated to be colocating in the xs4all datacenter. xs4all is one of the most expensive (if not the most expensive) in Amsterdam. Rackspace is cheap in comparison
    I didn't know xs4all is expensive. In fact, my interest for GServers was due their fast and rock solid network. Before contacting Gomer I have placed GServer under monitoring for a couple of days and the results were outstanding. Until now xs4all sounded as an inexpensive excellent service "for all"

    Thanks for the information.
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    i think i was one of the first one to jump on the deal in november. Has been rock solid for almost 3 months. Today was first down time (i have a forum with 20k users) so i know when it goes down lol.

    Now im shocked cuz my entire server database is on that server. I need to at least reover it (gomer allowed me local backup) so i never backed it up to my own im in trouble i think.

    Max if you can help me id appricate it. I just want my database back for my site

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotHostel View Post
    I didn't know xs4all is expensive. In fact, my interest for GServers was due their fast and rock solid network. Before contacting Gomer I have placed GServer under monitoring for a couple of days and the results were outstanding. Until now xs4all sounded as an inexpensive excellent service "for all"

    Thanks for the information.
    How is being stable for a couple of days "rock solid" or even an indication of the quality of a network. Uptime of hosting should be measured at the very least in months, not just a few days.

    Is it just me or are those who lost money or service screwed because they didn't do the proper research necessary before sending their money to someone in another country who lacks any semblance of being a real business?

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    I hope all the customers can find a new home as soon as possible. Also I hope you are able to download the backups which are needed. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scapeish View Post
    How is being stable for a couple of days "rock solid" or even an indication of the quality of a network. Uptime of hosting should be measured at the very least in months, not just a few days.
    I was talking about the XS4ALL network, a well-known provider, not the hosting company. Uptime of the host's site doesn't matter for me.
    Last edited by dotHostel; 01-27-2008 at 04:14 PM.
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    This is sad, i just had my server with them for around a week now, gservers and its been down now for 24 hours , wished i had a way to dump my database from there but i cant connect to no port on the server no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jshg46 View Post
    This is sad, i just had my server with them for around a week now, gservers and its been down now for 24 hours , wished i had a way to dump my database from there but i cant connect to no port on the server no matter what.
    Your server is at Gomer's house.. thats why you can't connect.

    I have been talking with Max all day to try and get Gomer to get our server in the DC for backups. As hard as we tried Gomer is not co-operating. I can say a personal thanks for Max though as he is trying his best in this situation - even though we still have no data from the server.

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    yea i wished he would hook it back up for a few hours and let me get my complete site backed up, after that he can have it.

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    you know if a guy wants out this bad why not just give everyone on his servers a weeks notice to backup and get off or you will loose it all. This really is a raw deal lol.

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    Just spoke with Gomer (GServers) today, a few servers were moved to our co-location facility in Amsterdam. It still unclear where the other servers went, presumably to his house.

    <<no let's not do that>>
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    if i had my site , i might would move over if your service is good and stable , dont want to be in the middle of this anymore.

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    you have any idea which servers he left with you? might help some of us find out servers and sites again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jshg46 View Post
    you have any idea which servers he left with you? might help some of us find out servers and sites again.
    Uncertain, we're trying to reach Gomer/Gservers trying to arrange something...
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    This sounds like one of the most pathetic hosts I've ever heard of in my life. He can't get away with wiping all your data, and not refunding you! >_<

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    v2neo i emailed you lol

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    anyone find out anything new on this problem

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    According to someone at the Dutch WHT, Gomer will post a message onto his web site GServers.nl today, with his own response.
    (I'm not affiliated with GServers.nl anyway, nor do I know the guys behind the company. Just want to share this info.)

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    So...

    Their company is registered with the KvK, which means that you can get all their personal details for a small fee (few bucks).

    With those details what can be done? If they really are planning to screw people over, would it be an option to visit them to get the data?
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    He used fake phone information when registering .nl domain names, which is a high violation for SIDN (the manager of .nl). And he is a registrar himself.

    Plus, I heard he was death, and when calling his phone number, you get his mom on the phone. (He used to have the number on the Whois before, not anymore)

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    At first, it's terrible this way indeed... And a little bit 'criminal' in my eyes...

    I had contacted him a few days before, he bought 2 x APC rebooted switches from me. He had E 320,- instead of the agreed E 340,-. I said to him, you can make a bank transfer. I guess this will never happen

    And, he is deaf, so calling him will be a bit harsh.

    I have his mobile phone number for you, so you can text message him (SMS): +31 623259055

    Good luck guys.

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    Their KvK registration: https://server.db.kvk.nl/TST-BIN/FU/...T=321067310000

    That shows their address, and full records can be retrieved by paying eur 2.50 for the "uittreksel". If everything else fails, paying them a visit might be an otpion. Depending on how much was invested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanke014 View Post
    Just spoke with Gomer (GServers) today, a few servers were moved to our co-location facility in Amsterdam. It still unclear where the other servers went, presumably to his house.

    <<no>>
    Do you have our machine? I have sent you an email.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandrios View Post
    So...

    Their company is registered with the KvK, which means that you can get all their personal details for a small fee (few bucks).

    With those details what can be done? If they really are planning to screw people over, would it be an option to visit them to get the data?
    You can go to the Dutch court, best gather as many people that lost data and claim access to the data, refunds and a damage claim.

    Since Gomer has a Dutch one man company, you will be able to claim all private possessions and income for the comming 20 years.

    Goodluck.
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    Chris E. i done asked that question myself, that guy didnt get any dedicated servers is what he told me.

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    It's really a shame. Had a dedi @gservers too. Now ALL my data is lost. I need a backup to get my site up and running. A database backup would be enough, because i backed up the *.php files a few weeks ago.

    BTW: In Germany its a criminal behaviour what "gomer" did.


    Pls excuse my bad english. i hope you understood what i mean.

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