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    gigenet [[misunderstanding]]?

    I was tracking this child porn and bestiality forum, i sent complaint to them, attached evidence, Gigenet responded "Thanks for bringing this up, we will contact the client", then after a week the site is still running happly. does local FBI office take this kind of case if i report to them?
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    I think you should have alerted the proper authorities from the get-go, they should be able to help you, if not by starting an investigation, they should at least guide you in the right direction.

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    Heres a list of places to report it to:

    http://vachss.com/help_text/report_child_porn_intl.html

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    sent a report to National Center For Missing & Exploited Children a while ago, they don't respond

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    Perhaps they have not closed the site/server yet on request of the authorities while an investigation is ongoing. Maybe you should contact Gigenet again and ask them if they are doing anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Til View Post
    Perhaps they have not closed the site/server yet on request of the authorities while an investigation is ongoing. Maybe you should contact Gigenet again and ask them if they are doing anything about it.
    this is what usually happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyu View Post
    I was tracking this child porn and bestiality forum, i sent complaint to them, attached evidence, Gigenet responded "Thanks for bringing this up, we will contact the client", then after a week the site is still running happly. does local FBI office take this kind of case if i report to them?
    Before posting false information in a public forum maybe you should have contacted us concerning the status of your complaint. The fact is, this site is under investigation and we are handling it appropriately. The domain points to google but we have retained the content from the site and are working with authorities to locate the persons involved.
    Derek Raines
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    I had went off on a company one time (wholesale internet) for letting a botnet stay up for weeks after a complaint but I guess it turned out that there was some investigation and trap going on and to have terminated it would have decreased the chances of catching the person involved.

    Sounds like the same thing going on here, sometimes its frustrating when they tell you they will simply contact the client and let them know, especially if you are suspecting that the client is the one actually behind it. But there is always more then meets the eye i in these situations so you may have actually hindered any trap that may have been setup to catch the webmaster/client responsible for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyu View Post
    I was tracking this child porn and bestiality forum, i sent complaint to them, attached evidence, Gigenet responded "Thanks for bringing this up, we will contact the client", then after a week the site is still running happly. does local FBI office take this kind of case if i report to them?
    Quick question: Why do you care?

    IMO, most people reporting child porn, warez, spam, etc. do it because they're a competitor trying to shut down the competition (well, maybe not the spam part).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewhost View Post
    Quick question: Why do you care?

    IMO, most people reporting child porn, warez, spam, etc. do it because they're a competitor trying to shut down the competition (well, maybe not the spam part).
    Wow, that's harsh.
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    Quick question: Why do you care?
    Why do we buy food when we could just steal?
    Why do we help out people in need?
    Why do we care for our children?
    Why do we feed our pets?

    Humans are the only creatures on earth which have something called sympathy and can help out one another for the sake of advancing humanity as a whole. If you don't believe in that, you have much bigger problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyu View Post
    I was tracking this child porn and bestiality forum, i sent complaint to them, attached evidence, Gigenet responded "Thanks for bringing this up, we will contact the client", then after a week the site is still running happly. does local FBI office take this kind of case if i report to them?
    I work for a larger hosting company and I just want to tell you the statement you made here is quite libelous. Many times hosts work with the proper authorities (many times via legal order) and keep these kind of sites going to catch the people involved. Which people like yourself make hard because you go around screaming they support those activities and try to tarnish their reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyu View Post
    I was tracking this child porn and bestiality forum, i sent complaint to them, attached evidence, Gigenet responded "Thanks for bringing this up, we will contact the client", then after a week the site is still running happly. does local FBI office take this kind of case if i report to them?
    Apart from reporting it to the web host, you can submit a complaint to http://www.ic3.gov/

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    Humans are the only creatures on earth which have something called sympathy and can help out one another for the sake of advancing humanity as a whole.
    I wouldn't speak for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossH View Post
    I work for a larger hosting company and I just want to tell you the statement you made here is quite libelous.
    Are you also a judge, or even an attorney?

    Gigenet probably could have prevented this confusion, although obviously they didn't expect this to go public.
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    I do apologize to Gigenet if that site is still under investigation. That site moved from softlayer and then from burstnet, both companies have it shut down in 2 days, so i was wondering why took Gigenet so long to do that.

    ewhost, I care because I hate this site. Whoever is running the site have people promote it, one person went to a tech forum posted lots of kiddy pics and the link to that site, made me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitserve View Post
    Are you also a judge, or even an attorney?

    Gigenet probably could have prevented this confusion, although obviously they didn't expect this to go public.
    If they are working with a government agency to do more then just pull the site off until they find another server, then they shouldn't be talking about it here and neither should the original poster. This thread should be removed in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitserve View Post
    Are you also a judge, or even an attorney?

    Gigenet probably could have prevented this confusion, although obviously they didn't expect this to go public.
    No but I play one on WHT. Anyway it is simple common sense, if I go around saying XXX supports child porn I better have some darn good rock solid evidence as that company could come right back and sue me for damages to their reputation.

    It is not Gigenet's job to inform you of their abuse dealings, especially if there is government involvement.

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    Meyu simply said that the site was still up and was asking who else he should report it to. He didn't say that Gigenet supports child porn.

    Derek said that this was false, and said that maybe meyu should have contacted Gigenet before going public. We have two different stories. I'm leaning toward believing meyu that the site was still up the last time he checked.

    Gigenet maybe should have asked Meyu to contact them before going public. However, Meyu was under no obligation, and it doesn't seem like Gigenet asked. Gigenet probably could have prevented this going public by sharing at least some information as to the status with meyu.

    Doesn't seem all that professional for someone from Gigenet to blame meyu for Gigenet's lack of forsight.

    Seems rude for people to basically call meyu a kiddie porn site owner trying to get rid of the competition, or to try to scare him into thinking he did something illegal. Being rude actually is against the rules.
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    If law enforcement is involved they may not have been able to say anything. It is common that LE will request no discussion of the situation, no matter what the response is.
    So the person reporting the abuse will be ignored as requested by LEO's, and the content will remain online and they will install monitoring and tracking software on the server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitserve View Post
    Meyu simply said that the site was still up and was asking who else he should report it to. He didn't say that Gigenet supports ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewhost View Post
    Quick question: Why do you care?

    IMO, most people reporting child porn, warez, spam, etc. do it because they're a competitor trying to shut down the competition (well, maybe not the spam part).
    This might be a little true for standard issue porn, and warez, but not kiddie porn dude. Hahaha, what's wrong with you?

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    Preservation orders are very common. When actual crime is taking place on a network it is generally best to leave that customer undisrupted and let the authorities handle it per their operating procedures.

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