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  1. #1

    Are German connections better than Netherlands?

    My new server in Netherlands keeps getting timeouts....

    I ping it and it intermittently has packet loss. Now being in Hong Kong, I thought may be it could be me only.

    So I ping my provider:

    Code:
    Pinging dacefa.com [85.12.25.254] with 32 bytes of data:
    
    Reply from 85.12.25.254: bytes=32 time=351ms TTL=48
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 85.12.25.254: bytes=32 time=344ms TTL=48
    Reply from 85.12.25.254: bytes=32 time=334ms TTL=48
    
    Ping statistics for 85.12.25.254:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 334ms, Maximum = 351ms, Average = 343ms

    My Indian tech said he gets 90%+ packet loss on a ping and tracert.

    So I went to my US server and guess what? 54% packet loss!

    So I thought maybe it could be my new provider, so I decided to ping neighbouring company leaseweb.com....

    Code:
    Pinging leaseweb.com [83.149.80.111] with 32 bytes of data:
    
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 83.149.80.111: bytes=32 time=332ms TTL=52
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 83.149.80.111: bytes=32 time=331ms TTL=52
    
    Ping statistics for 83.149.80.111:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 331ms, Maximum = 332ms, Average = 331ms

    I can't run a highly demanding site like this.... Are German connections more reliable?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    It must be something on the way (try traceroute). I don't get any packet loss to either of them.
    ...comming soon?

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    It isnt an issue of Germany vs the Netherlands, it is an issue of your data centers connection to their upstream provider - Cogent.

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    LA, Dallas, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, did traceroute & pingtests amongst the servers and none of them had packet loss.
    -LA -> Dallas, Amsterdam, Frankfurt
    -Dallas -> LA, Amsterdam, Frankfurt
    -Amsterdam -> Frankfurt, Dallas, LA
    -Frankfurt -> Amsterdam, Dallas, LA

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    I have servers in several countries and Nagios monitoring stations in Nuremberg, Chicago and Singapore (QALA). Virtually there is no difference regarding hosting in Frankfurt, London, or Amsterdam.

    Just now the RTAs are:
    Singapore -> Amsterdam RTA = 350.68 ms
    Singapore -> Frankfurt RTA = 356.75 ms
    Singapore -> London RTA = 347.47 ms
    Singapore -> Moscow RTA = 325.72 m
    Singapore -> Chicago RTA = 256.20 ms Packet loss = 16%,

    Chicago -> Amsterdam RTA = 101.06 ms
    Chicago -> Frankfurt RTA = 110.05 ms
    Chicago -> London RTA = 96.03 ms
    Chicago -> Moscow RTA = 161.56 ms
    Chicago -> Nuremberg RTA = 119.93 ms
    Nuremberg -> Moscow RTA = 47.12 ms
    Chicago -> Singapore RTA = 257.16 ms
    Last edited by dotHostel; 12-23-2007 at 07:29 PM.

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    Please note the times above are between top-notch data centers / premium bandwidth. The end user connecting via ADSL/Cable/Dial up should expect greater latency and eventual packet loss.

  7. #7
    Using my work internet, I still get packet drops and slow response times.

    Oh well, I'm sure a european server is good for Europeans but not so good for Asians and Americans.

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    An European server is fine for EU and US. Asia is always troublesome bandwidth wise, and I am pretty sure that is where your problems are. Especially if you are on Cogent bandwidth. (No offense to Cogent, but they are not the Strongest for Asia<>US)
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