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01-20-2008, 04:05 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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How do new honest hosts get up in the game?
With all of these overselling companies and the big companies that don't have good support out there how do small companies get up in the game? How do they get their name out there so people who want good service notice them? It's nearly impossible to do now-a-days. Anyone have any good suggestions or opinions?
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01-20-2008, 04:12 AM #2WHT Addict
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well if you constantly do good..people will gradually recognize you...
(but you still have to promote your site tho..people won't just come by and visit you. )
2nd thing is make sure you make the packages that will make your profits still in the long run..
being started as small isn't bad..at least you do still have chance to face different customers while you can handle; and gradually build up your experiences to be able to handle more and more customers..one day, it will be big.
and don't forget..every big company used to be small.
so there's no over-night miracle.
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01-20-2008, 04:19 AM #3Disabled
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I agree with that. Reality sucks that web hosting is very competitive these days. So if you are planning to immerse into this industry and start small, you need to exert lots of efforts to be trusted by customers.
You need to have:
(1) competitive products in an aggressive price (don't offer to much though and people might say you are overselling)
(2) quality support that customers and even site visitors can observe
(3) legitimate website promotion
(4) patience, as trust from people doesnt come overnight
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01-20-2008, 04:21 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Heh thanks I did not expect an over-night miracle but it seems my advertising isn't doing much, I plan on going many months more into this maybe a year or 2 before I start having second thoughts but only if it's as slow as it is right now
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01-20-2008, 04:35 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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I have been trying to go through the Steam Game server list for games and asking the clans what they pay for web hosting, but that has gotten me nowhere, I also tried it on Teamspeak and through Clan websites. Are my prices not competitive enough?
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01-20-2008, 04:40 AM #7WHT Addict
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the direct contact with target market does not receive over-night effects either. Everything is always slow at the beginning..
Hosting is not a visible thing..so it depends on reviews and recommendations..
and the chances (depending on how long you plan to invest and how competitive your target market is) are..> the ones that turn big is a small number.
So are you ready for it?
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01-20-2008, 04:41 AM #8Disabled
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Oh you need to have at least five people to act as the engine for your promotion. If each of them targets different types of advertising (socialization, blogging, etc..) -- you might be able to start having customers in at least 6 months. It really depends on your efforts.
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01-20-2008, 05:03 AM #9Personalized Service!
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I think it's important to note that the term "overselling" is a controversial one, but should not be presumed negative. Ditto for "big companies" since a firm of any size is capable of either good or bad service. Still, I understand what you mean.
As to growing a company, one has to examine their own uniqueness and exploit it fully in order to develop a niche in the market.
Here are a couple of real-world examples:
- One guy was installing community scripts for friends and decided he wanted to start hosting websites. His niche is that he provides plans which focus on the Dolphin and phpFox communities and installation of the scripts.
- A former trucker with a desire to become a reseller opens a site to list semi's for sale. The many contacts from this venture provide him with webhosting leads.
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01-20-2008, 05:05 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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I am willing to put as much effort and time I need to get this company off the ground
I know a lot about E107 and could do support and all on it, would that be considered a good niche in the business? I see a lot for PHPNuke but not for E107 even though it's better.
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01-20-2008, 05:17 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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I agree very much with the direct contact, this is really working the best to get your name established, after that they will be the engine and telling about your great service. Once you have established a good name advertising might start to work better.
Just to add, overselling hosts do not per definition need to give bad support at all. There are also hosts which do not oversell and have bad support.
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01-20-2008, 05:37 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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Take a look at the comissions paid by SuperbHosting to affiliates to gain a new customer and you will find how much hard and expensive this industry is to a mom-and-pop shop succeed.
And I disagree "every big company used to be small". It is a romantic, old-fashioned view, the American Dream.Last edited by dotHostel; 01-20-2008 at 05:45 AM.
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01-20-2008, 05:44 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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Ya, true, are you saying though if I offer commission (high) then I would get more customers?
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01-20-2008, 06:17 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Good customer service. Fast response times to support requests. Fancy designs to look reliable. Lots of patience!
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01-20-2008, 06:19 AM #15WHT Addict
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01-20-2008, 06:27 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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01-20-2008, 06:37 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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I suggest you take a look at this thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=663828You will only find out how good a provider is when the going gets tough
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01-20-2008, 07:13 AM #19WHT Addict
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I do understand your point of view and agree that might work for some. But have you counted the number of companies that used the same strategy and have not succeed?
I would suggest invest the right way for your company. Do not over consume the resources you have in a short time. Be always checking out the environment and develop the right strategy(investment plan) for your company.
remember: profit > cost = successful business
and Good luck. I wish you the best.
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01-20-2008, 07:48 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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My point of view is shared hosting is not a good business anymore for new entrants. It is a commodity and requires economies of scale to a company succeed. In the US there is a mature market where you have high cost to gain customers and low profits due massive competition.
Last edited by dotHostel; 01-20-2008 at 07:54 AM.
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01-20-2008, 08:46 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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I think that it is extremely important to keep all the expenses at a very low level so you can invest in advertising. And since it is getting more and more expensive in this industry you can search for alternative ways to gain popularity. Working in partnership with bloggers, social networks, different community groups and etc.
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01-20-2008, 03:58 PM #22Junior Guru Wannabe
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And I disagree "every big company used to be small". It is a romantic, old-fashioned view, the American Dream.
Some of the most successful people started out with nothing a made something of themselves. Find your niche and perfect it and you'll be successful but if you reinvent the wheel, you'll roll along with the rest of the guys trying to make it.
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01-20-2008, 04:30 PM #23Newbie
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You might want to clear up the discrepancies on what you are offering for shared hosting. The package descriptions and features on the "shared hosting" page are different than those on the "shared comparison" page. That would give me second thoughts if I were customer. For example, on the opening page it claims that the basic package hosts 5 domains and on the comparison page it states that it is only 1 domain and 5 subdomains. This is one out of a number of examples. Consistency and attention to detail is important, especially with your package descriptions.
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01-20-2008, 04:46 PM #24Web Hosting Master
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Last edited by dotHostel; 01-20-2008 at 04:49 PM.
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01-20-2008, 04:48 PM #25Web Hosting Master
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