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01-22-2008, 09:04 AM #1Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Seohosting.com (Hostgator company) really seo hosting? Seems more like a scam
So i went to the seohosting.com website and i saw this
Each SEO hosting plan comes with private branded nameservers on separate Class C IP addresses.
The answer was "No"
They just provide you with 2 nameservers which are the only 2 for the entire server. Only thing is they are on 2 separate classes, but that has no importance.
So that means your websites will just look like they have a dedicated ip...which happens to be in a different c class.
But the same nameservers will ruin any seo ability...
Now seohosting.com is misleading customers here as they don't really provide SEO hosting as it should be done.
Scam? Surely seems like it...Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-22-2008, 09:08 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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thats useful info - so actually, for the IP numbers to seem unique from an SEO perspective the nameservers would have to be unique as well?
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01-22-2008, 09:12 AM #3Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Ofcourse. They should seems to not have anything in common.
Same nameservers will just make them the same as having the same ip.Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-22-2008, 09:23 AM #4Webhosting Professional
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The entire concept of hosting on different Class C IPs is garbage-- Google is going to be excluding IP associated weightage very soon eitherway. It'll all be useless eventually, everyone knows IPv4 space is running out and Google aren't fools.
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01-22-2008, 09:25 AM #5Disabled
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Ouch...
Dunno why'd they call it seohosting when they kill the SEO part in it :|
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01-22-2008, 10:18 AM #6Temporarily Out of Service
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Hi Cabron,
That is incorrect. You can setup as many name servers as you like with as many different ips that belong to the server. This is all included with each plan. I apologize for the wrong information our chat tech provided you.
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01-22-2008, 11:02 AM #7WHT Addict
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01-22-2008, 11:26 AM #8Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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So Nathon was wrong?
So wait a sec? If i purchase 100 different c classes will i alse get 100 different nameserver packs? On the same C classes as the IPs?Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-22-2008, 11:38 AM #9Temporarily Out of Service
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If you purchase 100 c classes you will have one hundred ips that you can use to pair any way you like for name servers.
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01-22-2008, 11:47 AM #10Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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That still wouldn't help me as i could only pair 50. So if i really want the seo to work i could only use 50 of the 100 ips i purchased...
AndEvery SEO Hosting Plan Includes Separate C Class Nameservers Private Branded Nameservers
Also are the customers informed about having to make their own nameservers?Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-22-2008, 11:54 AM #11Temporarily Out of Service
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You can mix and match them as much as you like so the combination of name servers would by much higher. Name servers are easy and free to create at any registrar.
If you have any more questions please pm me.
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01-22-2008, 11:57 AM #12Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Using a ip for a nameserver more than once with different C classes will make them look like being on the same server and will ruin all the seo part of the seo hosting, that's what i'm trying to tell you.
Are you guys so cheap that you can't give ppl nameservers at least? At about $5 per ip you must afford a couple of IPs for christ's sake...Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-22-2008, 12:06 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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I do not know if google consider server host name yet or not, does this accounts have same server host name?
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01-22-2008, 12:54 PM #14Temporarily Out of Service
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If you are purchasing 100 c classes you actually are paying $4.35 per hosting account. There aren't many hosting companies that sell hosting at $4.35 an account on a monthly basis.
With 100 c classes you are given 100's of ips to choose from. This way each name server can have it's very own unique ip address. If there is a problem with this please contact us and I'm sure we can come up with a solution for you at the same price.
Does seohosting help? We have many users that swear that their rankings have increased since joining.
Do I believe it works? I have no idea and nor am I going to claim to have a clue on how google calculates their algorithm.
Whether it works or not their is market demand and seohosting.com has decided to capitalize on this.
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01-25-2008, 01:11 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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I am still a bit confused on how exactly IPs matter when it comes to Google and SEO?
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01-25-2008, 01:54 AM #16Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Different c class IPs make google think that your site is hosted on a different server and makes hte backlinks count.
BUt having the same nameservers will certainly ruin that.Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-25-2008, 02:14 AM #17WHT Addict
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there are many other cost-effective ways to build backlinks, such as article submission, more backlinks from higher PR sites..the site owner also needs to decide which anchor text to use from the site and from the backlinks..
update your content frequently, and also remember "text" and static url is more effective than other formats if you want to be more SE friendly..
anyways. if you want your site to be more SEO..building it based on different C-class IPs is just not wise...
but certainly a good marketing point to break in.
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01-25-2008, 06:05 AM #18Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Not really. Getting links from websites that have a large amount of links diminishes their value. Also if they are not targeted they aren't very valuable.
It's not just about backlinks, it's also about the quality of the backlinks and if you can make some seo'ed sites and just have a few external links you'll certainly increase your seo score.Cheapest Multiple C Class IP Hosting
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01-25-2008, 10:15 AM #19WHT Addict
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What I meant was , don't rely just on that... Instead there would be other factors to look into such as coding and backlinks..
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01-25-2008, 10:47 AM #20Devil's Advocate
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Google changes it's goalposts so often it defies most logic, so on that basis I'd not lose any sleep about different ip's and class c's.
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01-25-2008, 12:05 PM #21Internet:Just Piracy No Scurvy
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Well this is like upban myth and until the mythbusters proove that it's busted it's still up. And it's up cuz quite a few seo ppl out there think it works very nice and it's worth the cost.
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01-25-2008, 02:39 PM #22WHT Addict
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What you're saying about the class c's is old school SEO, Google is phasing away from that. Get relevant backlinks, good content, read about RSS and pinging, get your site crawled daily.. without that you could have a 1,000 ip's and never show up in a google search.