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01-17-2008, 12:35 AM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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What should I expect for $10 dollars a month?
Webhosting is a mess, we all know that. With everyone and their cousin trying to get in on the market you have services and prices spanning a huge range. You can get 500gb/5000gb for $7 here and 50mb/12gb there for the same price.
Some people are overselling diskspace and features (with decreased cost) and some are overselling support and reliability (with increased cost).
I've been with many hosts, I don't even remember all of them to be honest and I highly doubt all of them are even around. I'm currently with dreamhost, and that's the problem. Their recent billing issues didn't effect me, and I really like their honesty and full disclosure on everything. I like dreamhost, but I might not be staying with them for two reasons:
1. I do not need all that space/bandwidth.
2. I want to support a webhost who isn't overselling to that point.
I am a hobbyist on the internet, I love messing around with webpages and finding useful(useless) stuff to do with my space and bandwidth.
A part of me wants to mirror linux iso's on static html pages until my dreamhost bandwidth is used up, but the part of my brain that dictates what I actually do knows that is stupid.
So, ignoring all the rambling I've done so far, what can I expect from a webhost for 10 bucks a month? That's what I want to spend, and I am realizing that you get what you pay for stuff, so if I am paying 10 bucks a month, what do I get? What is reasonable and fair for that much?
In addition to that, can anyone reccomend a host that deserves my money and can offer a fair amount of diskspace and bandwidth?
Too long; didn't read: What can I get for 10 bucks a month and where can I get that from?what is all this now?
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01-17-2008, 12:38 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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01-17-2008, 12:41 AM #3Junior Guru Wannabe
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Well I can agree with you in terms of companies not telling you the truth. Been there done that. <<snipped>>
Of the ones I was with back in the day were overselling, never seen one who isnt yet (although there "may" be a few no overselling companies now).
$10 a month - I'd say 10gb space, 30-40gb bandwidth. You get what you pay for in the end.Last edited by MikeWalczak; 01-17-2008 at 04:18 PM. Reason: Removed reference to his host.
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01-17-2008, 12:43 AM #4Eternal Member
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$10 a month - I'd say 10gb space, 30-40gb bandwidth. You get what you pay for in the end.
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01-17-2008, 12:47 AM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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Yeah, the bandwidth could be less I suppose. However $1 per gb space is fine.
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01-17-2008, 12:48 AM #6WHT Addict
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01-17-2008, 12:53 AM #7Eternal Member
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01-17-2008, 01:05 AM #9Retired Moderator
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$1 per GB of space and $0.25 per GB of transfer?
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01-17-2008, 01:10 AM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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01-17-2008, 01:14 AM #11Junior Guru Wannabe
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Oops, no I mean $10 include both space and bandwidth i specified earlier. That's what I would offer if I was asked for a custom plan.
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01-17-2008, 01:18 AM #12Eternal Member
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01-17-2008, 01:20 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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What are you looking for in a web host? I'm guessing that unless your site is really popular or needs a custom config, that you should be able to find it for $10/month.
So my question is, what do you expect from a web host for $10/month?-Mark Adams
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01-17-2008, 01:30 AM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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That is what I am asking you! The line in the sand between what webhosts hate about oversellers and what a customer can reasonablely get for their money is not drawn.
It's easy for everyone to say that the 100gb/1000gb (or more in most cases) plans that cost >$10 is blatant overselling and therefore unreliable and doomed to fail, but what about the flipside of the coin? What should we be getting for that?
It's my understanding that hosts sell accounts on 2 very basic things. Features per price and reputation. If a host is offering lots of features for little money people can overlook the reputation, people offering fewer features for more money can because they have a great reputation.
The discussion I am trying to bring up is, what is the middle ground there? Just anybody who isn't overselling or overcharging?what is all this now?
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01-17-2008, 02:10 AM #15Retired Moderator
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Congratulations for seeing through the hype and BS that is hosting marketing today. $10 will get you the smallest account at several hosts who aren't [obviously, grossly] overselling and enjoy great reputations here. And the fact that it's their smallest account is largely irrelevant when even that is plenty big enough for several average-sized websites.
My vote goes to Medialayer - $10 for a small share of their top-grade equipment and expertise represents exceptional value for money.Chris
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01-17-2008, 02:31 AM #16Disabled
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I would probably pay $10 a month for 2GB Space and 50 GB Bandwidth
ALTHOUGH The fact of the matter is a reliable host is priceless, would you rather pay $10 for an unreliable host offering the Queen's ankle bracelett or pay $20 for a reliable host offering the President's cup lol
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01-17-2008, 02:42 AM #17Web Hosting Master
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Unless you're using clusters, one can put max 250 customers on a decent powered server and keep it at 75% usage at peak times.
One can probably oversell the space and bandwidth, as most customers won't use 10% of their 1/250th alloted space. I'd guess one could oversell the space and bandwidth by a factor of three without even coming close to running into problems.
Considering your average 250GB drive (less for SCSI) and 3000GB bandwidth alloted to a server, you're looking at 3GB of disk space and 36GB of traffic per account max. Anything over this is kind of unbelievable, IMHO. This is what you should be getting, regardless of the price.
The price you're paying is going to affect what the host can afford to spend on everything else.
Factor in wages and benefits to not only answer the phones but plan and maintain and prepare for disaster, plus $12/sq. foot for office space, and it doesn't work out charging $3.99 month and not falling short somewhere or going bankrupt.Last edited by bitserve; 01-17-2008 at 02:48 AM.
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01-17-2008, 03:02 AM #19Greece
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1gb of disk and 50gb of monthly transfer looks fair.
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01-17-2008, 03:09 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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lol nouptime.com gave me a great chuckle I must admit.
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01-17-2008, 04:18 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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That's backwards. $1 per GB of bandwidth, sure. Bandwidth is cheap (though I guess that depends on if your host is using 10, 100, or 1000 Mbps uplinks). Disk space would be better at about $10 per GB (or a penny per MB). Then again, that depends on the hard drives and their configuration (e.g. 15k RPM RAID5).
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01-17-2008, 05:30 AM #22WHT Addict
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You can get a lot of space and bandwidth. The difference is haw much cpu can you use? And haw reliable the hosting company is. There are overselling hosts that balance efficiently the accounts on the server, so you can use all you get with no problem, and there are expensive hosts that will kick you for using too much cpu even tho they say there will be no problem. It's all depends on the people behind the company, and not the resources/price.
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01-17-2008, 12:46 PM #24Webhosting Professional
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My cousin left the industry, I promise!! Sorry couldn't resist that one
On a serious note, $10 is a reasonable budget, its good to see someone on WHT who is not looking for a massively oversold host. For $10 you could safely find a host which:
- Delivers about 24/7 support
- More than 99.5% uptime
- Both *NIX and Windows would be easily available in this price range
- All the usual goodies like PHP, MYSQL etc
- And a fairly reputable company at the same time
It would be reasonable to expect about 2+ Gigs of (non oversold) space and about 50+ Gigs of bandwidth.
Good luck with your searchLast edited by Asher S; 01-17-2008 at 12:47 PM. Reason: Typo
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01-17-2008, 03:14 PM #25Junior Guru Wannabe
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Good luck. Hosting is, as you said, as mess right now. With everyone overselling, it makes the few that don't look way over-priced (to the novice).
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